The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

[CMH]

Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

Small ball is here to stay. At least until it becomes big men playing like small men ball.

https://theringer.com/warriors-2016-nba-finals-legacy-2f7ec9ede70a#.llsd5xu6b

[King_B_Mack]

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LeBron had an all-timer of a series... but c'mon man, lets not act like he was working with chopped liver either. Kyrie averaged 27 a game this series and his scoring kept the Cavs right in the thick of it when LeBron wasn't taking it to the hole. And then you have Tristian Thompson showing out that he actually deserved the max deal, J.R. Smith playing great defense and hitting timely shots, Iman Shumpert (and J.R. & Kyrie) bugging the hell out of Curry/Thompson all series, and then you've got my man Richard Jefferson of all people coming through with a lot of plays to help them over the top. And then you got Kevin Love finally showing up in Game 7 when they needed him to.

Nope. They won and he lead all categories so that ninja did it all himself. You know how this work


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[cima]

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4/6 swatted out of bounds

[VDusen04]

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Small ball is here to stay. At least until it becomes big men playing like small men ball.

https://theringer.com/warriors-2016-...70a#.llsd5xu6b

Solid piece.

That’s the ultimate legacy of these Warriors, whether they win three more titles or never win another. They took what Don Nelson and Mike D’Antoni started to its logical conclusion, augmenting the greatest shooter of all time with lineups composed of 6-foot-7 wings who blitzed the rest of the NBA with a combination of shooting talent and defensive malleability. They have forced the league to adapt to them, and the result has been some amazing basketball over the past few weeks. Early Vegas odds have the Warriors as early favorites to win the title next season. If they’re going to pull it off, they’ll have to be better than this year’s iteration. Let that thought sink in. We’re in for an incredible future.

[The 24th Letter]

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Don't forget about this too:



Yall ain't woke though

[cima]

Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

Don't forget about this too:



Yall ain't woke though

I like my Father's day/oraCLE/three theory better personally.

[The 24th Letter]

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[ojandpizza]

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Nope. They won and he lead all categories so that ninja did it all himself. You know how this work


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You're finally coming around!


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[tripleh1142]

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Not only did Curry get into the paint with more frequency in the regular season, he finished at an elite rate (statistics provided a page or two ago - also here: http://thesportsquotient.com/nba/201...ates-the-paint).

It just is what it is. Maybe he was too tired to drive. Maybe he fell in love with hero threes. But I know we've discussed before (and I forgot how much Warriors basketball you said you actually watched in the regular season) but the difference in his approach throughout much of the postseason seemed very apparent.

This was the biggest difference in the regular season and playoffs. I watched a ton of Warrior games this year and Curry just looked different in the playoffs. Impossible to say if he was hurt or pressure got to him but he looked like a different player. He didn't look to drive in the playoffs like he did the regular season. They went from a drive and kick for threes approach to a forced threes no matter the quality of the shot approach. I think that is ultimately what cost them the title.

[ehh]

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Small ball is here to stay. At least until it becomes big men playing like small men ball.

https://theringer.com/warriors-2016-...70a#.llsd5xu6b

For a while, at least. It won't be a long term thing. Eventually the league will shift again, there will be more rule changes - maybe a deeper 3PT line or a 4PT line - and surely more physicality eventually. The game won't stay the same, it never has and it never will. I'm sure defensive rules and zones/illegal D will be altered at some point down the road. Ultimately, it's up to the league and their rules and how they want their game to be played.

For now though, great centers of the NBA and running backs in the NFL are two peas in a pod. The rules have been softened to make it so much easier for guards, just as the NFL has made it easier on QB's and receivers.


Also don't fully agree with the notion that Cleveland mimicked GSW and that's why they won.

Smallball =/= GSW-ball.

Exploiting and adjusting to match ups has always been an enormous part of the NBA. All CLE did was adjust and match up properly with GSW. Their style of play didn't morph into a GSW wannabe though. Cleveland still did a good amount of iso'ing with both Kyrie and LeBron. They didn't let Draymond have the enormous mismatch he's used to and stuck LeBron on him. On top of that, you still needed other-worldly performances (relatively speaking) on the defensive end from Kyrie and JR.

[cima]

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Sheed paid for those though. That was back when genuine replica belts were first becoming a thing. WWE didn't even sell those at the time it was through some other company. He was ahead of his time on that one lol


But LOL at the notion that the wrestling shirts awesome coincidence. Always is with Bron. Somehow that dude is always in the wrong place at the wrong time. Hasn't worn a wrestling Tee all year. Is down 1-3 in the Finals with the whole sports world calling the Cavs done and questioning his legacy again and he strolls in wearing an Undertaker shirt one day and an Ultimate "Warrior" shirt the day after completing the comeback on a team called the Warriors cause those just happened to be the shirts he packed in his road bag. Poor guy


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So what does Kevin Love's Austin 3:16 shirt mean then?

[The15thunter]

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So what does Kevin Love's Austin 3:16 shirt mean then?

that he just whipped your ***.

[cima]

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that he just whipped your ***.

I mean I get the reference but that's ironic coming from K Love in this series, lol. That defense at the end tho!

[lilteapot]

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I wonder, if you're a player, if complacency ever sets in once you win a chip...obviously you still want to win more but the pressure and maybe a sense of urgency, is that still there?

Lebron...what else does he have to accomplish? I'm sure he wants to win and win and win, but I don't think that he would be too beat up if he doesnt win another chip after this one...this is the one he really wanted.

[ehh]

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I wonder, if you're a player, if complacency ever sets in once you win a chip...obviously you still want to win more but the pressure and maybe a sense of urgency, is that still there?

Sure, and players have handled it differently. That's why MJ first retired in '93. Others get fat/out of shape/lazy (Shaq). In general though, as a fierce competitor that most of the greats are, the fire never goes away.