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  • roadman
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    • Aug 2003
    • 26339

    #1666
    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

    Originally posted by 23
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    #Nets and Bucks discussing possible compensation for Kidd. Normally first round picks go to coach's former team.

    7:47 PM - 28 Jun 2014
    Ouch, back off new owners, picking Parker was a great move, now, back away.

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    • ProfessaPackMan
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      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #1667
      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

      Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
      Oh yeah, definitely much more stuff going on. Supposedly this blow up had already occurred when he was trying to bring Livingston and them back too. Really bizarre.
      I'm getting the feeling that he planned this whole thing out and that him and the Bucks' Owner had to have SOME sort of behind the scenes deal because there's no way you go up to The Russians(of all people in the world)and demand something and then as soon as they tell you "No", you tell them you want to interview with the Bucks unless you know they're going to give you full control.

      Because we already know that no other team will do that especially considering only 4 Coaches in the league have full control and 3 of them were just granted that in the last 2 months.

      This dude Kidd thinks he slick LOL
      #RespectTheCulture

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      • 23
        yellow
        • Sep 2002
        • 66469

        #1668
        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

        Its crazy though because he's not necessarily looking to coach

        Pack, yes of course man nobody screws the old job without having a backup plan in place already.

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        • ProfessaPackMan
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          • Mar 2008
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          #1669
          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

          Originally posted by 23
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          #Nets and Bucks discussing possible compensation for Kidd. Normally first round picks go to coach's former team.

          7:47 PM - 28 Jun 2014
          I'll settle for Jabari, GA though.
          #RespectTheCulture

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          • roadman
            *ll St*r
            • Aug 2003
            • 26339

            #1670
            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
            I'll settle for Jabari, GA though.
            I can't see a 15 win team giving up a 1st rounder.

            Hopefully, it's Illyosova.

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            • RyanLaFalce
              MVP
              • Apr 2009
              • 2337

              #1671
              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

              Good for Jason Kidd. Hopefully he goes to the Bucks, turns the franchise around, and attracts free agents there.

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              • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                • Dec 2006
                • 17294

                #1672
                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                I'll settle for Jabari, GA though.
                Obviously you were joking anyways, but players can't be traded in a deal for Kidd. It can only be picks and cash. I pray to god that Milwaukee isn't dumb enough to include any 1st round picks. I'd hope like hell they include a small amount of cash and at the very most a 2nd round draft pick.

                If they give up a 1st round pick, all of the excitement around the Bucks offseason will quickly turn into nothing but depression, and what fans are left will riot.
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                • SteelersFreak
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                  • May 2004
                  • 9582

                  #1673
                  Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                  Originally posted by Playmakers
                  TC should have a bounce back year in Dallas.....

                  The Mavs defensive scheme hasn't changed since he left they still switch everything on the perimeter trying to funnel the ball inside towards a big.

                  That is where TC is great with help defense....Him and Dirk had great chemistry during that title season.

                  It's also not a forgone conclusion that Felton starts at PG with D.Harris likely to return. Carlisle has his ways of getting players to perform and buy into the program so Felton will have every opportunity to challenge Harris but if he doesn't get with the program he could find himself not only playing behind Harris but Ellis would eat up minutes at PG.

                  If I'm the Mavs and I wanted to build a similar team to the 2011 title team I would target Ariza at SF and S.Livingston at PG.

                  I think Ariza gives you that length and defensive versatility on the perimeter very similar to Marion and Livingston gives you that big PG you can switch defensively onto bigger wing player much like Kidd while Ellis defends the lesser backcourt threat similar to how they utilized Terry.

                  I know Cuban is going to go for the home run signing (Melo/LBJ) but I think the Mavs have a better shot of signing two solid starters with that money and some more bench depth (backup C/PF).

                  Would love to see them go into next year with this lineup/rotation

                  PG-Livingston/Harris/Felton
                  SG-Ellis/Carter/Ricky Ledo
                  SF-Ariza/Crowder
                  PF-Dirk/Wright
                  C-Chandler/E.Okaor (If healthy would be a solid backup for TC)
                  My thoughts exactly on the free agents. I would love this team.

                  EDIT: Holy **** about this Jason Kidd thing. Dude really thinks he's the ****, huh?
                  Last edited by SteelersFreak; 06-28-2014, 10:49 PM.
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                  • NYJets
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 18637

                    #1674
                    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                    Can you put protections on a compensation pick?

                    If they give up an unprotected first for Kidd than wow....
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                    • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                      • Dec 2006
                      • 17294

                      #1675
                      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                      Originally posted by NYJets
                      Can you put protections on a compensation pick?

                      If they give up an unprotected first for Kidd than wow....
                      They can't. They just can't. There is no front office in the NBA that is that inept.
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                      • OkayC
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2013
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                        #1676
                        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                        So can someone put this in a nutshell for me? Cuz im having a hard time comprehending wtf is going on here. Kidd wants to do what?
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                        • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                          • Dec 2006
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                          #1677
                          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                          Originally posted by OkayC
                          So can someone put this in a nutshell for me? Cuz im having a hard time comprehending wtf is going on here. Kidd wants to do what?
                          As far as we know, Kidd went to the Nets and demanded to be the president of basketball operations, didn't get his way, asked if he could contact Milwaukee, got permission, set up an interview with Milwaukee, and now Milwaukee and Brooklyn are supposedly talking about compensation despite the fact that everyone is reporting Brooklyn will fire Kidd anyways. A Nets twitter guy speculated that based on recent history, a first round pick would likely be involved (though most of the time when a coach is traded, it's not a coach that's about to be fired, so the situation is obviously way different here).

                          Personally, I expect that Milwaukee would, at the most, give up cash and a 2nd round pick, but nobody really knows at this point, and if it's a first round pick, regardless of protection, I will probably cry myself to sleep.
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                          • turty11
                            All Star
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 8923

                            #1678
                            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                            forget the compensation, the bucks would be insane to put kidd as a coach or front office personnel.

                            possibly turning the team around with giannis and jabari in back to back drafts, then this.. not sure who wants to be perma lottery more out of them or the sixers

                            this was a great tweet

                            SB Nation ‏<s>@</s>SBNation <small class="time"> 10m </small> Jason Kidd should really consider going into hiding. MT <s>@</s>WojYahooNBA: "Russians are done with Kidd," one source tells Yahoo.

                            Matt Moore CBS ‏<s>@</s>MattMooreCBS <small class="time"> 1h </small> Bucks ownership hasn't informed coach, GM that Jason Kidd will be interviewing with them


                            dat sneak up firing thats incoming
                            Last edited by turty11; 06-28-2014, 11:00 PM.
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                            • MattUM
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 1051

                              #1679
                              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                              Originally posted by OkayC
                              So can someone put this in a nutshell for me? Cuz im having a hard time comprehending wtf is going on here. Kidd wants to do what?
                              Kidd wanted to make personnel decisions in addition coach duties, Nets said no and don't want him around anymore. Bucks are interested in hiring him now that the Nets have declared him available.
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                              • Yeah...THAT Guy
                                Once in a Lifetime Memory
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 17294

                                #1680
                                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                                Oh thank god. I can live with giving up a couple 2nd round picks even if it seems like common sense that we can just wait a week for them to fire him and get him for free.

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                                Realistic compensation for Bucks to deliver Nets: "Bunch of second-round picks," one source says. No doubt Nets pursuing a first-rounder.
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