2019 Offseason Thread

[cima]

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"Rumors" that the Lakers want to bring back Rondo as well.. Makes sense if it's one of the minimum spots, but I don't think he's worth their MLE or bi-annual exception.. They would have to miss out on quite a few options first IMO.

I don't think the Lakers have an MLE, I thought that was for teams over the cap only?

[Caveman24]

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Caruso>Rondo

[jeebs9]

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Man I can't with these posts and the other fans who clamor for freaking D'Lo and Julius Randle. Y'all really believe all those guys that were drafted by the Lakers were actually gonna win a title together someday with Luke as the coach, don't you?

Also, there's a lot of rumblings that D'Lo may become the newest member of #ValleyBoyz. That would at least solve our PG issue. I'm not crazy about D'Lo but beggars can't be choosers and no big names ever comes to PHX, so I'll take this.

What? Lol.... I just said I like their systems that is all lol

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[WarMMA]

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Yea. Pelicans Will definitely be fun to watch. Will be my league pass team for sure.

Yh i'll definitely be watching more NO Pelican basketball this time around. A healthy Zo, plus Zion should be fun to watch.

[3304Life]

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I think we’ll all be watching more Pels basketball simply because they’ll have Zion, so even if you don’t have League Pass they’re getting more nationally televised games. I know AD is one of the best in the league but he’s never had a hype train like Zion has. Really, with the Warriors expected to be a regular Western playoff team if Klay and KD are out for all of 2019-20, I can see the Lakers, Raptors, Nets (if they land a couple big FAs) and Pelicans being the most heavily featured teams in national TV games next year.

[ojandpizza]

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I don't think the Lakers have an MLE, I thought that was for teams over the cap only?

Depending how their off-season goes they can get over the cap. And if they don't they'll still have the cap-room MLE which is about half the full.

I don't really understand the "if this, then that" **** that goes on with NBA salary cap.. For example, right now the Lakers are over the cap until they renounce rights, which they can hang on to until they need to clear space.. Meaning they are going into the off-season over the cap.. They can also be over the cap by the end of the off-season as well, even if they renounce those guys and sign new players...

But idk timing wise how those exceptions work. I've seen conflicting articles saying they can and some saying they can't.. Neither make sense to me though as nothing explains when, how, why those become available. It jsut states the full MLE is for teams over the cap... But as of when? IDK how al that works.

[Smallville102001]

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Been hearing a lot of people bring up jj for lakers and i would take him always liked him can give you 10 or so points a game and always been a good shooter something the lakers need more of and is a solid defender. I also saw this list and think its a solid list of guys only like 2 of them do i not really care for.

https://www-cbssports-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lakers-free-agency-targets-15-non-max-free-agents-that-make-sense-for-los-angeles-after-anthony-davis-trade/amp/?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQA#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbssports.com%2Fnba%2Fnews%2Flakers-free-agency-targets-15-non-max-free-agents-that-make-sense-for-los-angeles-after-anthony-davis-trade%2Famp%2F%23referrer%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%26amp_tf%3DFrom%2520%25251%2524s

[cima]

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Depending how their off-season goes they can get over the cap. And if they don't they'll still have the cap-room MLE which is about half the full.

I don't really understand the "if this, then that" **** that goes on with NBA salary cap.. For example, right now the Lakers are over the cap until they renounce rights, which they can hang on to until they need to clear space.. Meaning they are going into the off-season over the cap.. They can also be over the cap by the end of the off-season as well, even if they renounce those guys and sign new players...

But idk timing wise how those exceptions work. I've seen conflicting articles saying they can and some saying they can't.. Neither make sense to me though as nothing explains when, how, why those become available. It jsut states the full MLE is for teams over the cap... But as of when? IDK how al that works.

Well Rob Pelinka was known to be a CBA guru, so that's why I have a hard time believing these reports that he didn't negotiate a July 30th date as part of the trade agreement. Logically, I would imagine agreeing to extend it to the 30th is why they have all those pick swaps in the later years. I know Griff is good but Rob ain't no slouch either and it's hard for me to believe he got fleeced that hard by Griff.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Well Rob Pelinka was known to be a CBA guru, so that's why I have a hard time believing these reports that he didn't negotiate a July 30th date as part of the trade agreement. Logically, I would imagine agreeing to extend it to the 30th is why they have all those pick swaps in the later years. I know Griff is good but Rob ain't no slouch either and it's hard for me to believe he got fleeced that hard by Griff.

I think you're giving Pelinka way too much credit. Being an agent is not the same as running the entire show. Maybe he just wanted to get the trade done by any means necessary.

Bobby Marks pointed out the execution dates of the trade as soon as it happened. I don't think a "CBA guru" misses those things. Could be lack of oversight from someone beneath him with all of the changes in the Lakers front office. Who knows.

Griffin has no incentive to extend the trade. What if he wants to flip the 4th pick? What if he wants to use the higher cap space when quality FAs are still available in the beginning of July?

[WarMMA]

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Lonzo to me was always the best piece. He's got a long ways to go, and all of his short comings may give him the lowest ceiling.. But I like the way he impacts games.. Even comparing him to other passing guards isn't always accurate because he doesn't have to use his dribble. Often makes reads and gets rid of the ball immediately, full court passes, I just think he can end up being special.. Though shooting is a main concern, more so from the free throw line than lack of a jumper.

Lakers basically had to keep Kuz to improve the rest of the roster post trade, but from a personnel standpoint keeping Lonzo always felt like the best decision IMO.

Yh I feel the same way. I feel like Zo can turn into something special in NO once he gets healthy. I think this may be a blessing in disguise for him. Gets to play with another young guy that can be a superstar player in Zion (granted he lives up to the hype) and he's teaming up with Holiday in the backcourt. Those two have the potential to be one of the best backcourts in the league imo. Especially defensively...they could be the best defensive backcourt in the NBA. Nothing's a guarantee, but I feel there's tons of potential with this trade...can't wait to see what actually happens.

[illwill10]

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The best case scenario for Pels is for them to stay healthy and both Zo and BI to achieve DLo & Randle level growth. Maybe in smaller market and lower expectations they will be able to focus on developing. Zo and BI played under 60 games last two years. A lineup of Zo-Holiday-BI-Zion has the chance to be a top 5 defensive unit. Great size and length and ability to easily switch. The problem I can see is offensively. Even when you add in Hart to those 4, they were all sub-34% 3pt shooters. So spacing could be a big issue. I can see Jrue-BI-Zion averaging combined 60-65 ppg. Zo isn't going to go north of 10. So the rest of squad will need to give them 30+ ppg to stay in games.

[Majingir]

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If what Cris Carter said about Raptors being faves for Kawhi are true, and he's meeting with 4 other teams also (Nets,Knicks,LAL,LAC), what do you think these teams would have to say to get him to leave?

If he's really convinced of a certain destination, why meet with so many teams?


Cant wait for things to be done. Would be great if he stays with Raptors and announcement happens asap. Obviously he, his family and Masai are in Toronto, so I'm sure they'll talk contract.

[23]

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#Timberwolves are aggressively shopping Andrew Wiggins, per league source.

Man if they send this dude to Houston LOL


He and James Harden do NOT mix.

[ojandpizza]

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If what Cris Carter said about Raptors being faves for Kawhi are true, and he's meeting with 4 other teams also (Nets,Knicks,LAL,LAC), what do you think these teams would have to say to get him to leave?

If he's really convinced of a certain destination, why meet with so many teams?


Cant wait for things to be done. Would be great if he stays with Raptors and announcement happens asap. Obviously he, his family and Masai are in Toronto, so I'm sure they'll talk contract.

I mean the Lakers selling point is pretty obvious, possibly the same from BK and NY depending on what's in their pipeline. Clipps can offer him a somewhat similar position to the one he is in and he gets to move home.

Lakers hurdle is they might not have the exact amount to offer him a full max, but they would easily give him the best chance to win long term. And in terms of just "legacy" and exposure. That trio would be looked back on as one of the greatest of all time, possibly the greatest, he'll likely win multiple titles, get the recognition as an all time great he wants, would continue that with AD even after Bron. And do it all in his home state.

I see about 2% chance he would go there if they don't have max money. But the word is he's wanted to go home this whole time, so the Clippers option feels just as likely as Toronto IMO.

I think all 4 of those other teams are more alluring long term. He could do a 1+1 deal, try to win another ring next season.. But the year after that VanVleet needs to be signed, Siakam needs to be signed, Ibaka is up, Lowry up, Marc will be up.. They don't currently have the money to really improve the roster, and if Kawhi, Siakam, VanVleet all get paid they won't have that money to improve it when the other deals start falling off either.

With NY and BK he knows he's singing a deal with another player likely signing a deal alongside him. With the Lakers it's obvious what they will have, and the Clippers have two slots available and in the event that they strike out they still have that flexibility for next season.. And again, he's home.

[ojandpizza]

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Man if they send this dude to Houston LOL


He and James Harden do NOT mix.

What team in the league sees that contract and decides that's the player we want... yikes.