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  • vtcha
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    • Nov 2009
    • 2180

    #5596
    Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

    Now that LeBron has accomplished his goal, am I the only one that wants to see SuperFriends 2.0 (LeBron, D-Wade, Melo & CP3)?

    I don't care which team. Heck even Philly could pull it off with all their enticing assets.

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    • The JareBear
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      • Jul 2010
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      #5597
      Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

      Maybe I'm just a fanboy but I feel like it was pretty clear that Steph got hurt against Houston and wasn't the same after that. He wasn't good against OKC, he wasn't good against Cleveland.

      I think there is some hyperbole in the "Steph is a choke artist fraud" talk. Not saying I saw that on here. Just in the Internet, in general.

      Cleveland was the smarter, stronger, healthier, just overall better team yesterday's in my opinion of course
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      • lilteapot
        MVP
        • Aug 2013
        • 4550

        #5598
        Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

        Originally posted by The JareBear
        Maybe I'm just a fanboy but I feel like it was pretty clear that Steph got hurt against Houston and wasn't the same after that. He wasn't good against OKC, he wasn't good against Cleveland.

        I think there is some hyperbole in the "Steph is a choke artist fraud" talk. Not saying I saw that on here. Just in the Internet, in general.

        Cleveland was the smarter, stronger, healthier, just overall better team yesterday's in my opinion of course
        I mean, he had a great comeback game against the Blazers in Game 5 (I think?)

        But yeah it might have been bothering him, he didn't look as quick. But I don't think it was hindering him that much.

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        • ojandpizza
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2011
          • 29807

          #5599
          Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

          Calling a player who plays the biggest role in a team making the finals and then leading them in scoring, despite his other struggles, a choke artist will never be a fair statement to make.


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          • King_B_Mack
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            • Jan 2009
            • 24450

            #5600
            Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

            Originally posted by lilteapot
            I mean, he had a great comeback game against the Blazers in Game 5 (I think?)



            But yeah it might have been bothering him, he didn't look as quick. But I don't think it was hindering him that much.


            I mean dude didn't attack the basket at all really against Cleveland or OKC for that matter outside of a drive here or there. That's completely different to what he was doing all year and I think there's a little more to it than just the other team stopped him. He had plenty of opportunity to blow by guys and he just never did it. That high kiss off the glass layup he perfected during the year, don't think we saw it once after he got hurt in the playoffs. It was definitely hindering him, he just did a piss poor job of doing the things he wasn't hindered doing better to compensate.


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            • lilteapot
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              • Aug 2013
              • 4550

              #5601
              Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

              Originally posted by King_B_Mack
              I mean dude didn't attack the basket at all really against Cleveland or OKC for that matter outside of a drive here or there. That's completely different to what he was doing all year and I think there's a little more to it than just the other team stopped him. He had plenty of opportunity to blow by guys and he just never did it. That high kiss off the glass layup he perfected during the year, don't think we saw it once after he got hurt in the playoffs. It was definitely hindering him, he just did a piss poor job of doing the things he wasn't hindered doing better to compensate.


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              I think part of it was the injury but a bigger part was just poor decision making. No reason, for example, last night for him to not blow by Kevin Love instead of settling for a 3. I think he searched for the highlight play a little too much and got caught up in the moment.

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              • ojandpizza
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 29807

                #5602
                Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                Nah it was all injury, and the rigged league, and the Cavs being in the East, don't any of you pay attention.


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                • BleacherBum2310
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                  • Aug 2010
                  • 7107

                  #5603
                  Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                  Originally posted by The JareBear
                  Maybe I'm just a fanboy but I feel like it was pretty clear that Steph got hurt against Houston and wasn't the same after that. He wasn't good against OKC, he wasn't good against Cleveland.

                  I think there is some hyperbole in the "Steph is a choke artist fraud" talk. Not saying I saw that on here. Just in the Internet, in general.

                  Cleveland was the smarter, stronger, healthier, just overall better team yesterday's in my opinion of course
                  Yup and even in the games he performed well in like Portland & OKC game 7. He still looked a little off. and people were saying that at the time...Cleveland that was x10.

                  in this last series he was basically just a 3 Point shooter and a turnover machine. He had to play better than that and he didn't.
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                  • 23
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                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469

                    #5604
                    Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                    Originally posted by The JareBear
                    Maybe I'm just a fanboy but I feel like it was pretty clear that Steph got hurt against Houston and wasn't the same after that. He wasn't good against OKC, he wasn't good against Cleveland.

                    I think there is some hyperbole in the "Steph is a choke artist fraud" talk. Not saying I saw that on here. Just in the Internet, in general.

                    Cleveland was the smarter, stronger, healthier, just overall better team yesterday's in my opinion of course
                    So does that mean the Warriors only won last year because everyone else was hurt?

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                    • King_B_Mack
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                      • Jan 2009
                      • 24450

                      #5605
                      Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                      Originally posted by lilteapot
                      I think part of it was the injury but a bigger part was just poor decision making. No reason, for example, last night for him to not blow by Kevin Love instead of settling for a 3. I think he searched for the highlight play a little too much and got caught up in the moment.


                      That's what I'm saying though I don't think he could blow by Love last night. In that particular situation they were down 3 so I think he was looking for the tie there and just made a poor decision not playing for the quick score given the time on the clock. But that wasn't the first time in the series and the playoffs where he didn't just take a guy and get into the lane for a floater or that high arching layup he's mastered. Sometimes just on bad decision making and other times because he just couldn't I don't think. Steph is a smarter player than what we saw from him in the last two series'


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                      • ojandpizza
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 29807

                        #5606
                        Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                        Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                        That's what I'm saying though I don't think he could blow by Love last night. L


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                        LMAO... Ok King, ok.



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                        • BleacherBum2310
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                          • Aug 2010
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                          #5607
                          Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                          couldn't find it but i think this stat illustrates it the best

                          Curry shot 66% in the restricted area this season, but 52.2% in postseason + 47.8% in the Finals
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                          • Blzer
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                            #5608
                            Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                            The thing I don't get is why Curry didn't play all twelve minutes of the final quarter. I know he was doing it during the regular season and coming in around the 6:00 mark, but this is the last game of the year. I'm not saying he would have made the difference because he obviously hasn't been the same player since the injury, but that's partly the point. The injury just might have been too much for him that he couldn't be there on the court the entire time.
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                            • DieHardYankee26
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                              • Feb 2008
                              • 10178

                              #5609
                              Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                              Originally posted by BleacherBum2310
                              couldn't find it but i think this stat illustrates it the best
                              LeBron breathing down your neck everytime you start to gather probably affects that as well.
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                              • bigeastbumrush
                                My Momma's Son
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 19245

                                #5610
                                Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                                Originally posted by The JareBear
                                Maybe I'm just a fanboy but I feel like it was pretty clear that Steph got hurt against Houston and wasn't the same after that. He wasn't good against OKC, he wasn't good against Cleveland.

                                I think there is some hyperbole in the "Steph is a choke artist fraud" talk. Not saying I saw that on here. Just in the Internet, in general.

                                Cleveland was the smarter, stronger, healthier, just overall better team yesterday's in my opinion of course
                                Every player is dealing with some sort of injury 90+ games into a season. Not everyone is going to be listed on the injury report.

                                Curry's ankle may have been gimpy but the reality is that Kyrie and LeBron hurt his heart.

                                Curry basically got chumped after a few blocks, stare downs and kill shots. Cleveland's perimeter defense hadn't gotten enough credit in the series. They left Thompson and Draymond wide open on too many occasions but "Chef" was constantly getting chipped and bumped coming around screens. I've never seen Curry on the floor so often.

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