2012 NBA Draft Discussion

[Eman5805]

Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

That whole body frame issue is so overrated nowadays it's not even funny.

Especially in today's NBA. Length, mobility, and skill seem to trump size and power now. I only posted those picks just for comparison's sake.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I agree if this was 12-13 years ago, then his size would definitely be a problem. But as long as you have those 3 things you mentioned, especially as a big, then you'll be OK.

I do want to know how in the world did this dude shoot up 8 inches in 2 years though. I wanna know WTF his Parents were feeding this dude for him to shoot up so damn quick.

[Dice]

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Kevin McHale was barely 220. But he's regarded as one of the greatest PF of all time.

[da ThRONe]

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Chris Bosh?

You're really reaching on this and I don't understand how his "slender frame" keeps him from being a top 5 prospect in your eyes. IMO it seems like that was just for shock value more than anything.

Chris Bosh isn't that much bigger than Anthony but he has the same type of body frame and he seems to be doing well for himself.

Chris Bosh is bigger than Anthony Davis by a wide margin.

Bosh

http://www.clutchfans.net/images/chris_bosh3.jpg

Davis
http://swishscout.com/wp-content/upl...Hl-250x300.jpg

Not to mention Bosh is way more skilled than Davis.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Tyson Chandler was 224 when he came in the league in 2001 as a PF/C and now is only 235 and is one of the best defensive players in the league.

[da ThRONe]

Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

Especially in today's NBA. Length, mobility, and skill seem to trump size and power now. I only posted those picks just for comparison's sake.

On the primeter this is true, but not in the paint. Which is where Davis skillset will require him to play.

We have way more productive undersized powerful 4's in the league than productive frail, non-skilled, and athletic 4's right now.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Chris Bosh is bigger than Anthony Davis by a wide margin.

Bosh

http://www.clutchfans.net/images/chris_bosh3.jpg

Davis
http://swishscout.com/wp-content/upl...Hl-250x300.jpg

Not to mention Bosh is way more skilled than Davis.

Chris Bosh Rookie Year picture(03)


Anthony Davis Freshman Picture(2011)


There really isn't that much of difference in them as far as their size goes when they entered the NBA. But you're making it seem like Davis will never be able to grow into his weight.

[da ThRONe]

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Everybody keeps bringing up weight. Weight gives you an idea of a guys build, but it's not the end all be all. Every human doesn't carry their weight the same. You can have two guys be the same weight and height and one be way more powerful and solid than the other.

[SidVish]

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I think I've entered the NFL Combine thread. Gaining weight will be the least of his worries. The kid is only 19 years old and will grow into his frame.

I think the guy can be a HOFer. We'll see how his offensive game develops but the tools are all there.

[da ThRONe]

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Chris Bosh Rookie Year picture(03)


Anthony Davis Freshman Picture(2011)


There really isn't that much of difference in them as far as their size goes when they entered the NBA. But you're making it seem like Davis will never be able to grow into his weight.

Ofcourse he can grow. I'm saying he won't be able to do so and keep the motor, quick leaping ability, and timing. He's not skilled like Bosh I don't think he'll get as skilled as Bosh or Garnett. His game will be predicated on athletism, unlike Bosh or Garnett. Not saying he won't have an impact in the league, but it won't be frachise changer. Just solid defender a la Chandler or Camby. If that's good enough so be it, but that's not who I want with the 1st overall pick.

[BlueNGold]

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Chris Bosh is bigger than Anthony Davis by a wide margin.

Bosh

http://www.clutchfans.net/images/chris_bosh3.jpg

Davis
http://swishscout.com/wp-content/upl...Hl-250x300.jpg

Not to mention Bosh is way more skilled than Davis.

Dude, you're posting a picture of Bosh when he was a good 4-5 years into his career as a Raptor (AND after the specific off-season he decided to bulk up to improve his game) and comparing it to a 19 year old coming out of college.

Come on now.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I'm assuming you didn't watch much of Bosh or Garnett's games when they first came into the league because the skill they had then to the skills they have now are leaps and bounds different than when they entered the league.

You're saying basically saying that the type of skills Davis has and will bring into the league won't improve because of his frame/skills and isn't worth a top 5 pick.

[Chrisksaint]

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Wasn't Davis recruited as a SF then he grew another 3 inches? For a young big men he had some solid post moves, especially that little hook thing

[SidVish]

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Wasn't Davis recruited as a SF then he grew another 3 inches? For a young big men he had some solid post moves, especially that little hook thing

He played point guard in high school before the growth spurt.

[da ThRONe]

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I'm assuming you didn't watch much of Bosh or Garnett's games when they first came into the league because the skill they had then to the skills they have now are leaps and bounds different than when they entered the league.

You're saying basically saying that the type of skills Davis has and will bring into the league won't improve because of his frame/skills and isn't worth a top 5 pick.

I have watch videos of both and IMO I saw a base for improvement I don't see in Davis. They weren't as affective, but didn't look awkward. Davis looks awkward and every other player I've seen that post play looked awkward and wasn't already affective never made major improvements not one. Maybe Davis will be the first, however I wouldn't bank on it.