The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

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  • The 24th Letter
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    • Oct 2007
    • 39373

    #1966
    Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

    “There’s probably people calling Kevin Love soft and those people are idiots,” Bogut said. “You don’t mess around with the brain. You can be a hero now in the NBA Finals in 2016, and in 2021 you will be sucking food through a straw. “And you won’t give a [expletive] about what you did in 2016.”

    Bogut would know. The former No. 1 overall pick missed two weeks of action early in the season after bumping heads with New Orleans forward Dante Cunningham in the Warriors’ opener. Bogut would later refer to suffering the concussion as the worst injury of his career — and this is a guy who broke his hand, sprained his wrist and dislocated his elbow all on the same fall during a game in 2010.
    Captain Jack posted and deleted a pic about K Love being soft...glad Bogut spoke on it

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    • cima
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2004
      • 13478

      #1967
      Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

      Originally posted by ojandpizza
      Love coming off the bench.. About to drop 30 lol


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      I haven't seen this confirmed anywhere...

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      • Boltman
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        • Mar 2004
        • 18283

        #1968
        Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

        Love coming off the bench, smart.

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        • cima
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2004
          • 13478

          #1969
          Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

          Originally posted by The 24th Letter
          Yeah I see at the least one of the Splash Bros getting going tonight...no way they play this way 4 straight. I'll probably miss most of the game but I'm going to check in here first, I can always tell who is up by the amount of replies, lol
          We've literally been saying that after every game so far, lol.

          "There's no way at least 1 of them will have 2 bad games in a row"

          "There's no way at least 1 of them will have 3 bad games in a row"

          "There's no way at least 1 of them will have 4 bad games in a row"

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          • cima
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2004
            • 13478

            #1970
            Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

            I'll keep preaching the same thing; with the combination of how good the Cavs' starting lineup played last game and how poorly the Cavs bench has played every game, it's really a no-brainer to have Love come off the bench to provide much needed scoring. Hopefully coach cLueless agrees (he still gets this nickname until they win tonight).

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            • The 24th Letter
              ERA
              • Oct 2007
              • 39373

              #1971
              Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

              Originally posted by cima
              We've literally been saying that after every game so far, lol.

              "There's no way at least 1 of them will have 2 bad games in a row"

              "There's no way at least 1 of them will have 3 bad games in a row"

              "There's no way at least 1 of them will have 4 bad games in a row"
              Fair point...I'll probably say it next game too of it happens again though

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              • dsallupinyaarea
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                • Jan 2009
                • 2764

                #1972
                Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                Originally posted by cima
                We've literally been saying that after every game so far, lol.

                "There's no way at least 1 of them will have 2 bad games in a row"

                "There's no way at least 1 of them will have 3 bad games in a row"

                "There's no way at least 1 of them will have 4 bad games in a row"

                It's almost as if we have a 2+ year sample of them playing way better than this.
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                • cima
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 13478

                  #1973
                  Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                  Originally posted by dsallupinyaarea
                  It's almost as if we have a 2+ year sample of them playing way better than this.
                  True but at the same time, we now have a 9 game sample of Klay Thompson playing poorly in the Finals. He also may be affected from his thigh contusion given the short turnaround between Games 3 and 4.

                  And Curry well...he's probably injured even though they won't admit it.

                  I keep thinking the same thing myself that eventually one will get going, but I'm perfectly fine if they don't

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                  • cima
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 13478

                    #1974
                    Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

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                    • jeremym480
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                      • Oct 2008
                      • 18198

                      #1975
                      Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                      Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                      Yeah I see at the least one of the Splash Bros getting going tonight...no way they play this way 4 straight. I'll probably miss most of the game but I'm going to check in here first, I can always tell who is up by the amount of replies, lol
                      Game 3 was a disaster for the Splash Brothers, but Game 2 wasn't actually a decent game for them. They both shot 4-8 from 3 and both played pretty well with the exception of turning the ball over a little too much.

                      Curry only played 25 minutes due to foul trouble and still had 18 points, 9 boards and 4 assist. Klay had 17 points in 31 minutes and they both shot over 50% from the field. Maybe that's not what we used to seeing from them, but can we really say Game 2 was bad game for them?
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                      • BleacherBum2310
                        All Star
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 7107

                        #1976
                        Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                        I dunno if Steph will find his offensive game but I feel pretty confident he and the Warriors won't have that bad of a defensive game again.
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                        • wwharton
                          *ll St*r
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 26949

                          #1977
                          Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                          Originally posted by ojandpizza
                          That was also referring to last season.

                          And it was more a "had they been healthy this series might have been different"... Not a "GS only won because Kyrie/Love were out".. Unless it was cima posting lol.

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                          It was.

                          Originally posted by jeremym480
                          Game 3 was a disaster for the Splash Brothers, but Game 2 wasn't actually a decent game for them. They both shot 4-8 from 3 and both played pretty well with the exception of turning the ball over a little too much.

                          Curry only played 25 minutes due to foul trouble and still had 18 points, 9 boards and 4 assist. Klay had 17 points in 31 minutes and they both shot over 50% from the field. Maybe that's not what we used to seeing from them, but can we really say Game 2 was bad game for them?
                          Exactly. Curry was 7-11 in Game 2. They play as a team, they don't care who scores... the offense doesn't have to run through him. People are saying "How can you shut down Curry and Klay but can't even stop Barbosa and Livingston?" Well when you choose to go all in on the stars, you leave everyone else wide open. That's the point. Curry was awful in Game 3 (and still had 13 in 5 mins in the 3rd qtr btw) but played well when he was on the floor in Game 2. And his presence alone made it alot easier for the other guys to go off. This is exactly why you can't just look at stats.

                          Also, all this talk about Love is hilarious. Before it wasn't that Love was the liability it was Kyrie! GS was literally attacking him every chance they could because his defense was so bad... and people around here were saying "Love looks much better out there, at least he's putting in effort... Kyrie's gotta go."

                          Bottom line is roll players play better at home. The strategy to shut down Klay and Curry as destined to be more effective in Cleveland bc the GS role players weren't likely to step up like they did at home. We also should've expected Kyrie, Smith and TT to play better at home. If Love was healthy, I would've expected him to play better too. Him getting hurt wasn't some magic solution to them turning the series around.

                          I hear 24's take that it generally helps balance the team more with him coming off the bench, and I doubt he's 100% so it makes sense to limit his minutes because of that. But this idea that they blew GS out without him means that he was the problem in Games 1 and 2 is ridiculous.

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                          • areobee401
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 16771

                            #1978
                            Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                            So everyone who suggested Kevin Love would be better suited coming off the bench against GSW said all that?
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                            • wwharton
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                              • Aug 2002
                              • 26949

                              #1979
                              Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                              Originally posted by areobee401
                              So everyone who suggested Kevin Love would be better suited coming off the bench against GSW said all that?
                              Did they? Maybe you should re-read what I wrote. I'm pretty sure some others agreed with 24 but if you just want to argue you can ignore that part of it.

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                              • Boltman
                                L.A. to S.D. to HI
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 18283

                                #1980
                                Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                                Originally posted by wwharton
                                But this idea that they blew GS out without him means that he was the problem in Games 1 and 2 is ridiculous.
                                There are people that actually think the blowout happened strictly because of no Love?

                                Well let's just say that Love didn't play in game three and it happened to also be the one game they've won in the series. Oh and they beat them by 30.

                                I'd say them being at home and down 2-0 had more to do with the blowout than no Love. But I'm sure that no Love was one of the many contributing factors to the result of game 3.

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