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  • RedSceptile
    MVP
    • Jun 2011
    • 3680

    #5386
    Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

    Kevin Love's contract jeeze that's just highway robbery.

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    • Drewski
      Basketball Reasons
      • Jun 2011
      • 3783

      #5387
      Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
      Props to Kevin Love and the TWolves.

      Also rumors of the Wolves shopping Beasley. Might as well get something while you can.

      He can score. But his baggage is heavy.
      I could see the Lakers having interest.

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      • Kashanova
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2003
        • 12695

        #5388
        Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

        Originally posted by Drewski
        I could see the Lakers having interest.

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        the lakers are apprantely in the running for any all star player no matter how over the cap they are lol

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        • da ThRONe
          Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
          • Mar 2009
          • 8528

          #5389
          Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

          The K-Love thing isn't that big of a deal. Most players sign the 1st extension. It's the third deal that most of the players are leaving on. Paul, James, Anthony and Howard all signed extensions with their originally teams see how that worked out(and in Howard's case going to workout).
          You looking at the Chair MAN!

          Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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          • PrettyT11
            MVP
            • Jul 2008
            • 3220

            #5390
            Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

            No it's a big deal because of the amount of money the deal is worth. 60 million is steal. He could have demanded more than that. The previous guy we was talking about is from the same draft class and is wanting 80 to 95 million. That is a huge difference and can be the difference in how they are able to build their teams.

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            • RedSceptile
              MVP
              • Jun 2011
              • 3680

              #5391
              Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

              Originally posted by PrettyT11
              No it's a big deal because of the amount of money the deal is worth. 60 million is steal. He could have demanded more than that. The previous guy we was talking about is from the same draft class and is wanting 80 to 95 million. That is a huge difference and can be the difference in how they are able to build their teams.
              Nah the Derrick Rose rule is why Westbrook's extension can be so high.

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              • Drewski
                Basketball Reasons
                • Jun 2011
                • 3783

                #5392
                Originally posted by Kashanova
                the lakers are apprantely in the running for any all star player no matter how over the cap they are lol
                Right because that's how trades work when they trade salaries, not as if Beasley is added on top for our salary swappage.

                Cool though bro. I know you don't like the Lakers but make valid points.

                And I didn't say the were in the running. Lakers could definitely use a scorer like Beasley if Minnesota is trying to dump him.

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                • WTF
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 20274

                  #5393
                  Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                  Who could the Lakers package in order to get Beasley? The Wolves won't take back a package of bums. Maybe some expirings? Not sure what the Lakers have to offer in the same salary range of Super Cool Bease.
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                  • Drewski
                    Basketball Reasons
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 3783

                    #5394
                    Lol never ever said they were in the running just that we could use a scoring presence.

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                    • PrettyT11
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 3220

                      #5395
                      Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                      Originally posted by RedSceptile
                      Nah the Derrick Rose rule is why Westbrook's extension can be so high.
                      I know that. Love would still be leaving money on the table if he took that deal. That was the point of what I was saying. The max Love could get is 5 years 84 million. That's the same amount the report is saying Westbrook wants.

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                      • Kully
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 3178

                        #5396
                        Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                        Westbrook doesn't qualify yet for the Rose rule, and if he does this year he couldn't get it anyway if Durant's extension counts as a use of the rule... only two Rose rule players per team, but only one of those players can be drafted by that team. The other has to be traded for.

                        There's also a new rule where you can have a 'designated player' who can get a 5 year extension, but I don't know how that works. All I know is that you can only have one designated player on a squad.

                        As for the Wolves/Lakers, I don't think they could be good trade partners at all. Beasley would work well on the Lakers bench, but the needs for the Wolves (a starting C, a starting SG or both) can't be fulfilled by the Lakers. Unless the Wolves want to be hosed.
                        Last edited by Kully; 01-18-2012, 10:48 PM.

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                        • WTF
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 20274

                          #5397
                          Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                          Originally posted by Drewski
                          Lol never ever said they were in the running just that we could use a scoring presence.

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                          Oh, I know. I'm genuinely interested in it though. Just wondering what a trade by the Lakers may look like.

                          Maybe an EBanks, Barnes and part of the trade exception?
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                          • PrettyT11
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 3220

                            #5398
                            Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                            Originally posted by Kully
                            Westbrook doesn't qualify yet for the Rose rule, and if he does this year he couldn't get it anyway if Durant's extension counts as a use of the rule... only two Rose rule players per team, but only one of those players can be drafted by that team. The other has to be traded for.

                            There's also a new rule where you can have a 'designated player' who can get a 5 year extension, but I don't know how that works. All I know is that you can only have one designated player on a squad..
                            Where did you see this at?? I haven't seen anything saying there is only two guys per team that can qualify for the rule. The rule you are talking about in the second paragraph is the "Rose rule" from everything I have seen.

                            As far as Westbrook goes everything I have seen says he would qualify for the rule if he makes an all NBA team. Word is that is why the contract talks are at the stand still they are at now. I don't think Durant's deal has anything to do with Westbrook qualifying or not because he wasn't originally apart of the rule. The NBA made an exception for Durant to retroactively qualify.

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                            • WTF
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 20274

                              #5399
                              Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                              Edit that last thought, I forgot that with the trade exception, LA can just take in an additional $$$....
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                              • Kully
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 3178

                                #5400
                                Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                                Originally posted by PrettyT11
                                Where did you see this at?? I haven't seen anything saying there is only two guys per team that can qualify for the rule.
                                Can the Derrick Rose Extension Rule be applied to more than one player on the same team?

                                Larry Coon
                                One player they drafted, and one player they acquired through trade.



                                So Westbrook isn't eligible if Durant's extension counts as a Rose rule extension since they were both drafted by Seattle/OKC.

                                About the designated player extension, all the info I read about it makes it sound like the Rose rule but without the stipulations (the player doesn't have to be a two time all-star/two time all nba/MVP to get the designated player label). I'm still unsure about that one.

                                Edit: got my answer it seems -
                                yeah, its two different things. the designated player extension rule is related more to the number of yrs on a contract extension, where as the derrick rose rule is related to the maximum salary for each of those yrs.
                                Originally posted by WTF
                                Oh, I know. I'm genuinely interested in it though. Just wondering what a trade by the Lakers may look like.

                                Maybe an EBanks, Barnes and part of the trade exception?
                                Ehh, even with Beasley's crappy play this year that's a bad trade for Minny. Doesn't help their needs at all.
                                Last edited by Kully; 01-18-2012, 11:29 PM.

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