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  • King_B_Mack
    All Star
    • Jan 2009
    • 24450

    #2986
    Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

    I see Woj is going through the ESPN initiation process here.

    Fan easier, fan faster and fan better with Bleacher Report. Keep up with the latest storylines, expert analysis, highlights and scores for all your favorite sports.





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    • young22
      Banned
      • Feb 2017
      • 2083

      #2987
      Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by King_B_Mack
      I didn't act like he wasn't a good player, but I am challenging the assertion that you guys have been treating the dude like he is more than what he is. He is a role player. A solid piece to add to a contending team. Trying to pretend like having to give up Crowder and two of the 50 thousand picks Danny Ainge is hoarding while asking for a team to send back their best player (Butler, George, a high first round pick etc) to a rebuilding team is somehow too much is overvaluing him. He's a 3 and D guy who's still going to get torched by the elite players in the league that he guards while being the third or fourth option on offense that's friggin 27 years old so by the time your team is done with their rebuild he'll either bail on you at the end of that "coveted" contract (which only lasts another 3 years) or he'll be turning 30 looking for one big payday for his career and about to head into the down swing of his career.


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      Celtics fans are honestly the biggest homers out of any fan base. I understand gassing up your guys, but to say Crowder isn't a role player is beyond silly.

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      • z Revis
        Hall Of Fame
        • Oct 2008
        • 13639

        #2988
        Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

        There's a reason I wasn't happy with that Crowder/Smart and late 1st round pick Boston apparently threw at us for PG. Not that we got a good offer either way lol but at least we got Sabonis who has some potential.


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        • roadman
          *ll St*r
          • Aug 2003
          • 26339

          #2989
          Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

          Not shaking in my boots, yet.

          The FO needs to get rid of the bad contracts on the team. Mirz, Henson, maybe Monroe in a midseason trade.

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          • ehh
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 28962

            #2990
            Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

            Knicks better not give up more than 2nd rounder if they want Smart. I hate that dude's game.
            "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

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            • areobee401
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2006
              • 16771

              #2991
              Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by King_B_Mack
              I didn't act like he wasn't a good player, but I am challenging the assertion that you guys have been treating the dude like he is more than what he is. He is a role player. A solid piece to add to a contending team. Trying to pretend like having to give up Crowder and two of the 50 thousand picks Danny Ainge is hoarding while asking for a team to send back their best player (Butler, George, a high first round pick etc) to a rebuilding team is somehow too much is overvaluing him. He's a 3 and D guy who's still going to get torched by the elite players in the league that he guards while being the third or fourth option on offense that's friggin 27 years old so by the time your team is done with their rebuild he'll either bail on you at the end of that "coveted" contract (which only lasts another 3 years) or he'll be turning 30 looking for one big payday for his career and about to head into the down swing of his career.


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              The package for George was said to be more than that. But that wouldn't fit the picture you're trying to paint, so by all means don't let that stop you.
              http://twitter.com/smittyroberts

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              • Fresh Tendrils
                Strike Hard and Fade Away
                • Jul 2002
                • 36131

                #2992
                Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                I see Woj is going through the ESPN initiation process here.

                Fan easier, fan faster and fan better with Bleacher Report. Keep up with the latest storylines, expert analysis, highlights and scores for all your favorite sports.





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                No ****, Woj.



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                • ricky24
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 4888

                  #2993
                  Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by young22
                  Celtics fans are honestly the biggest homers out of any fan base. I understand gassing up your guys, but to say Crowder isn't a role player is beyond silly.

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                  Who is saying crowder is not a role player? He's got a great contract. Thats where his value is. You going skip bayless and thinking we think Gordon is the next Larry too?

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                  • ProfessaPackMan
                    Bamma
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 63852

                    #2994
                    Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                    Did the Cavs hire a GM yet?

                    I see Jefferson is coming back for another year. I hope they're not content in bringing back the same exact squad again.


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                    • cima
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 13478

                      #2995
                      Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                      Did the Cavs hire a GM yet?

                      I see Jefferson is coming back for another year. I hope they're not content in bringing back the same exact squad again.


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                      I know you like to give Deron ****, but it's pretty amazing that they signed a PG (Calderon) who's actually worse than him. Deron must be asking for too much


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                      • Fresh Tendrils
                        Strike Hard and Fade Away
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 36131

                        #2996
                        Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                        Did the Cavs hire a GM yet?

                        I see Jefferson is coming back for another year. I hope they're not content in bringing back the same exact squad again.


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                        Supposedly Chauncey was offered half of the average salary of a new GM.



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                        • wco81
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 3305

                          #2997
                          Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by roadman
                          Not shaking in my boots, yet.

                          The FO needs to get rid of the bad contracts on the team. Mirz, Henson, maybe Monroe in a midseason trade.
                          Didn't they just get a new arena?

                          If they want to keep it filled, better pay him.

                          Good chance he'll be eligible for the super Max, if he continues to improve.

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                          • roadman
                            *ll St*r
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 26339

                            #2998
                            Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by wco81
                            Didn't they just get a new arena?

                            If they want to keep it filled, better pay him.

                            Good chance he'll be eligible for the super Max, if he continues to improve.
                            Only year one in his max he signed last year.

                            Arena will be ready next season.

                            Not worried about the Greek Freak.

                            More worried about JKidd and FO building team around Greek Freak.

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                            • areobee401
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 16771

                              #2999
                              Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                              Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                              Supposedly Chauncey was offered half of the average salary of a new GM.
                              Scumbag move.
                              http://twitter.com/smittyroberts

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                              • young22
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2017
                                • 2083

                                #3000
                                Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                                Originally posted by ricky24
                                Who is saying crowder is not a role player? He's got a great contract. Thats where his value is. You going skip bayless and thinking we think Gordon is the next Larry too?
                                Y'all talking up Jae like he's a 2nd or 3rd option on a contender. He's a solid 3 and D guy, but he's not a good enough defender to bother elite players, and he can't really create offense. He's a good role player. As far as GH, a lot of Celtics fans are acting like he's this missing piece that's gonna take y'all to the Finals. I've seen a few guys on Twitter say they have someone to match up with LeBron, it's hilarious.

                                Back to Jae, sure he has a great contract, but he doesn't have much trade value. He's not a building block for a bad team, isn't getting anyone over the edge, and contenders aren't going to be willing trade much for him.

                                If he isn't involved in this Hayward sign and trade I'm hearing about I don't think anyone will trade much for him.

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