The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

[wco81]

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I don't care bout the 73 wins.

I hate the Seahawks as a 49er fan but I could see the Warriors having a similar trajectory:

Blow a chance to repeat, then next season, not even win the division and have a much earlier exit in the playoffs than expected.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Would there even be any outrage if he were to leave again? I mean he did what he said he would do, which was to bring Cleveland a championship so at this point, he's just playing for his spot among the GOATs.

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Would there even be any outrage if he were to leave again? I mean he did what he said he would do, which was to bring Cleveland a championship so at this point, he's just playing for his spot among the GOAT( team up with more all stars).

I see what you did there

[Gilley]

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http://www.complex.com/sports/2016/06/lebron-james-reveals-secret-motivation-wanting-win-title-cavaliers

Monday morning where he talked about how someone in Miami told LeBron he was making the “biggest mistake of his career” by leaving the Heat in the summer of 2014. LeBron told McMenamin that that is what has fueled him for the last two seasons:
“He wouldn’t name names,” McMenamin said, “but [there was] someone in Miami who told him—someone he trusted, someone he believed in—who said, ‘You know what? You’re making the biggest mistake of your career.’ He said it really hurt him to hear those words, and clearly, tonight, winning the third championship, bringing a championship to Cleveland, his hometown, he made, I think, maybe the best choice of his career.”

It had to be Pat Riley.

[VDusen04]

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Maybe Curry peaked for his career during the regular season, especially the first half, and he won't be that player again.

In 34.5 minutes a night, Stephen Curry averaged 30.3 points, 6.9 assists, and 2.2 steals while hitting over five 3-pointers on .459 percent shooting from deep during the second half of the regular season.

He scored 24 points in 19 minutes of Game 1 of the postseason before spraining his ankle. Then things got weird, missing two games then returning, only to sprain his knee.

Maybe he just flat out collapsed under pressure. Maybe he was left searching for a groove that'd never fully return after missing six playoff games. Maybe he was completely recovered but struggled to trust that he was fully recovered. Maybe he was never fully recovered. Maybe he was still the same player but just ran into two teams who were better at imposing upon him than he was at imposing upon them.

Either way, after doing what he did for 93 percent of this season (while still averaging 25 a night on 40 percent shooting from the arc in the postseason), I feel like it's a little premature and reactionary to claim that Curry's peak is done and gone.

[jeebs9]

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http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/06/cavaliers-las-vegas

[CMH]

Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

In 34.5 minutes a night, Stephen Curry averaged 30.3 points, 6.9 assists, and 2.2 steals while hitting over five 3-pointers on .459 percent shooting from deep during the second half of the regular season.

He scored 24 points in 19 minutes of Game 1 of the postseason before spraining his ankle. Then things got weird, missing two games then returning, only to sprain his knee.

Maybe he just flat out collapsed under pressure. Maybe he was left searching for a groove that'd never fully return after missing six playoff games. Maybe he was completely recovered but struggled to trust that he was fully recovered. Maybe he was never fully recovered. Maybe he was still the same player but just ran into two teams who were better at imposing upon him than he was at imposing upon them.

Either way, after doing what he did for 93 percent of this season (while still averaging 25 a night on 40 percent shooting from the arc in the postseason), I feel like it's a little premature and reactionary to claim that Curry's peak is done and gone.

Curry had some bad games but guys have bad games. And Curry's bad was probably more to do with trying to accomplish too much with the deep ball.

He needs to go back to driving and using that as a weapon to get threes off.

If anything, his play in the Finals proved you can't win by just shooting threes. It gets easier to defend that when nobody is worried you'll drive.

Kevin Love was able to defend Curry because he knew Curry had one thought on his mind so there was no way Love was taking a step back. He rode him and Curry clanked off the side of the rim.

If Curry is going to take 14 three pointers and only 5 shots inside the arc next season, he will fall off the earth and be another shooter remembered as that guy who had a nice two year run.

[Vni]

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Curry needs to mix it up a little bit. He legit looked like he didn't know how you could shoot it from mid range too.

[JazzMan]

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Steph Curry plays bone headed basketball and it finally caught up to him. The behind the back pass along the out of bounds line (seriously??), the random passes into the middle of the paint with only Varejao down there with 3 Cavs ready to pick it off, and the senseless chucking just to try and get three instead of two.

This is why I hope he's the last of his kind. I don't want kids in 5-10 years coming into the league becoming Nick Young's, Jimmer Fredette's, etc. because they are trying to be like Curry.

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Curry needs to mix it up a little bit. He legit looked like he didn't know how you could shoot it from mid range too.

Like I said, i hope its the death of that small ball 3 stuff.

Even Mike D'antoni's first option on offense is to get to the basket.

[cima]

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[dsallupinyaarea]

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We're back on "can't win shooting a bunch of 3s"? Predictable.

[ehh]

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Curry had some bad games but guys have bad games. And Curry's bad was probably more to do with trying to accomplish too much with the deep ball.

He needs to go back to driving and using that as a weapon to get threes off.

Yeah, his game off the dribble and playmaking was non-existent, dude had more turnovers than assists in the series. He was terrible at finishing around the rim as well. So many boneheaded turnovers too. The pressure clearly got to him.

I thought we saw it first in the OKC series, though their bigs weren't lights out defensively, that opposing teams were sitting on Steph's stepback, especially when bigs switched on him in the PnR. We saw it even more in the Finals and Steph never countered, he was hunting the three-ball way too much even though the Cavs were selling out to run him off the line and waiting for his stepback. I guess there are two schools of thought on that...

1) His confidence was shaken and he knew he'd struggle finishing inside the arc.
2) He was in fact injured and couldn't attack the way he wanted to.

I'm not buying the fact that injuries were the reason for his struggles.

[Vni]

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Like I said, i hope its the death of that small ball 3 stuff.

Even Mike D'antoni's first option on offense is to get to the basket.

Thing is they where legit trying to get that three ball going for them all series because once it's going it opens up their whole offense and they become a lot more than a jumpshooting team. But they never could get it going and tryed to force it until the end when it's not how they usually play because more times than not they're making it rain and all of a sudden guys find themselves wide open at the rim.

[jeebs9]

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Curry had some bad games but guys have bad games. And Curry's bad was probably more to do with trying to accomplish too much with the deep ball.

He needs to go back to driving and using that as a weapon to get threes off.

If anything, his play in the Finals proved you can't win by just shooting threes. It gets easier to defend that when nobody is worried you'll drive.

Kevin Love was able to defend Curry because he knew Curry had one thought on his mind so there was no way Love was taking a step back. He rode him and Curry clanked off the side of the rim.

If Curry is going to take 14 three pointers and only 5 shots inside the arc next season, he will fall off the earth and be another shooter remembered as that guy who had a nice two year run.

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Curry needs to mix it up a little bit. He legit looked like he didn't know how you could shoot it from mid range too.

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If they have a video of their misses I'll post it. But man oh man.... All I can tell you is that I'm happy the whole 3 point thing wasn't successful last night.