For those who are white-americans...

**MartinDihigo** · 06-14-2004, 12:54 AM

Re: For those who are white-americans...

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jordan0386 said:
would having more top tier white nba players affect your perception of the game?

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no im sorry , i really dont look at color in a basketball game. I am to busy watching the game.
I honestly have never thought about it.
I happen to be a white person who experienced racism as a player from a black coach. But i dont look at players or coaches color , but i know (from experience^) that ignorance , racism , just plain dumbness exists.

I dont know what color the players are. I know people are sometimes greatly affected by image so who knows what more white stars would do ? Any unnatural selection method would be unnecessarily risky. The last thing i want to see is athletes selected without merit. Let the chips fall.

**jordan0386** · 06-14-2004, 12:58 AM

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for the love of god press enter

**jordan0386** · 06-14-2004, 12:58 AM

Re: For those who are white-americans...

for the love of god press enter

**jordan0386** · 06-14-2004, 12:58 AM

Re: For those who are white-americans...

for the love of god press enter

**BigTigLSU** · 06-14-2004, 02:07 AM

Re: For those who are white-americans...

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It doesnt really matter to me but it DOES matter to corporate america a good amount

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Because its alot easier to sell a cornfed white boy like Keith Van Horn then a tattooed thug like Kenyon Martin to white america

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Not really, In the 80s Magic was a far more viable asset rather then Larry Bird who was too bland to be truly marketed. Most of the white players i've seen in the NBA are devoid of true personality.

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Magic wasnt a tattoed thug either im talking about present day NBA

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How is kenyon martin a "thug"? DO you even know what a thug is?

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I think the numerous muggings, errr. flagrant fouls and cheap shots he's dished out in recent years qualifies him as a thug.

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You mean like Bill Laimbeer

I agree with you with alot of what you said in this post and its not being PC its the truth as the lack of fundamental fun baskeyball multiolies in the NBA people stop watching. As far as NFL is concerned it goes the same way. As long as players Black WHite or what ever pplay at a high level people will watch. If you think any different you may have a hint of race bias in you.

Money wise Corporate AMerica sells what people buy and I garuntee that McNair and Vick Jersies sell more the MAnning and Farve ones do. And check out the commercials during games you might see a GMC commercial with country music or a damn old navy one with rap so race is not as important than what sells.

**BigTigLSU** · 06-14-2004, 02:07 AM

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bkrich83 said:
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jmood88 said:
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Taur3asi3 said:
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SportsmanTO said:
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Taur3asi3 said:
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SoMiss2000 said:
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Taur3asi3 said:
It doesnt really matter to me but it DOES matter to corporate america a good amount

<hr /></blockquote>why?

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Because its alot easier to sell a cornfed white boy like Keith Van Horn then a tattooed thug like Kenyon Martin to white america

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Not really, In the 80s Magic was a far more viable asset rather then Larry Bird who was too bland to be truly marketed. Most of the white players i've seen in the NBA are devoid of true personality.

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Magic wasnt a tattoed thug either im talking about present day NBA

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How is kenyon martin a "thug"? DO you even know what a thug is?

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I think the numerous muggings, errr. flagrant fouls and cheap shots he's dished out in recent years qualifies him as a thug.

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You mean like Bill Laimbeer

I agree with you with alot of what you said in this post and its not being PC its the truth as the lack of fundamental fun baskeyball multiolies in the NBA people stop watching. As far as NFL is concerned it goes the same way. As long as players Black WHite or what ever pplay at a high level people will watch. If you think any different you may have a hint of race bias in you.

Money wise Corporate AMerica sells what people buy and I garuntee that McNair and Vick Jersies sell more the MAnning and Farve ones do. And check out the commercials during games you might see a GMC commercial with country music or a damn old navy one with rap so race is not as important than what sells.

**BigTigLSU** · 06-14-2004, 02:07 AM

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bkrich83 said:
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jmood88 said:
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Taur3asi3 said:
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SportsmanTO said:
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Taur3asi3 said:
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SoMiss2000 said:
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Taur3asi3 said:
It doesnt really matter to me but it DOES matter to corporate america a good amount

<hr /></blockquote>why?

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Because its alot easier to sell a cornfed white boy like Keith Van Horn then a tattooed thug like Kenyon Martin to white america

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Not really, In the 80s Magic was a far more viable asset rather then Larry Bird who was too bland to be truly marketed. Most of the white players i've seen in the NBA are devoid of true personality.

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Magic wasnt a tattoed thug either im talking about present day NBA

<hr /></blockquote>

How is kenyon martin a "thug"? DO you even know what a thug is?

<hr /></blockquote>

I think the numerous muggings, errr. flagrant fouls and cheap shots he's dished out in recent years qualifies him as a thug.

<hr /></blockquote>

You mean like Bill Laimbeer

I agree with you with alot of what you said in this post and its not being PC its the truth as the lack of fundamental fun baskeyball multiolies in the NBA people stop watching. As far as NFL is concerned it goes the same way. As long as players Black WHite or what ever pplay at a high level people will watch. If you think any different you may have a hint of race bias in you.

Money wise Corporate AMerica sells what people buy and I garuntee that McNair and Vick Jersies sell more the MAnning and Farve ones do. And check out the commercials during games you might see a GMC commercial with country music or a damn old navy one with rap so race is not as important than what sells.

**bravosfan** · 06-14-2004, 02:16 AM

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Very interesting discussion.

I heard on 'Outside the Lines' that at the end of the regular season, there were only 50 white-Americans in the NBA. 13% of the league. And only 1 in the NBA finals, Luke Walton. I don't know what that means or how it affects the audience, I just found it interesting.

I'm a white guy, and I lost interest in the NBA several years ago. I was never a hard-core fan, but I followed it pretty closely. Would a white star get my attention? Probably, but more as a novelty act than anything else. It would likely increase interest in the league overall, but I expect that would pass.

I can't really explain why I've lost interest in the NBA, I just have. I don't follow the predominately white sports either, so I don't believe it's race. I don't care about NASCAR, golf or soccer, and I barely follow tennis and the NHL. I hardly care for the NFL even anymore. Baseball is really the only sport I'm passionate about these days.

I really haven't cared much for the NBA since the lockout, but I don't think that's the reason.

And as I said before, I've never been a hard-core fan, so I probably wouldn't have noticed much the decline in fundamentals, as many people mention.

I'm not sure what it would take for me to start following the NBA again, but I know it wouldn't be a white star. I used to be a fan of the NBA, and there weren't many white players then either.

Actually, as I'm typing this reply, I may have realized the reason I no longer enjoy NBA basketball. When I followed the NBA, I enjoyed the action. There's just not as much action in an NBA game these days. The games have become predictable and just aren't much fun to watch. Unless you're a hard-core fan, as many of you obviously are.

Anyway, that's my $.02. Hopefully I've provided a little insight into the mind of a "casual" NBA fan, who's lost interest.

**bravosfan** · 06-14-2004, 02:16 AM

Re: For those who are white-americans...

Very interesting discussion.

I heard on 'Outside the Lines' that at the end of the regular season, there were only 50 white-Americans in the NBA. 13% of the league. And only 1 in the NBA finals, Luke Walton. I don't know what that means or how it affects the audience, I just found it interesting.

I'm a white guy, and I lost interest in the NBA several years ago. I was never a hard-core fan, but I followed it pretty closely. Would a white star get my attention? Probably, but more as a novelty act than anything else. It would likely increase interest in the league overall, but I expect that would pass.

I can't really explain why I've lost interest in the NBA, I just have. I don't follow the predominately white sports either, so I don't believe it's race. I don't care about NASCAR, golf or soccer, and I barely follow tennis and the NHL. I hardly care for the NFL even anymore. Baseball is really the only sport I'm passionate about these days.

I really haven't cared much for the NBA since the lockout, but I don't think that's the reason.

And as I said before, I've never been a hard-core fan, so I probably wouldn't have noticed much the decline in fundamentals, as many people mention.

I'm not sure what it would take for me to start following the NBA again, but I know it wouldn't be a white star. I used to be a fan of the NBA, and there weren't many white players then either.

Actually, as I'm typing this reply, I may have realized the reason I no longer enjoy NBA basketball. When I followed the NBA, I enjoyed the action. There's just not as much action in an NBA game these days. The games have become predictable and just aren't much fun to watch. Unless you're a hard-core fan, as many of you obviously are.

Anyway, that's my $.02. Hopefully I've provided a little insight into the mind of a "casual" NBA fan, who's lost interest.

**bravosfan** · 06-14-2004, 02:16 AM

Re: For those who are white-americans...

Very interesting discussion.

I heard on 'Outside the Lines' that at the end of the regular season, there were only 50 white-Americans in the NBA. 13% of the league. And only 1 in the NBA finals, Luke Walton. I don't know what that means or how it affects the audience, I just found it interesting.

I'm a white guy, and I lost interest in the NBA several years ago. I was never a hard-core fan, but I followed it pretty closely. Would a white star get my attention? Probably, but more as a novelty act than anything else. It would likely increase interest in the league overall, but I expect that would pass.

I can't really explain why I've lost interest in the NBA, I just have. I don't follow the predominately white sports either, so I don't believe it's race. I don't care about NASCAR, golf or soccer, and I barely follow tennis and the NHL. I hardly care for the NFL even anymore. Baseball is really the only sport I'm passionate about these days.

I really haven't cared much for the NBA since the lockout, but I don't think that's the reason.

And as I said before, I've never been a hard-core fan, so I probably wouldn't have noticed much the decline in fundamentals, as many people mention.

I'm not sure what it would take for me to start following the NBA again, but I know it wouldn't be a white star. I used to be a fan of the NBA, and there weren't many white players then either.

Actually, as I'm typing this reply, I may have realized the reason I no longer enjoy NBA basketball. When I followed the NBA, I enjoyed the action. There's just not as much action in an NBA game these days. The games have become predictable and just aren't much fun to watch. Unless you're a hard-core fan, as many of you obviously are.

Anyway, that's my $.02. Hopefully I've provided a little insight into the mind of a "casual" NBA fan, who's lost interest.

**timid** · 06-14-2004, 04:22 AM

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Well, from seeing Outside the Lines tonight, they pretty much said most of what we said in this thread. It would probably make a difference and every kid they talked to at the high schools said the same thing.

**timid** · 06-14-2004, 04:22 AM

Re: For those who are white-americans...

Well, from seeing Outside the Lines tonight, they pretty much said most of what we said in this thread. It would probably make a difference and every kid they talked to at the high schools said the same thing.

**timid** · 06-14-2004, 04:22 AM

Re: For those who are white-americans...

Well, from seeing Outside the Lines tonight, they pretty much said most of what we said in this thread. It would probably make a difference and every kid they talked to at the high schools said the same thing.

**mgoblue** · 06-14-2004, 08:50 AM

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It would help if there were more white NBA super stars, but truth be told, NBA is dominated by Black athletes.. Not a bad thing.. Just pointing out the obvious..

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Agreed, and I don't really see many big time white players in the pipeline ready to enter the league.

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I agree with you both...I think that a few more big time white players would help the NBA gain popularity with white middle america, people who may not be into the game right now. Personally though, I could care less...I'm a Pistons fan, and a fan of the game, so I like watching basketball, could care less what color the people playing it are.

**mgoblue** · 06-14-2004, 08:50 AM

Re: For those who are white-americans...

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bkrich83 said:
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koolbubbaice said:
It would help if there were more white NBA super stars, but truth be told, NBA is dominated by Black athletes.. Not a bad thing.. Just pointing out the obvious..

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Agreed, and I don't really see many big time white players in the pipeline ready to enter the league.

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I agree with you both...I think that a few more big time white players would help the NBA gain popularity with white middle america, people who may not be into the game right now. Personally though, I could care less...I'm a Pistons fan, and a fan of the game, so I like watching basketball, could care less what color the people playing it are.

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