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  • Master Live 013
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    • Oct 2013
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    #1336
    Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

    Didn't I read specifically that the Celtics told Baynes they wouldn't trade him before he exercised his option.
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    • Yeah...THAT Guy
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      • Dec 2006
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      #1337
      Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by Master Live 013
      Didn't I read specifically that the Celtics told Baynes they wouldn't trade him before he exercised his option.
      Not sure, but things have changed big time since then. It sounds like they can potentially open up a max slot if they move Baynes and renounce a bunch of the cap holds they have.
      Last edited by Yeah...THAT Guy; 06-20-2019, 08:14 AM.
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      • Fresh Tendrils
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        • Jul 2002
        • 36131

        #1338
        Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by Majingir
        I read something from Lakers source that claims LAC could very well be paying off media to sell them in a way more favorable light/help them lure FA(specifically Kawhi).

        Would that be so surprising? Look how often they all suddenly talk about Clippers. And literally the minute the Raptors won the title, Woj drops a woj bomb that Wizards are gonna make a huge offer to Masai(trying to paint picture of FO instability with Raptors being without a president going into FA). A report later denied by the Wizards themselves.

        No doubt Clippers are involved in all this.

        These conspiracy theories are cute and all, but damn ya'll need a separate thread for this ****.

        Re:Wizards

        Maj - I don't think it was the media creating anything. There had been rumblings concerning the Wizards going after Ujiri ever since Tim Connelly walked away. This situation with Ujiri was essentially an exact recreation of that apart from Tim actually coming in for a "talk." Of course the Wizards have to play the "I dumped you actually" card and try to save face because ever since they fired Ernie (which definitely needed to happen no matter what) they have been showcasing in amateur hour.


        It's cute how you guys pick and choose when the team is lying, when the media is lying, and all that jazz.



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        • jeebs9
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          • Oct 2008
          • 47568

          #1339
          Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

          Draft day! Which only means nothing that we've been talking even matters. And that even Zion Williamson might be passed on.

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          • jeremym480
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            • Oct 2008
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            #1340
            Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
            Not sure, but things have changed big time since then. It sounds like they can potentially open up a max slot if they move Baynes and renounce a bunch of the cap holds they have.
            Yeah, Baynes likely opted in thinking that Boston would be a top team in the East again. Since things have went off the rails, I wouldn't be surprised if he asked out. It sucks for him because he probably could have gotten more as a FA.

            I'm sure Ainge had a plan in mind. I'm hoping D-Lo or Brogdon but it's more than likely Vuc or a trade for Capela. What's Brogdon expected to get?

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            • Yeah...THAT Guy
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              • Dec 2006
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              #1341
              Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by jeremym480
              Yeah, Baynes likely opted in thinking that Boston would be a top team in the East again. Since things have went off the rails, I wouldn't be surprised if he asked out. It sucks for him because he probably could have gotten more as a FA.

              I'm sure Ainge had a plan in mind. I'm hoping D-Lo or Brogdon but it's more than likely Vuc or a trade for Capela. What's Brogdon expected to get?

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              Seems like the expectation is 4 years and anywhere between 70-90 million for Brogdon; not sure how high the Bucks would go to match. I'm hoping that we match but we'll see.
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              • roadman
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                • Aug 2003
                • 26339

                #1342
                Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                Some tidbits from Bucks GM Horst:

                “Marc and Wes and Jamie, from the day that they bought this team, committed to bringing a championship to Milwaukee,” Horst said. “We’ve, from that day, committed to educating them on what that means. Often it means having the willingness to invest in a team and sometimes that means the luxury tax.

                “Really, the luxury tax is just a point in salary where you start paying a premium on the dollars you spend. There is no reason to believe this ownership group will not pay a premium on dollars spent if they’re investing in something that can win and sustain winning over a long period of time. ...

                there’s a strong willingness to invest in this group, to keep them together, to run it back and try to improve from last year.”

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                • The Chef
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                  • Sep 2003
                  • 13684

                  #1343
                  Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by TMagic
                  As of right now, yes.

                  Until we see what the Lakers put together, I think the Jazz are the best in the west this year.

                  Who else? The Rockets? Nah. The Blazers? Nah. The Nuggets? Maybe. But I'm giving the edge to the Jazz on that one.

                  Nurkic literally does everything better than Kanter outside of offensive rebounding. Passing. Screen setting. Being a roll man. Contesting shots inside. Contesting shots outside. Pick n roll defense. Literally ANYTHING on defense. Defensive rebounding.

                  You name anything outside of offensive rebounding, and Nurkic has him beat. Nurkic's importance to this Blazers team should not be minimized. Dude was absolutely vital to their success last year before he went down.

                  As a Blazers fan, if you don't see the stark difference between having Nurkic on the floor (again, he's arguably more important to the team than McCollum is) vs having Kanter (who like you said got benched) then I have nothing left to say. Lol
                  You're completely missing what I'm saying. At no point did I attempt to say Kanter was better then Nurkic, what I am saying however is in that one series with Denver when Kanter played well above expectations, the loss of Nurkic didn't hurt as much as it otherwise would have. The Golden St series is in stark contrast to that, the loss of Nurkic hurt more there because Kanter was a complete non factor who was too slow on the perimeter to contest anything and couldn't get back off the screen action either, hence why he was benched in favor of Leonard and Collins. I've been a Portland fan my entire life, born and raised in Portland, trust me I am well aware of who is important to the team etc.
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                  • Majingir
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                    • Apr 2005
                    • 47603

                    #1344
                    Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                    One of these days some big time reporter after retirement is gonna come out and be like "Most of the rumors I reported on had no credibility. I just made them all up but it was believable. Everyone else at our network did it too. It's so easy to get people to bite on these."

                    I'm sure if anyone here tried, we could all do it too.

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                    • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                      • Dec 2006
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                      #1345
                      Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                      Seems highly unlikely, but Windhorst floated a really interesting wrinkle in the Durant Sweepstakes.

                      Says one possibility that’s been discussed is Durant signing the supermax with the Warriors with the intention of them trading him at the deadline to the Knicks. Presumably the Knicks would sign guys to 1 year contracts that they could send to Golden State as added reinforcements for this upcoming season, plus create a trade exception for the Warriors to acquire other players with


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                      • DieHardYankee26
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                        • Feb 2008
                        • 10178

                        #1346
                        Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                        That would require too much trust for me to believe it could actually go through, but if the Warriors are thinking of a sign and trade they must really believe he's leaving which is great.
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                        • FlackoMars
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                          #1347
                          Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                          Seems highly unlikely, but Windhorst floated a really interesting wrinkle in the Durant Sweepstakes.

                          Says one possibility that’s been discussed is Durant signing the supermax with the Warriors with the intention of them trading him at the deadline to the Knicks. Presumably the Knicks would sign guys to 1 year contracts that they could send to Golden State as added reinforcements for this upcoming season, plus create a trade exception for the Warriors to acquire other players with


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                          Sounds diabolical to me. Buys everybody a little more time and GS would absolutely benefit to add assets at the deadline when they’re so far over the cap.

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                          • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                            #1348
                            Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by FlackoMars
                            Sounds diabolical to me. Buys everybody a little more time and GS would absolutely benefit to add assets at the deadline when they’re so far over the cap.
                            Yeah, as long as it's just guys on one-year deals that the Knicks lose in the "trade", this seems like a win-win-win for everyone to me. I suppose the downside for the Knicks is that they'd be paying Durant more and depending on the one-year guys, they might not be tanking for a good draft pick again.
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                            • IlliniM1ke
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                              • Feb 2003
                              • 8082

                              #1349
                              Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                              Originally posted by areobee401
                              Celtics looking to move Aron Baynes $5.4M expiring contract in hopes of taking no salary back.

                              Could be a busy night for them.

                              Woj reported this though. I don't know if he has an agenda against Aussies or not so take the report as you will.
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                              • Master Live 013
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                                #1350
                                Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                                Wouldn't that be collusion (not sure this is the right term, but you get the idea) of some sort.
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