2014 Draft Discussion

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Re: 2014 Draft Class

both parker and wiggins have the potential to be phenomenal 2-way players...

parker has a more complete offensive game already where wiggins has alot more development to do and you cant really judge eithers defense (parker isnt playing his offensive position and self wont let wiggins guard big time players who can possibly get him fouls) which is why i cant fathom anyone having wiggins #1 on their big board. marcus smart is a more complete player than wiggins and possibly a better 2-way than parker is but hes not a 6'7 6'8 freak of nature athlete so his stock isnt as high

I think Smart's stock isn't as high because people aren't sure what position he plays in the NBA. Doesn't really look like he has the PG skills to play that position at the next level, and he's just a solid prospect if he's a SG IMO.

And I don't think Parker has the potential to be a great 2-way player. He can be a very good offensive player, but I think you're looking at an average at best defender. He can only improve his quickness so much.

[jeebs9]

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Why do you guys keep getting this PF position thing with Parkers? Duke is playing small.

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[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Re: 2014 Draft Class

Why do you guys keep getting this PF position thing with Parkers? Duke is playing small.

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I'm just not sure he's quick enough to defend SFs or beat SFs to the hoop. He gets beaten by average college athletes. I can't imagine him being able to keep many NBA SFs in front of him.

But again, we should get a better idea about it as the season goes on. Even if he's playing PF and sometimes C for Duke, he gets switched out onto SFs here and there. But the results have been pretty bad so far.

[jeebs9]

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Still not enough in my opinion.

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[ex carrabba fan]

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There is no way Parker is big enough to handle NBA power forwards. No way.

He'll be fine with the 3, just like Paul Pierce was.

Now where I disagreed with Wiggins is that I don't buy that Wiggins is as good defensively as Parker is offensively. That's saying so much.

[turty11]

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agreed.. parker already resembles a very VERY good offensive player, wiggins resembles a lance stephenson like defense...its somewhere between above average and good

[MattUM]

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Embiid's stats are very comparable to Lamarcus Aldridge's in college. I wonder if he could become a better defensive player than Aldridge, but without the face up jumper.

[turty11]

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Embiid's stats are very comparable to Lamarcus Aldridge's in college. I wonder if he could become a better defensive player than Aldridge, but without the face up jumper.

i think he already is very very close if not better than Aldridge on defense..he shows the potential to be a multi time DPOY if he fully develops

[MattUM]

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Hard to find a good NBA player comparison with him. Maybe 2010 Andrew Bynum without the injury problems.

[turty11]

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draft.net had him compared to bynum but he blows him out of the water athletically, and bynum even with all his injuries had legit post skills


like i said, right now he reminds me of javale mcgee without the mental lapses and semblances of an offensive game outside of dunks

[the_uniBRoW23]

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draft.net had him compared to bynum but he blows him out of the water athletically, and bynum even with all his injuries had legit post skills


like i said, right now he reminds me of javale mcgee without the mental lapses and semblances of an offensive game outside of dunks

I dont know what Kansas games you've been watching but Joel Embiid's offensive game involves a lot more than just dunking. He has a terrifically advanced low post game, has tremendous form on his jumper and has already knocked down a couple of mid range jumpers. Tbh the only thing that compares to McGee is his very low bball iq.

[KG]

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I don't know if I'd go that far in praising Wiggins' defense.

There is no way Parker is big enough to handle NBA power forwards. No way.

He'll be fine with the 3, just like Paul Pierce was.

Now where I disagreed with Wiggins is that I don't buy that Wiggins is as good defensively as Parker is offensively. That's saying so much.

I watched him lock down my Hoyas best player this weekend defending an offense that requires a lot of discipline at times. He has athleticism, length, good instincts on D, and the most important thing - desire. Now offensively, man he has a long way to go.

I dont know what Kansas games you've been watching but Joel Embiid's offensive game involves a lot more than just dunking. He has a terrifically advanced low post game, has tremendous form on his jumper and has already knocked down a couple of mid range jumpers. Tbh the only thing that compares to McGee is his very low bball iq.

Embiid is a unique player. Not so much skill wise but in the sense that he looks like he has been playing longer than he has mixed in with the fact you know he hasn't so you know he has room to go. I saw him knock down a 16 foot baseline J with no hesitation Saturday and his form looks pretty solid for a young big. I was very hesitant on him early but he's looked better each time I've seen him.

I think scouts' eyes are shifting when they're watching KU.

[turty11]

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uni, i used mcgee as a tremendously athletic C comparison, and i said hes shown flashes of having real offensive game unlike mcgee

[KG]

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uni, i used mcgee as a tremendously athletic C comparison, and i said hes shown flashes of having real offensive game unlike mcgee

I agree but he's not as athletic as McGee.


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[turty11]

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long time no posts.


roscoe smith draft stock is skyrocketing right now!

color me happy