2016 NBA Offseason Thread

[wco81]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

Do EC teams have to make drastic changes though?

Lebron is going to be 32 in December and his numbers seem to be in decline, especially outside the paint.

He could still run and jump as well as any player but once he loses a step or two, he's not going to be as productive inside the paint either.

So the top 3 or 4 EC teams outside of Cleveland should close the gap a lot barring any serious roster moves among them.

[ProfessaPackMan]

2016 Offseason Thread

I'll believe Lebron is in decline when his overall play starts to take a serious decline. And it doesn't look like that's happening anytime in the near future.

In regards to the top 3-4 teams outside of Cleveland, it changes every year it's hard to say if the gap will close even if they make changes.

[redsox4evur]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

The Celtics are saying there will be fireworks this season. But I believe our whole offseason is resting on the annual porking of the ping-pong balls. If we land top 2 something big will happen. But if we fall anywhere from 3-6 I expect a similar offseason to last offseason.

[SPTO]

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I think the Raptors will continue to be in the conversation as one of the top EC teams even if they lose DeRozan as I think next season will be a breakout year for JV plus i'm sure Masai will make some astute moves in free agency and the draft.

Like it or not the Raptors have been one of the top teams in the conference over the last 3 years and very nearly got the #1 seed this year.

[wco81]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

FA options for 2s and 3s are pretty slim:

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/small-forward/

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/shooting-guard/


Unless you win the KD sweepstakes, there doesn't seem to be a 2 or 3 that Toronto could get who'd replace his scoring.

[z Revis]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

FA options for 2s and 3s are pretty slim:

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/small-forward/

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/shooting-guard/


Unless you win the KD sweepstakes, there doesn't seem to be a 2 or 3 that Toronto could get who'd replace his scoring.

I can see Norman Powell taking a big step next season especially if Derozan isn't there.

Either way Raptors SHOULD let Derozan go.

[wco81]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

Let's say Toronto is competitive with the Cavs in the ECF.

Would you still let Derozan go?

Not that easy to replace 24 PPG.

Lowry is 30 so how many more seasons does he have at his current level of play?

Even if Toronto gets swept, they're still clearly the second best in the EC, with big separation from Cleveland but also pretty clear separation from the rest of the EC.

Hard to let a key piece of that team go. There are more efficient scorers than DD but are any of them obtainable by Toronto this offseason?

[cima]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

I don't think they want to let him go, it's just he likely will leave himself


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[SteveQ]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

I wouldn't say they should let him go because like others have mentioned it isn't many guys who could replace him in FA this year even if he's not the most efficient scorer.

[ProfessaPackMan]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

I don't think they want to let him go, it's just he likely will leave himself


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I can buy this as opposed to them LETTING him walk and thinking that they'll still get better. You lose that much production, it'd be naive to think that they wouldn't drop off.

Now if he wants to turn down that extra $30 Mil just to go home and play with a worse team, then go ahead. But unless he's more confident in Mitch Kupchek building a better team than Ujiri going forward, it doesn't make sense for him to leave.

[wco81]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

But Toronto could offer him an extra year right?

I guess going back home would be a strong pull but to go from a 56-win team to a 17-win team?

Lakers could win the draft lottery and also sign another big player like Whiteside.

But to give up 40 wins just to go home? He's still young but for the next couple of years, his best chances of advancing is to stay in the East, unless the Cavs sweep the next 8 games.

[z Revis]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

He isn't worth the max. If he takes on a lesser contract then fine, but otherwise no. If he isn't scoring he's just about useless out there and even when he is it takes him 25 shots if the refs aren't sending him to the line. They can replace his scoring with Powell, playing more through JV, and/or signing/drafting someone.

[SPTO]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

I can buy this as opposed to them LETTING him walk and thinking that they'll still get better. You lose that much production, it'd be naive to think that they wouldn't drop off.

Now if he wants to turn down that extra $30 Mil just to go home and play with a worse team, then go ahead. But unless he's more confident in Mitch Kupchek building a better team than Ujiri going forward, it doesn't make sense for him to leave.

I have a feeling it'll be similar to the Lowry situation where everyone said he was going to Miami but he stayed in Toronto. Demar would be a damn fool if the Raptors offer him max money but chooses to go to a poorly run organization like the Lakers.

[wco81]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

Miami has a lot of difficult choices.

Besides deciding what to do about Whiteside, they will have to find a way to replace Bosh's scoring and rebounding and make decisions on how much it would be worth paying to keep Wade.

Deng is also a UFA.

They need to get younger wings and they have Winslow and Richardson but they may not be consistent enough shooters.

Joe Johnson probably isn't worth retaining at his age and declining production.

[ProfessaPackMan]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

I'd bring Joe back if I were them. They got him for nothing considering we paid him and he's not getting another pay day like he did when he was in Atlanta.

He seemed to like it there so if you can bring him back on a 2 year deal with a team option in the 2nd year for like $6-7 Mil(will look like a bargain with the cap going up), then bring him back.