Chris Broussards Sources tell me Trade Rumors and Discussion Thread

[DukeC]

Re: Chris Broussards Sources tell me Trade Rumors and Discussion Thread

I would be extremely surprised. Honestly with the way things are going it would probably be a smart move, a package of Dirk, Marion and Carter, or trading them to different places would bring back a lot of talent, but the attitude around the Mavs organization is not to have to do that kind of rebuilding, so I would be pretty surprised if it happened.

The Mavs are in a different situation than the Celtics. Rondo is the leader of that team with veterans around him, Dirk is still the leader of the Mavs.

Now that Rondo is gone yes, but they are still in pretty similar situations. The Mavs remind me of the Raptors really. They have a good team...but their just missing something. That intangible. They've both lost a lot of close games.

On the other hand Paul Pierce can still contribute just like Dirk and Timmy can still contribute. Their glory days (where they could still use athleticism) are past and they've all lost a step (or several).

Paul Pierce isn't so much washed up as just diminished. Also, I still reiterate that Paul Pierce is going to retire a Celtic. You don't ship anyone off who stayed with you through the terrible years when he could've bolted to a better a team. Hell, without Pierce's loyalty the big three would have never been possible in the first place. He's helped them out long term so biting the bullet short term (IE letting him play out his contract and retire) isn't entirely unreasonable. That's all I'm saying.

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Re: Chris Broussards Sources tell me Trade Rumors and Discussion Thread

Has anyone heard any rumblings anywhere lately besides the obvious big name garbage the media always throws out there for attention

[d11king]

Re: Chris Broussards Sources tell me Trade Rumors and Discussion Thread

Paul Pierce isn't so much washed up as just diminished. Also, I still reiterate that Paul Pierce is going to retire a Celtic. You don't ship anyone off who stayed with you through the terrible years when he could've bolted to a better a team. Hell, without Pierce's loyalty the big three would have never been possible in the first place. He's helped them out long term so biting the bullet short term (IE letting him play out his contract and retire) isn't entirely unreasonable. That's all I'm saying.

I agree win this 1000% and who knows maybe he come back for less money, either way, he should be a lifetime Celtic, none of this Joe Montana/Chiefs, Jerry Rice/Raiders crap. If they end up trading him for peanuts, my hate for this organization will reach super-saiyan.

[BlueNGold]

Re: Chris Broussards Sources tell me Trade Rumors and Discussion Thread

I'd like to think the Celtics won't trade Paul Pierce. He didn't bail on them when times were tough and they owe it to him to let him go out his way.

[The 24th Letter]

Which is why I keep bringing up that it isn't like the NFL.

Is Timmy getting traded anytime soon 24th?

No way...plus he has a no trade clause...

[DukeC]

Re: Chris Broussards Sources tell me Trade Rumors and Discussion Thread

No way...plus he has a no trade clause...

Let's operate under the assumption that he didn't have a no trade clause. Would he be traded then (because he's still playing pretty well for his age and limited minutes)? Would you advocate for him to be traded?

Or would you rather him to be a lifetime Spur?

What about Parker? Would you advocate for him to be traded?

On a different note, this is why I don't get why the Boston fans here are advocating for Pierce to get traded. After everything he's done? When he was the only hope spot during the terrible years of Celtic rebuilding? Or did you only become a fan of the team after the Big Three was assembled?

Why get mad at Ray Allen for going to the Heat and not willing to show "loyalty" when in the same season Rondo gets hurt you're willing to throw Paul Pierce under the bus and want him immediately traded? For what? Nothing? The **** does this accomplish in the long term? The man is still averaging 19, 6, and 4. He's playing better than who a lot of people are supposing to replace him (Rudy Gay).

And you're willing to trash him for NOTHING (This is a ****ty draft coming up)?

I'm going to laugh when Rondo leaves if you guys do trade Pierce (Rondo only has 3 years on his contract left, pretty much 1 and a half now because of the injury). I'm going to laugh long and hard.

[aussieicon91]

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Wow if the Lakers keep Pau Gasol & Dwight Howard next season then they'll be 30mil over the luxery tax and will have to pay an additional 85mil to the league next season.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: Chris Broussards Sources tell me Trade Rumors and Discussion Thread

Boston is in a tough position because they're not in a spot where they NEED to blow it up right away but they're also not in a spot where they are 1 or 2 moves away from making another playoff run like they had last year.

They're almost kind've "stuck" in a way.

[wwharton]

Re: Chris Broussards Sources tell me Trade Rumors and Discussion Thread

Let's operate under the assumption that he didn't have a no trade clause. Would he be traded then (because he's still playing pretty well for his age and limited minutes)? Would you advocate for him to be traded?

Or would you rather him to be a lifetime Spur?

What about Parker? Would you advocate for him to be traded?

On a different note, this is why I don't get why the Boston fans here are advocating for Pierce to get traded. After everything he's done? When he was the only hope spot during the terrible years of Celtic rebuilding? Or did you only become a fan of the team after the Big Three was assembled?

Why get mad at Ray Allen for going to the Heat and not willing to show "loyalty" when in the same season Rondo gets hurt you're willing to throw Paul Pierce under the bus and want him immediately traded? For what? Nothing? The **** does this accomplish in the long term? The man is still averaging 19, 6, and 4. He's playing better than who a lot of people are supposing to replace him (Rudy Gay).

And you're willing to trash him for NOTHING (This is a ****ty draft coming up)?

I'm going to laugh when Rondo leaves if you guys do trade Pierce (Rondo only has 3 years on his contract left, pretty much 1 and a half now because of the injury). I'm going to laugh long and hard.

Going forward, can you make the point without jumping on the fans of other teams (any team in question)? It's an interesting discussion, but as presented, can easily turn into an argument... or people just ignoring it bc it seems like an attack bc you know what team they follow.

I do think it'd be interesting to see what some think is the difference btwn Allen leaving and trading Pierce. Is it bc Allen (technically) decided to leave on his own? I also think it's interesting to see where the line is drawn between potentially sacrificing the future of a franchise and honoring a loyal star of the team. I don't think it should be in comparison to anything or related directly to the Celtics situation with Rondo... just interesting to hear different point of views on those things you brought up.

[DukeC]

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Going forward, can you make the point without jumping on the fans of other teams (any team in question)? It's an interesting discussion, but as presented, can easily turn into an argument... or people just ignoring it bc it seems like an attack bc you know what team they follow.

I do think it'd be interesting to see what some think is the difference btwn Allen leaving and trading Pierce. Is it bc Allen (technically) decided to leave on his own? I also think it's interesting to see where the line is drawn between potentially sacrificing the future of a franchise and honoring a loyal star of the team. I don't think it should be in comparison to anything or related directly to the Celtics situation with Rondo... just interesting to hear different point of views on those things you brought up.

Yeah, it was more of a rant in general (With the Boston thing being the trigger admittedly). The Paul Pierce thing being the prominent example as of now. I hold the same feelings in all sports.

As to the whole sacrificing the future of the franchise thing...what exactly are they sacrificing again? Anything they do is not going to be with equal value in mind (and this upcoming draft is really weak) and they are setting (IMO) a terrible precedent if they go through with it (trading Pierce that is). What does that say to Rondo? Even if I give you my all you won't respect me enough to be able to retire a Celtic?

Now as to other sports, I think this can be done in baseball no problem. They draft they do is so weird (with the drafting of kids straight out of highschool) and the farm system they employ they can afford to let a local star player play until he retires because said draftee is developing in Triple A.

As for football, they're FEW positions irreplaceable in the NFL. QB is one. OL is the other. Prohibiting the extreme situations (like Manning last year, that and the doubt over the injury he sustained) I think a lot of teams would just let their star QB play until he retires while grooming said backup behind him.

I think Offense Line is one of those positions you can't get rid of also. Alot of it has to do with experience and synergy and replacing that on a whim is the height of idiocy IMO.

I don't know a lot about Hockey so I can't really speak on that. It seems like they let their star players retire also.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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You'd be surprised as to how many O-Lineman are replaced in the league, before the season and even during the season.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: Chris Broussards Sources tell me Trade Rumors and Discussion Thread

I said that before the season even started my dude.

Not halfway through with our bench over achieving and Boozer playing the best he ever has.

Good try.

Don't matter when you said it, you said it. You even said they don't need to go into this season with this team competing and winning and fooling them into thinking they had a chance to win and losing in the playoffs anyway. Basically them doing exactly what they're doing. No need to throw in the 'nice try' line, I'm not being confrontational with you about it. Just saying, kinda hard for you make that point to C's fans and you don't follow it with your own team.

EDIT: You said it end of November by the way. Wee bit off the mark of 'before the season even started.'

[DukeC]

Re: Chris Broussards Sources tell me Trade Rumors and Discussion Thread

You'd be surprised as to how many O-Lineman are replaced in the league, before the season and even during the season.

Ah. I guess I should have specified that i didn't mean the rank and file guys. I mean guys like Jeff Saturday, Johnathon Odgen, those type of guys.

[Paul Pierce_OS]

Re: Chris Broussards Sources tell me Trade Rumors and Discussion Thread

I'd like to think the Celtics won't trade Paul Pierce. He didn't bail on them when times were tough and they owe it to him to let him go out his way.

They were on the verge of trading him last year and oh so close to trading Ray as well. The Celtics don't owe him anything, I love Paul but the more time we spend believing in this core that isn't taking us anywhere the more we hinder our chances of trading him for something before he retires.

[CelticPride]

Re: Chris Broussards Sources tell me Trade Rumors and Discussion Thread

Let's operate under the assumption that he didn't have a no trade clause. Would he be traded then (because he's still playing pretty well for his age and limited minutes)? Would you advocate for him to be traded?

Or would you rather him to be a lifetime Spur?

What about Parker? Would you advocate for him to be traded?

On a different note, this is why I don't get why the Boston fans here are advocating for Pierce to get traded. After everything he's done? When he was the only hope spot during the terrible years of Celtic rebuilding? Or did you only become a fan of the team after the Big Three was assembled?

Why get mad at Ray Allen for going to the Heat and not willing to show "loyalty" when in the same season Rondo gets hurt you're willing to throw Paul Pierce under the bus and want him immediately traded? For what? Nothing? The **** does this accomplish in the long term? The man is still averaging 19, 6, and 4. He's playing better than who a lot of people are supposing to replace him (Rudy Gay).

And you're willing to trash him for NOTHING (This is a ****ty draft coming up)?

I'm going to laugh when Rondo leaves if you guys do trade Pierce (Rondo only has 3 years on his contract left, pretty much 1 and a half now because of the injury). I'm going to laugh long and hard.

Not all fans are like this, jerk. Rondo isn't going to leave, I know for a fact he loves being a Celtic. He likes being the alpha male and he is. Besides where would he go? He hates basically every team because they have beaten the Celtics before. Just because its a long post doesn't mean that its true, please remember that next time you say Boston fans don't appreciate Paul Pierce or something like that. I have never wanted him to be traded and neither do any of my friends.