2019 Offseason Thread

[ojandpizza]

2019 Offseason Thread

If what Woj said was true and all they need to do was move those 3 contracts I would think they could get to the 32 mil easily. Theoretically all they would have to do is convince the Hawks to take them and by giving them cash considerations the Hawks could probably actually make money to agree and waive the other two all while being gifted Wagner and possibly a 2nd round pick for free.. since the trade is already become a 3-team trade anyways, I think the likelihood of an agreement along those lines being reached is very probable.. I think this is more so one of the following scenarios..

1.) the Lakers want to spread the money over multiple assets. In this case losing Wagner for nothing is a waste, because he would be a valuable roster addition for them in the case that they aren’t putting all their money into one player and signing minimum guys after. Also in the scenario that they sign multiple guys, they might not even need the full 32 mil.

2.) The Lakers can get max money but never had the intentions of picking Kyrie, Kemba, Jimmy, over DLo anyways. Or none of the previous mentioned have LAL as their first choice either. Kemba rumor came out literally seconds after Davis was traded, which seemed like a media provoked thing from the start. Jimmy and Kyrie both have pretty large question marks on if they are the type to willing be a number 3.. Kawhi was always a long shot. DLo is the only player that really fits the Davis timeline. Plus he and LeBron are close as well.

3.) There is no interest in DLo and all these “rumors” are because he was asked if he would go back and responded with “if the money is right”.. seems like Windhorst is the one dropping a lot of this Laker stuff initially, and he has no creditability on this stuff regardless. He was on TV the other day spewing out stuff about the Lakers could trade multiple picks to get DLo.. dude is a free agent. He’s also leaking that the Lakers want Lopez, D Jordan, and Vucevic.. and I believe there is 0% chance they spend all their free money on Vucevic lol.




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[ojandpizza]

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Also it should be noted that next season, regardless of if they get the 3rd start or round out the roster this season, will be the year they really make a big improvement to this new core. Woj said something about them exceeding the cap this year by adding a 2nd round pick, if that’s true they will have a full MLE and the bi-annual they didn’t use last year. If it’s not true they still have the cap room MLE this season.

But next year when they sign Davis they will be over the cap but likely under the tax. Meaning next off-season they do have the full MLE even if they get it and use it this year.. meaning that whatever they come up with this year that next off-season they’ll be able to add a 10mil guy who wants to try and win a ring to the roster next season.. could be huge depending on what vets are available.

Keep in mine MLE contracts can also be split, and I believe also combined. So using both together they could land a 13 a year player, or split the full with two 5 mil guys plus the bi-annual, which lets them add potentially 3 solid players even though they only have room for minimum contracts otherwise.


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[King_B_Mack]

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If what Woj said was true and all they need to do was move those 3 contracts I would think they could get to the 32 mil easily. Theoretically all they would have to do is convince the Hawks to take them and by giving them cash considerations the Hawks could probably actually make money to agree and waive the other two all while being gifted Wagner and possibly a 2nd round pick for free.. since the trade is already become a 3-team trade anyways, I think the likelihood of an agreement along those lines being reached is very probable.. I think this is more so one of the following scenarios..

1.) the Lakers want to spread the money over multiple assets. In this case losing Wagner for nothing is a waste, because he would be a valuable roster addition for them in the case that they aren’t putting all their money into one player and signing minimum guys after. Also in the scenario that they sign multiple guys, they might not even need the full 32 mil.

2.) The Lakers can get max money but never had the intentions of picking Kyrie, Kemba, Jimmy, over DLo anyways. Or none of the previous mentioned have LAL as their first choice either. Kemba rumor came out literally seconds after Davis was traded, which seemed like a media provoked thing from the start. Jimmy and Kyrie both have pretty large question marks on if they are the type to willing be a number 3.. Kawhi was always a long shot. DLo is the only player that really fits the Davis timeline. Plus he and LeBron are close as well.

3.) There is no interest in DLo and all these “rumors” are because he was asked if he would go back and responded with “if the money is right”.. seems like Windhorst is the one dropping a lot of this Laker stuff initially, and he has no creditability on this stuff regardless. He was on TV the other day spewing out stuff about the Lakers could trade multiple picks to get DLo.. dude is a free agent. He’s also leaking that the Lakers want Lopez, D Jordan, and Vucevic.. and I believe there is 0% chance they spend all their free money on Vucevic lol.




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Not to defend Windy, but you’re aware D’Lo is a restricted free agent right? In theory the Nets could not renounce his rights until they know they’re getting 2 max guys leaving the option to match any offer he gets open until they’re confident or not that they can get his replacement. So there is a scenario where if the Lakers want him Nets can work out a sign and trade


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[ojandpizza]

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Not to defend Windy, but you’re aware D’Lo is a restricted free agent right? In theory the Nets could not renounce his rights until they know they’re getting 2 max guys leaving the option to match any offer he gets open until they’re confident or not that they can get his replacement. So there is a scenario where if the Lakers want him Nets can work out a sign and trade


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True, I was basing that on the assumption that Kyrie is in and DLo is out.


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[illwill10]

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I do feel like most of the "max" player stuff is media driven. Like you said, I don't see Jimmy or Kyrie wanting to be the third option or taking less money. Kemba name was brought up mainly because of their need for a PG and that he is a max player. Kawhi was always a long shot. DLo is just because of how much he improved and the possibility of Nets signing Kyrie. If Kyrie doesn't sign with Nets, I see Nets fully committing to resigning. If KD or Klay wasn't injured, we would be hearing links to the Lakers. Especially Klay because of Space Jam 2 lol. Now I do believe they will try their best to land one of those players, but filling out roster is definitely in the cards for them. They won't need 32 mill max to fill out roster especially if players are willing to take less.


I think Mavericks are a good option for DLo. His options has to be Nets, Celtics, Pacers, Lakers. I saw a report Suns aren't going after him but who knows. He seems to be a good fit for the Mavs. Him being a combo guard complements Luka. They could have some firepower with him, Luka, and KP. If the can get a center who can defend and rebound and a wing defender, that is a solid team

[georgiafan]

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A few small notes from the hawks side we have already received the max amount of cash for this and that doesn’t start Over till I think July 6th. I’m not sure the exact details of that but I think it’s the same thing as the cash we got for trading the 2 2nds.

Things can change but for now atlanta has 14 contracts with only 1 of them non guaranteed. We don’t have a backup PG to Trae so you have to assume a more vet guy will be brought in instead bonga to back up Trae.

Atlanta does have 14 million in cap space but with the above said you would be better off using that for a backup PG on a 1 year contract or taking on a bad contract for a real draft pick then taking on the lakers guys

If what Woj said was true and all they need to do was move those 3 contracts I would think they could get to the 32 mil easily. Theoretically all they would have to do is convince the Hawks to take them and by giving them cash considerations the Hawks could probably actually make money to agree and waive the other two all while being gifted Wagner and possibly a 2nd round pick for free.. since the trade is already become a 3-team trade anyways, I think the likelihood of an agreement along those lines being reached is very probable.. I think this is more so one of the following scenarios..


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[CaVsFaN2273]

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Willie Cauley-Stein wants out of Sacramento

https://twitter.com/JandersonSacBee/status/1142622481762570241

[ojandpizza]

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WCS had a big year last year.. would be a good pickup for someone.


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[Boltman]

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All them Sac Fan Twitter responses were rough lol.

Pretty much offering to drive him to the airport, saying just cut him outright lol. Good riddance is pretty much the theme. Brutal lol.

[King_B_Mack]

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True, I was basing that on the assumption that Kyrie is in and DLo is out.


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Yeah I kinda get that, but at the same time you’re calling the guy out for no credibility and saying he’s “spewing out” this thing about the Lakers trading draft picks when you’re doing exactly what you guys claim to hate about the sports media so much. That would be a clickbait headline if you were a publication/website because he was talking about something that can realistically happen and you’re framing it as if he was just making up garbage that he didn’t know based on YOUR ASSUMPTION that another very realistic scenario might happen. It’s a fluid situation and things can change and you yourself even said in your post that he said it COULD happen. He did his job and it didn’t sound like anything nefarious was going on behind it from the info I’ve gleamed from you. Pighorst has a lot you can rip on him for, I don’t think this is one of those.


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[OSUFan_88]

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Willie Cauley-Stein wants out of Sacramento

https://twitter.com/JandersonSacBee/...22481762570241

[ojandpizza]

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Yeah I kinda get that, but at the same time you’re calling the guy out for no credibility and saying he’s “spewing out” this thing about the Lakers trading draft picks when you’re doing exactly what you guys claim to hate about the sports media so much. That would be a clickbait headline if you were a publication/website because he was talking about something that can realistically happen and you’re framing it as if he was just making up garbage that he didn’t know based on YOUR ASSUMPTION that another very realistic scenario might happen. It’s a fluid situation and things can change and you yourself even said in your post that he said it COULD happen. He did his job and it didn’t sound like anything nefarious was going on behind it from the info I’ve gleamed from you. Pighorst has a lot you can rip on him for, I don’t think this is one of those.


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I'm not necessarily trying to rip on Windhorst, or even say that him saying that is the sole reason he isn't creditable. I more so meant that any of these rumors that originated from something he said "could happen", "might happen" on television ins't really a creditable rumor. Technically they could do a sign and trade, though the Lakers would have no reason to do that unless the Nets took back the 3 contracts they want to ditch, but just because that was said on TV doesn't mean that the Lakers wanting DLo is even an actual thing. That was more so the point of that part of my post, to suggest that nobody even knows if the Lakers even want DLo, all these rumors stemmed from Windhorst saying something any of us could say, and DLo responding to a question with "if the money is right".

[WarMMA]

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Willie Cauley-Stein wants out of Sacramento

https://twitter.com/JandersonSacBee/...22481762570241

Hmm...interesting.

[ojandpizza]

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So how long until the Willie Cauley-Stein to the Lakers/Knicks rumors start? As early as Monday morning television? lol

[jfsolo]

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So how long until the Willie Cauley-Stein to the Lakers/Knicks rumors start? As early as Monday morning television? lol

I would have thought that because of Twitter, it would have started 30 seconds after the report came out. I wouldn't mind him on the Lakers if we could get him for like 5 or 6 mil per.