2019 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

[Smallville102001]

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Thought Barkley was on-point during the postgame. The Warriors have always seemed to be at their best when they operate as a symphony of weaponry. Recently though, it almost seems as though they've been hamstrung a bit by going to Durant so much. Even if he's hitting, if it's sacrificing any semblance of flow for Steph Curry and Klay Thompson, that's still probably going to be a net negative.

That said, rumors suggest that opposing defenses also like to do their best to disrupt flow and make it difficult for the offensive teams to do things well, so that could be at play here too.

That may be true I remember when these teams played last year GS started playing like Rockets by doing a lot of iso ball instead of passing the ball. I dont remember the stats but I remember GS was averaging a lot less passes per game vs rockets than normal and it was a big reason they almost lost. I saw some of that tonight to not has bad has last year but I did see some of it.

[ojandpizza]

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If not for KD rockets would most likely be up 3-1 right now and it might even be 4-0 and over with when you look at how Curry and Thompson are playing. I am getting more convinced that who ever comes out of the east is going to win the championship this year.

I think this is kinda what VDusen meant though, it’s not really that simple and more of a two way street. The way they are playing right now, yes they might be down 3-1 without KD.. but the way they are playing and relying so heavily on KD it’s hindering the ball movement and collective shooting a bit from what we typically see from this group. Where as over the course of a few quarters, Steph and Klay might be missing out on 10+ touches, thus hindering their rhythm, thus them technically playing bad when maybe with more flow they would be playing substantially better.




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[jeebs9]

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I think this is kinda what VDusen meant though, it’s not really that simple and more of a two way street. The way they are playing right now, yes they might be down 3-1 without KD.. but the way they are playing and relying so heavily on KD it’s hindering the ball movement and collective shooting a bit from what we typically see from this group. Where as over the course of a few quarters, Steph and Klay might be missing out on 10+ touches, thus hindering their rhythm, thus them technically playing bad when maybe with more flow they would be playing substantially better.




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I brought this up after game 3. They basically have gotten away from what makes them so damn good in the first place.

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[ojandpizza]

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If I am Kerr I am getting fined after this game. The calls tonight or lack of calls where a Joke. Refs favored Rockets big time tonight

Honestly, I didn’t notice a huge advantage one way or the other. I thought there were a couple instances of both sides not getting whistles when they should have, and a couple instances where both sides got whistles they shouldn’t have. Rockets were technically called for more fouls than GS was, but I know that’s not always the cut and dry way to look at it.

If Kerr were to make a gripe, I think it would have to be on that Harden off arm. We see lots of players use the off arm, but this isn’t a shoulder bump to clear room like a Giannis or LeBron, he seems to be really shoving off with his arm to create extra space on step backs, where it’s not really defenders running into his shoulder from the side but in sound defensive position.

I’ve noticed Harden seems to utilize that more from the elbow extended 3’s when the ref is positioned behind him.. so he might be strategically using that extra push, which effective or not is just another gimmicky move to trick refs and add to reasons his game is so distasteful.


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[ojandpizza]

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I brought this up after game 3. They basically have gotten away from what makes them so damn good in the first place.

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I don’t think they’ve abandoned it completely, but like Chuck said ever since that personal battle with KD and Bev they’ve been giving him isolated looks more and more. Shaq was agreeing with him too, although Shaq was smiling and agreeing with everything and wearing sunglasses lol.


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[Master Live 013]

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Don't know which series some of your guys are watching. GS won Game 1 by 4 and Game 2 by 6. And at the end of Game 2 Houston did the whole "we aren't lying down, we won't quit" thing. Not surprised that this series is tied at 2.

[YuNgWuN]

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If not for KD rockets would most likely be up 3-1 right now and it might even be 4-0 and over with when you look at how Curry and Thompson are playing. I am getting more convinced that who ever comes out of the east is going to win the championship this year.

I think whoever comes out of the east is done in 5, 6 at the very most. Whether its gs or rockets.

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[Smallville102001]

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I think this is kinda what VDusen meant though, it’s not really that simple and more of a two way street. The way they are playing right now, yes they might be down 3-1 without KD.. but the way they are playing and relying so heavily on KD it’s hindering the ball movement and collective shooting a bit from what we typically see from this group. Where as over the course of a few quarters, Steph and Klay might be missing out on 10+ touches, thus hindering their rhythm, thus them technically playing bad when maybe with more flow they would be playing substantially better.



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Yeah its not a simple thing but yeah point is KD is the only one playing while.

[Smallville102001]

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Don't know which series some of your guys are watching. GS won Game 1 by 4 and Game 2 by 6. And at the end of Game 2 Houston did the whole "we aren't laying down, we won't quit thing". Not surprised that this series is tied at 2.

Yeah but the thing is game 1 felt like Rockets gave that game away and with GS having little time off and Rockets having more time to rest it felt like a game that Rockets needed to win and also GS won game 1-2 with out Curry and Thompson going off and you would think one of them would have went off in either game 3-4 and they didn't.

[georgiafan]

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So why isn't Curry taking the same amount of heat that RW did ? He has been awful this series he cant hit 3's and has been a liability on defense. He has let the refs and Hardin get inside his head and he even quit several times during the play to complain about calls. This should be the lead story on all sports show this morning like it was with Russ.

[cima]

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So why isn't Curry taking the same amount of heat that RW did ? He has been awful this series he cant hit 3's and has been a liability on defense. He has let the refs and Hardin get inside his head and he even quit several times during the play to complain about calls. This should be the lead story on all sports show this morning like it was with Russ.

"BuT CuRrY hAs 3 RiNgZ" is why you don't hear anything about it

[jeebs9]

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lol I don't where I saw this. But someone said that Caplea should give his check to Tucker

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[VDusen04]

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So why isn't Curry taking the same amount of heat that RW did ? He has been awful this series he cant hit 3's and has been a liability on defense. He has let the refs and Hardin get inside his head and he even quit several times during the play to complain about calls. This should be the lead story on all sports show this morning like it was with Russ.

Worrying about media narratives is a typically trivial and fruitless endeavor.

If you're referencing social media, i.e. people like us, then Curry's struggles have been well documented thus far. Even his missed dunk clip was sitting on top of Reddit for the better part of the days between Games 3 and 4 (not to mention another post of his lowlights).

Otherwise, it's different players with different situations with different personalities and different perceived expectations. All those factors and more play into how someone's performance is viewed and interpreted.

[CMH]

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I thought we spent at least three playoff years talking about Curry being ineffective so long as someone presses or bodies him?

[DieHardYankee26]

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Ahh, the "touch em up" era, never forget.