The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

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  • Cavsfan4life
    MVP
    • Sep 2009
    • 1039

    #1951
    Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

    Originally posted by cima
    I hate having to repeat myself, but domino effect! It's not as much the addition of Richard Jefferson as it's the absence of Kevin Love that made the difference. It could be Iman Shumpert too, it's just a more athletic wing that plays good D in place of a less athletic big man who doesn't play good D. It's honestly that simple. Go watch Games 1 and 2 again, when Love is on the floor, there is less ball movement because he doesn't always make quick decisions and holds the ball.
    Again, how much of that was a team problem versus player game plan problem? In games 1 and 2, Love wasn't the only one to stop the ball, and it seemed like GSW was content on switching and letting guys try to score 1 on 1.

    Cavs made adjustments and it worked out, but I really doubt it had anything to do with Love missing the game. I mean in games 1 and 2 our small ball lineups were killed anyways, one win changes all that? We will see I guess.

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    • cima
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2004
      • 13478

      #1952
      Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

      Originally posted by cavsfan4life
      Again, how much of that was a team problem versus player game plan problem? In games 1 and 2, Love wasn't the only one to stop the ball, and it seemed like GSW was content on switching and letting guys try to score 1 on 1.

      Cavs made adjustments and it worked out, but I really doubt it had anything to do with Love missing the game. I mean in games 1 and 2 our small ball lineups were killed anyways, one win changes all that? We will see I guess.
      I just can't support the notion to go back to what wasn't working. You stick with what got you the W, you don't go back to what didn't work before and hope you get the same results. They may be able to replicate those results with Love; but you don't risk trying that when you're down 2-1 into the Finals, it's not worth the risk. They're 1 game from facing elimination on the road. No more time for status quo. Stick with what worked until it doesn't work anymore.

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      • Cavsfan4life
        MVP
        • Sep 2009
        • 1039

        #1953
        Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

        Originally posted by cima
        I just can't support the notion to go back to what wasn't working. You stick with what got you the W, you don't go back to what didn't work before and hope you get the same results. They may be able to replicate those results with Love; but you don't risk trying that when you're down 2-1 into the Finals, it's not worth the risk. They're 1 game from facing elimination on the road. No more time for status quo. Stick with what worked until it doesn't work anymore.
        I agree with the bold, don't go back into letting GSW bait you into iso ball, and continue to have great effort defensively, which they did all all playoffs until games 3 and 4 vs Toronto and games 1 and 2 vs GS.

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        • TMagic
          G.O.A.T.
          • Apr 2007
          • 7550

          #1954
          Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

          The internet needs to stop man...



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          • ProfessaPackMan
            Bamma
            • Mar 2008
            • 63852

            #1955
            Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

            Originally posted by cavsfan4life
            I agree with the bold, don't go back into letting GSW bait you into iso ball, and continue to have great effort defensively, which they did all all playoffs until games 3 and 4 vs Toronto and games 1 and 2 vs GS.
            I was just glad to see they didn't make it 3 straight games of zero off ball action on Offense, since that had play a nice part in them being down 0-2, among other things.
            #RespectTheCulture

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            • The 24th Letter
              ERA
              • Oct 2007
              • 39373

              #1956
              Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

              Feels like the 3rd and 4th quarter were mostly comprised of Iso's.....they were just going in this time

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              • ProfessaPackMan
                Bamma
                • Mar 2008
                • 63852

                #1957
                Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                Feels like the 3rd and 4th quarter were mostly comprised of Iso's.....they were just going in this time
                I'm not speaking on their shots, I'm talking about the action away from the ball, which they showed very little of outside of 3-4 mins in both of the 1st 2 games.
                #RespectTheCulture

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                • ojandpizza
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 29807

                  #1958
                  Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                  Love coming off the bench.. About to drop 30 lol


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                  • King_B_Mack
                    All Star
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 24450

                    #1959
                    Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                    I can't wait to read the reactions if the Cavs lose this game. Especially if it's a blow out


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                    • Cavsfan4life
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 1039

                      #1960
                      Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                      Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                      I can't wait to read the reactions if the Cavs lose this game. Especially if it's a blow out


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                      I love the Cavs, but a loss tonight, close or not, I think it pretty much clinches it for GSW.

                      That said, I think the Cavs win tonight in a close game, and the 1st game where the splash Bros look like the splash Bros.

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                      • Scofield
                        Pro
                        • May 2014
                        • 523

                        #1961
                        Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                        Whether or not Love starts is irrelevant. The question is can you have him on the floor against GS most potent lineup with the game up for grabs? I think Kyrie, JR and LeBron have to be on the floor. That leaves two slots. Do you go with both Love and TT to max out rebounding or RJ and Love for maximum spacing for LeBron? You also have the RJ/TT option for better defensive coverage.

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                        • King_B_Mack
                          All Star
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 24450

                          #1962
                          Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                          LeBron's jumper is going to need to not be a one game anomaly as well. Seemed like he was knocking down everything he shot in game 3, Kyrie as well. When he pulled the trigger, it just felt like it was going to go in from anywhere on the court and that's pretty much what happened.

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                          • ojandpizza
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 29807

                            #1963
                            Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                            Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                            LeBron's jumper is going to need to not be a one game anomaly as well. Seemed like he was knocking down everything he shot in game 3, Kyrie as well. When he pulled the trigger, it just felt like it was going to go in from anywhere on the court and that's pretty much what happened.


                            Basically this. Idk that they will shoot that well again, but LeBron did miss some short ones that might even it out for him.

                            Kyrie on the other had has to stay aggressive and make sure he's contributing even if the shots aren't falling.

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                            • fatleg3
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 3602

                              #1964
                              Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                              If LeBron continues to shoot with confidence, I see his shot continuing to fall...

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                              • The 24th Letter
                                ERA
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 39373

                                #1965
                                Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                                Yeah I see at the least one of the Splash Bros getting going tonight...no way they play this way 4 straight. I'll probably miss most of the game but I'm going to check in here first, I can always tell who is up by the amount of replies, lol
                                Last edited by The 24th Letter; 06-10-2016, 12:08 PM.

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