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  • SteelersFreak
    All Star
    • May 2004
    • 9582

    #5161
    Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by King_B_Mack
    That's all well and good, but there were dudes bitching about the fact that he changed his mind at all. Even if DeAndre had called Cuban, all the other FA bigs were off the board, so a phone call wasn't gonna change ****. Certainly not in the public eye anyway. All I'm saying is I haven't seen any 'end the moratorium' venom today around here or Twitter or Facebook or anywhere else sports is discussed.
    Cuban also told all the new free agent signings they were free to look elsewhere after the Jordan **** went down. Its not the same in any way.

    Also its Richard ****ing Jefferson.
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    • wwharton
      *ll St*r
      • Aug 2002
      • 26949

      #5162
      Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by SteelersFreak
      Cuban also told all the new free agent signings they were free to look elsewhere after the Jordan **** went down. Its not the same in any way.

      Also its Richard ****ing Jefferson.
      I'm actually against the "It's Richard Jefferson" mindset, because (even though we know it happens) rules shouldn't be enforced or bent based on the level of the player... news shouldn't be bigger when something shady happens if it's a superstar.

      But, of course, this shouldn't be news either way. Personally I gained more respect for Jordan for realizing his worth and the best situation for him considering it.

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      • superjames1992
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        • Jun 2007
        • 31382

        #5163
        Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

        Jimmer is supposedly near agreeing to a contract with the Spurs. Hmm.
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        • redsox4evur
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2013
          • 18169

          #5164
          Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

          Originally posted by wwharton
          I'm actually against the "It's Richard Jefferson" mindset, because (even though we know it happens) rules shouldn't be enforced or bent based on the level of the player... news shouldn't be bigger when something shady happens if it's a superstar.

          But, of course, this shouldn't be news either way. Personally I gained more respect for Jordan for realizing his worth and the best situation for him considering it.
          Yea I hate that people are being like oh it's Richard Jefferson he's an old and can't play anymore. It shouldn't matter if it's Adam Morrison or Michael Jordan the reaction should be the same for each player. One way or the other. Either he is a complete total ****ing ******* because he signed a contract and should honor that commitment or it's cool he can do that because he's a human being and all the time people change their mind on something.
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          • The 24th Letter
            ERA
            • Oct 2007
            • 39373

            #5165
            Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

            Well when I said that I was commenting as to why it wasn't s big topic of conversation.....not to mention RJ didn't break/ bend any rules in the first place...lol

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            • Caveman24
              MVP
              • Jul 2011
              • 1352

              #5166
              Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by superjames1992
              Jimmer is supposedly near agreeing to a contract with the Spurs. Hmm.


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              • The 24th Letter
                ERA
                • Oct 2007
                • 39373

                #5167
                Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by superjames1992
                Jimmer is supposedly near agreeing to a contract with the Spurs. Hmm.

                I like it.....does he play any defense?

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                • Caveman24
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                  • Jul 2011
                  • 1352

                  #5168
                  Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                  I like it.....does he play any defense?


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                  • King_B_Mack
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                    • Jan 2009
                    • 24450

                    #5169
                    Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                    Well when I said that I was commenting as to why it wasn't s big topic of conversation.....not to mention RJ didn't break/ bend any rules in the first place...lol

                    Neither did DeAndre.

                    Let me point out because I think a lot of you missed my point. I wasn't throwing shade at Mark Cuban. I was just commenting on the fact that around here and certainly in the media and the general sports world, people were flipping the **** out on DeAndre about changing his mind and that was before the whole saga finished playing out and we found out he didn't call Cuban. There were people acting like this sort of thing doesn't literally happen all the time where people change their minds and the calls for changing the free agency system sure as hell didn't have anything to do with whether or not phone calls to tell the other team a decision was being made.

                    I was simply asking why there was no moratorium ending talks for this story and now we're talking about its different because he called Cuban and RJ isn't important enough? If people are mad about players changing their minds to the point of changing the entire system, then be consistent in that is all I ask. Same as we all ask of the refs.


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                    • redsox4evur
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                      • Jul 2013
                      • 18169

                      #5170
                      Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                      Neither did DeAndre.

                      I was simply asking why there was no moratorium ending talks for this story and now we're talking about its different because he called Cuban and RJ isn't important enough? If people are mad about players changing their minds to the point of changing the entire system, then be consistent in that is all I ask. Same as we all ask of the refs.


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                      Did RJ sign during the moratorium period though or did he sign after? Because obviously it makes a huge difference as to why we aren't hearing those talks.
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                      • zasbury25
                        The Magic
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 1204

                        #5171
                        Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                        No one officially signs during the FA moratorium...it's all verbal commitments/honor system.

                        Personally, I think the moratorium is all based on hype that the NBA wants to create during the offseason...their way of being the center of attention in July. I think they should not be allowed to talk to players until the salary cap is set (the reason the NBA gives for the moratorium) and they should be able to sign freely after that point.
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                        • ojandpizza
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                          • Apr 2011
                          • 29807

                          #5172
                          Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                          Because nobody cares about Richard Jefferson lol


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                          • King_B_Mack
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                            • Jan 2009
                            • 24450

                            #5173
                            Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by zasbury25
                            No one officially signs during the FA moratorium...it's all verbal commitments/honor system.

                            Personally, I think the moratorium is all based on hype that the NBA wants to create during the offseason...their way of being the center of attention in July. I think they should not be allowed to talk to players until the salary cap is set (the reason the NBA gives for the moratorium) and they should be able to sign freely after that point.

                            The moratorium period isn't about creating hype. It's the league going through their accounting for that year. I know most of us are cool and do our stuff in about an hour or two with Turbo Tax or something, but it takes a little longer to handle the billions of dollars they're working with


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                            • zasbury25
                              The Magic
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 1204

                              #5174
                              Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                              Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                              The moratorium period isn't about creating hype. It's the league going through their accounting for that year. I know most of us are cool and do our stuff in about an hour or two with Turbo Tax or something, but it takes a little longer to handle the billions of dollars they're working with


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                              Then make it the 15th of July or whatever arbitrary date and call it a day...why don't they do that then? No need for a moratorium then...everyone would be free to negotiate and sign as they desire with the proper salary cap numbers.
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                              • ThreeKing
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 5852

                                #5175
                                Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                                How big of an MJ biter is LeBron?? Space Jam 2? Really??

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