2018-19 Transaction Thread

[Vni]

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But he's saying he won't sign with them.

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And, Tatum > Entire lakers roster.

[ojandpizza]

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From an NOLA reporter:

Fletcher Mackel
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Right now Dell Demps (and Danny Ferry, who’s very much involved in all aspects of Anthony Davis trade situation) are NOT taking Lakers offer @BA_Turner first reported.

Some in Pels organization want LA deal.

I’m told NOLA believes it can get Tatum this summer.

But he's saying he won't sign with them.

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Ehh I don't buy this at all.. They may very well wait until after the season, which I've felt they would/should all along, but ain't no way they are backing out on two firsts, all 3 of the young players, and a chance out of the Hill contract to get Tatum and take on a contract like Gordon Haywards...

Would have to be a Tatum, Brown, Smart type of trade which maybe makes sense for the Pelicans, but not for Boston. Boston would trot out Kyrie (maybe), Hayward, Davis, Horford and what?.. All with the chance of Davis walking on them? I don't see it.

[TMagic]

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^^This was every Knicks fan prior to them acquiring Melo from the Nuggets. I, and others, found ourselves saying "How could you give up on Danilo Galinari so soon?"

Man..ain't no rebuilding with the Lakers. There have too many corporate interests to sit around watching the draft lottery every year. Kobe carried them to a title without Shaq and outside of Pau..a bunch of throw-ins.

Time to accept reality. The biggest free agent ever wanted to sign with your team. Embrace it. Also accept the fact that Lonzo is not that good. Lonzo, Kuz, and Ingr..well...have potential to grow and develop..just not on the Lakers' timetable. It is what it is.

There aren't that many good players in the league and you have one of the best wanting to join your team. Could be much, much worse.

If anything, you would think as a Knick fan you should understand. What did signing Melo amount to during his time there and since he left?

And I feel like you are looking at this through a very narrow lens. Maybe we all are. And how we all view it depends on how we define "success"

Signing LeBron this year does not lead to a championship. We don't beat GS. Not this year. And more than likely not next year either. And one can only assume that our chances for a championship will decline as LeBron gets older.

But in the short term, signing him is cool. We will win more games. More butts will be in seats and more interest will come our way from the media. And if that's what we are defining as success then yea. Good signing.

But most fans want to hang up another banner. That's how most would define success. A team that is competitive and in the "conversation" every year. And that's not going to happen now. And when LeBron leaves, the chances of that happening (given his history) will be extremely bleak for years if we ship away all our youth and give away future firsts on top of it.

And just understand that the LeBron signing is not the problem in of itself. It's the stuff that comes with it. If LeBron signs here and we are just patient with the team and look to add a few key pieces this year and the next, or make a big signing and look to make a run. LeBron just does his time, he helps the young guys get better, and the team stays the course, that's all good.

Its just the mortgaging of our future, if it happens, that I'm irritated with. Because it doesn't HAVE to be part of that process. We can have LeBron and another star and a future. They don't have to be mutually exclusive.

[jeremym480]

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From an NOLA reporter:

Some in Pels organization want LA deal.

Yeah, Dell Demps and the ones who aren't going to have a job pretty soon.

But he's saying he won't sign with them.

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Ainge doesn't care. KG said the same stuff and KG also had a house in LA just like AD but we see how all of that worked out.

Ainge would be betting pairing AD and Kyrie and if they make the Finals then AD won't leave. Plus, the Lakers are not going to punt on getting another star or two to play with LeBron in the offseason. And if they do, then they may not have the cap space by then. If they can get AD then and he thinks it's better to go play with 36-year old LeBron, then go for it.

And, Tatum > Entire lakers roster.

A shot at Tatum or Zion is too good to pass up. If LA is willing to take on SoLo then it becomes more tempting but that deal will still be there in the offseason, no need to rush.

[cima]

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Agree with everything but the AD isn't a once in a lifetime guy even then he's always injured.

I knew once the LeBron signing was made official what was going to follow and my viewership of our games went way down this year due to getting rdr2 late and knowing a bulk of the roster could be changing just like that.

Idk why actual LA fans keep getting lumped in with LeBron fans either. We don't overrate our youth but I'd prefer our youth, draft picks and cap space to fill in stars around the young core over what comes with LeBron. We just got out of being stuck not too long ago and by the time Bron's contract is up or he's ready to retire we'll be stuck again ala Miami/Cavs a bunch of ****ty Bron guy contracts with no cap space and draft picks for a while

I'm sorry but yes you guys do, everyone overrates their own talent, like that guy last year who thought the Cavs could win with the additions of Clarkson, Hood, and Nance.

Like 24 said, you got one of the GOATs WANTING to be on your team and he's attracting another top 5 player. You should want those 2 and the guys that will come to play with them 10/10 times then having rolled with Ball, Ingram, and Kuzma then hoping for someone to join them.

If this move is made, it's clearly with next year and beyond in mind...because gutting the whole team for this year leaves them with little. I mean if they trade Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Beasley, Lance, and Rondo to get AD and Hill, they're looking at:

PG- ??, Bonga?
SG- KCP, Hart, Svi
SF- Bron, Svi, Melo?
PF- AD, Jonathan Williams?
C- McGee, Chandler, Zubac

Leaves them with serious question marks. I think it's crazy to trade both of your point guards. They've gotta have something planned in the buyout market.

[Majingir]

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The Knicks are like EA Sports.

I'll believe it when I see it

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Ehh I don't buy this at all.. They may very well wait until after the season, which I've felt they would/should all along, but ain't no way they are backing out on two firsts, all 3 of the young players, and a chance out of the Hill contract to get Tatum and take on a contract like Gordon Haywards...



Would have to be a Tatum, Brown, Smart type of trade which maybe makes sense for the Pelicans, but not for Boston. Boston would trot out Kyrie (maybe), Hayward, Davis, Horford and what?.. All with the chance of Davis walking on them? I don't see it.

Boston can offer Tatum (a better individual chip than anything the Lakers have) and better picks than the Lakers have. And then whatever it takes to match salaries, if that’s Smart, a Rozier sign and trade, whatever.

If Ainge really wants to go for it, Boston can pretty easily beat any Lakers offer IMO


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[roadman]

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Heck, I'm just flattered that a player of the caliber of AD added the Bucks to his list, fortunately or unfortunately, we don't have the assets to trade for AD.

Still...............................

[23]

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Its just as easy to get stuck in "We're going to get a high pick, develop our players, clear 2-3 max spots (to pay Dengs and Mosgovs)" hell over and over again....

The Lakers have had one of the worst winning % in.....sports the last 4-5 years?

I see it as tangible progress that you've 1) Actually got a superstar back in LA 2) Have now attracted another due to that fact...its now more reality than the Laker mystique they've been trying to sell the last couple of years.

better than treadmilling man.

Different management

However they couldve easily had a Jason Tatum and nobody would be batting an eyeball right now.

Its the difference between smart picks and dumb ones. However I don't see how you expect growth of young players when the constant message of confusion between develop and win now is put out there.

Look at DAngelo Russell. Dudes 1st year was wasted in LA so Kobe could chuck up whatever bricks he wanted and leave smiling at the crowd.

Now the dude is an all star. Times change and while I get no accepting mediocrity, you can't always have the foot pedal to the medal all of the time.

[jeremym480]

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Heck, I'm just flattered that a player of the caliber of AD added the Bucks to his list, fortunately or unfortunately, we don't have the assets to trade for AD.

Still...............................

Milwaukee is just being used as the token small market team so Rich Paul can go "see it's not all about a big market, AD is totally okay with going to another small market team".

[23]

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Lebron be like

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[cam21224]

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I'm sorry but yes you guys do, everyone overrates their own talent, like that guy last year who thought the Cavs could win with the additions of Clarkson, Hood, and Nance.

Like 24 said, you got one of the GOATs WANTING to be on your team and he's attracting another top 5 player. You should want those 2 and the guys that will come to play with them 10/10 times then having rolled with Ball, Ingram, and Kuzma then hoping for someone to join them.

I've seen more LeBron fans than actual Laker fans here overrating the young guys as if that's going to help land Davis.

Please point out actual Laker fans overrating these guys ON here I'll gladly eat crow.

As for the rest of your post no doubt about you do it but with your boy's track record it has a potential to get real ugly at the end of this. He's older and getting injured now and Davis is often injured. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic and just seeing all that can go wrong if this even goes down.

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Fletcher Mackel

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Pelicans source:

Right now Dell Demps (and Danny Ferry, who’s very much involved in all aspects of Anthony Davis trade situation) are NOT taking Lakers offer @BA_Turner first reported.

Some in Pels organization want LA deal.

I’m told NOLA believes it can get Tatum this summer.

Why is Danny considering giving up Tatum?

To give Gordan Hayward more playing time?

[cima]

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I've seen more LeBron fans than actual Laker fans here overrating the young guys as if that's going to help land Davis.

Please point out actual Laker fans overrating these guys ON here I'll gladly eat crow.

As for the rest of your post no doubt about you do it but with your boy's track record it has a potential to get real ugly at the end of this. He's older and getting injured now and Davis is often injured. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic and just seeing all that can go wrong if this even goes down.

Bron had one injury, I wouldn't label him as someone who is "getting injured now" just yet.

I get the hesitance with AD too but he's a dude who can give you 30/15 on any night AND dominates on defense. Not to mention once LeBron is gone, you still got AD and then you clear a huge max contract off the books. You're more likely to be fine than doomed like MIA/CLE. Hell the only reason Miami was doomed is because Wade broke down and Bosh suffered a freak career-ending injury. Cleveland too could've been better off if they didn't trade Kyrie. That was just Cleveland's FO being stupid.

It's obviously a big risk because if AD or Bron goes down, it's all over. But with those two on the same team, that's a scary PnR combo and you know they'll find a way to surround themselves with vets. Maybe not this year but next year for sure.

[Majingir]

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Milwaukee is just being used as the token small market team so Rich Paul can go "see it's not all about a big market, AD is totally okay with going to another small market team".

Ya, I wouldn't be surprised by that at all. NY and Boston were only east sides I heard as serious possibilities. Lakers in the west.

Now suddenly we hear Bucks(small market team on top the east) and Clippers (LA team that's not the Lakers) in this? Sounds too convenient and fishy those teams specifically got mentioned.