2014 Draft Discussion

[The__Answ3r_i3]

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You said if he's healthy he's going to be the best player in this class no doubt. He can stay healthy and just not develop and a bunch of other players could still be better.
He's just not the surefire star people think he'll be.

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Because he is nba ready and has alot of room to grow still, this guy improved during the course of the year in college what makes you think he won't in the nba where he will have way more time to just focus on basketball.

[redsrule]

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Because he is nba ready and has alot of room to grow still, this guy improved during the course of the year in college what makes you think he won't in the nba where he will have way more time to just focus on basketball.

He's really not that NBA ready. He has a lot of potential, but needs a ton of work on his offensive game. He has no move that he is “great" at. He needs to learn how to stay on the floor and play constant defense without fouling.
Where did I say he wouldn't improve? I said it was a possibility. There are a bunch of guys every year that don't improve once they get into the NBA.

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[redsrule]

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Speaking of busts, who do you guys think will be steals?
I think Kyle Anderson was a perfect fit for the Spurs, and that Cleanthony Early will end up being a rotation guy for a lot of years.

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[The__Answ3r_i3]

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He's really not that NBA ready. He has a lot of potential, but needs a ton of work on his offensive game. He has no move that he is “great" at. He needs to learn how to stay on the floor and play constant defense without fouling.
Where did I say he wouldn't improve? I said it was a possibility. There are a bunch of guys every year that don't improve once they get into the NBA.

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Id say his offensive game is quite impressive for a guy his age compared to the big men that were picked in the lottery the last 3 years.

[RocketTMac1]

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Lmao.. no way...

How you screw up the #1 picks name is beyond me. Plus you don't have his jersey when he needs it. Bad omen for the kid already lol

[JODYE]

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Randle had really low block & steal numbers at Kentucky. Does that mean he is not athletic? McDermott isn't going to be dunking on people like Wiggins but his athleticism isn't so bad where he will be in a lot is trouble.

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I think you might be looking at the wrong numbers. Block and steal percentage, not actual Blocks per game. There is a difference.

And your comment ignored the second part of my post, where you actually have to assess the players physical tools/context of role to really have it translate to something you can use to assess a player.

Randle has the strength to offer resistance in the post, and he's only going to get bigger and stronger. So while yes, as a PF, his Block percentage is also lower than what you would like, he makes up for it with defense on the ball, and forcing guys out. Something McDermott couldn't and won't do at any level. Unfortunately at this point, this is all we have to assess him defensively, because he was featured almost exclusively at the 4. However, when he was on the perimeter, and especially in pick and roll situations, he didn't look good, even when he put himself in good position.

Luckily he goes to a team with the best team defense in the league.

You can spew out all these great offensive stats you want (Plenty of players before had great offensive numbers and didn't do anything in the league) but what is being ignored is how he got them. He has a post game, but with his lack of strength, he won't be nearly as effective, and most of his points (I believe 31%) came from the line, mostly from that position, where he won't be playing.

I've said my piece on him. I'd imagine most guys like him because he is a high character guy, and people want him to succeed (as do I), but I just don't see it happening and knowing Thibs, guy probably won't play anything but garbage minutes his first year anyway.

But hell, I hope I eat a huge plate of crow and he turns into a productive rotation player, but I doubt it.

[PhantomPain]

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He's 6'10 247 with a 38-inch vert and possibly the strongest player in the draft.

I don't see how no one takes a flier based on physical gifts alone.


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I agree Young should have been drafted, but he isn't 6'10"...closer to 6'8"

[ThreeKing]

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I really hope you aren't serious with this.

And people rip on me for my opinion.

Tearing up a garbage conference with 'meh' athletes versus the freak athletes in the NBA, is a damn night-and-day difference.

Can't believe people are defending Viktor Khryapa 2.0. SMH

I would've kept both picks, but that's just me.

[ex carrabba fan]

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I don't think keeping Hairston in Carolina was a good idea tbh. I always pegged him as a steal in the sense of a Tim Hardaway Jr.. I think going back to Carolina might keep him around some negative things... I would have loved to see him go to the Thunder, Grizzlies or Heat. Perfect fits IMO

Rodney Hood as well seems to be a smooth operator. To get him in the 20's isn't too bad I could see him being a swingman spark off the bench. I also think the Thunder, Grizzlies or Heat would have been a nice fit. Especially as a backup for Durant.

[JODYE]

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And people rip on me for my opinion.

Tearing up a garbage conference with 'meh' athletes versus the freak athletes in the NBA, is a damn night-and-day difference.

Can't believe people are defending Viktor Khryapa 2.0. SMH

I would've kept both picks, but that's just me.

To be fair, from a financial standpoint, they couldn't. Not if they are serious about Melo. Although there were other options I would have preferred.

One being taking advantage of teams wanting to get in this draft and getting future first rounders.

[DJ_Solis]

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Speaking of busts, who do you guys think will be steals?
I think Kyle Anderson was a perfect fit for the Spurs, and that Cleanthony Early will end up being a rotation guy for a lot of years.

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I think those were both good picks later in the draft. I also like KJ McDaniels to the Sixers and Dinwiddie to the Pistons.


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[NDAlum]

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Not to kill your excitement about Gee, but he had plenty of time to shine in Cleveland as we haven't had a good SF and he actually got worse.Don't get your hopes up about him. Besides, his contract is not guaranteed so Charlotte might just cut him and get cap space. You're better of with Jeffrey Taylor and mkg

Yea it looks like they are just gonna cut him and free up cap space to pursue a big FA. Jordan said they are going big this year and I hope they get a starter over MKG

[JazzMan]

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Speaking of busts, who do you guys think will be steals?
I think Kyle Anderson was a perfect fit for the Spurs, and that Cleanthony Early will end up being a rotation guy for a lot of years.

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I think Rodney Hood has potential to be a solid backup or even starter for us down the road if we need him to be.

[AC]

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Spencer Denwiddie is going to be a rotation guy for DET imo.

[turty11]

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Spencer Denwiddie is going to be a rotation guy for DET imo.

saw him projected top 12 pick every mock prior to his ACL, very well could challenge for starting PG in a year or two, because jennigns is just lol