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[ggsimmonds]

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Shorts were even more egregious in college during that era. Nike's System of Dress uniforms were probably the low point: massive shorts and tight jerseys. It really is amazing that we all played ball in shorts that size. WTF was everyone thinking?

I think Kemba could fit his entire waist in a single leg hole of those shorts.

I lean more towards long shorts instead of this short-shorts/compression short combo that is trending, but yeah that Nike System of Dress was just horrible. Who thought it was a good look to make basketball players look like they were wearing Victorian dresses

[VDusen04]

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It's pretty easy to imagine. Just take what Giannis & AD do but on a 7'1", 250 lbs. frame.

I don't imagine he ever would've truly developed a three - point shot, either.

Him being diminished because of that one series is a farce & indicative of everything wrong with fandom/sports back then & today.

I don't think it's terribly far-fetched to believe Robinson could have become competent from behind the arc. Like, I see him being used today more like John Lucas used him in 1994. Which is to say that his bread and butter would still be inside 23'9'' but with the capability and freedom to fire from deep when the opportunity arose (he shot .345 from the arc that one Lucas year).

Otherwise, when I think of David Robinson I can't help but think his specific set of skills and size were always somewhat limited by his era back then. It always seemed like for all his athleticism, speed, and prowess, everyone was still more or less trying to force him back toward that traditional center role. "Nice job with that jab and blow by, but let's get you back on the block next time down."

With a license to take off with a live dribble? The ability to act as a playmaker from the high post (again, like he did in '94 when he led the Spurs in assists)? The likely increased emphasize to get him into open spaces within spread offenses? Utilizing him as a rim-runner? The notion of it all almost makes me hyperventilate.

Picture this but... more of it.

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[The 24th Letter]

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It will always bother me a lot that that one playoff series where he played well but Hakeem played out of this world seemed to diminish the statue of David Robinson when it shouldn't have.

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Dirks epic playoff run all but erased a long list of absolute flameouts in the playoffs..

History is funny like that

[jeebs9]

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I don't think it's terribly far-fetched to believe Robinson could have become competent from behind the arc. Like, I see him being used today more like John Lucas used him in 1994. Which is to say that his bread and butter would still be inside 23'9'' but with the capability and freedom to fire from deep when the opportunity arose (he shot .345 from the arc that one Lucas year).

Otherwise, when I think of David Robinson I can't help but think his specific set of skills and size were always somewhat limited by his era back then. It always seemed like for all his athleticism, speed, and prowess, everyone was still more or less trying to force him back toward that traditional center role. "Nice job with that jab and blow by, but let's get you back on the block next time down."

With a license to take off with a live dribble? The ability to act as a playmaker from the high post (again, like he did in '94 when he led the Spurs in assists)? The likely increased emphasize to get him into open spaces within spread offenses? Utilizing him as a rim-runner? The notion of it all almost makes me hyperventilate.

Picture this but... more of it.

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[dubcity]

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It will always bother me a lot that that one playoff series where he played well but Hakeem played out of this world seemed to diminish the statue of David Robinson when it shouldn't have.

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True. Just another pervasive lazy narrative, probably put out there and fed into by old media types.

Hakeem might be the most talent center ever, and getting killed by him is no insult.

[ojandpizza]

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Think the Giannis comparisons are a bit overboard, David was “fast”, Wilt was fast, but the fluidity and shifty-ness Giannis has is just something those guys don’t. I know we can find a few highlights over a 10 year prime that showcase that to a degree, but it can be an every other play for Giannis nightly. Era differences is part of that, but it’s definitely not all of that or I feel even the majority. I think in terms of that, especially with the ball, there were even noticeable differences between guys like KG and McDyess compared to him at/around that time (couple years later).

AD comparison isn’t as bad, he’s much more aggressive than AD, but much less so than Giannis still, if he had a Giannis mindset we’d probably be looking at him overall a lot differently than we do honestly. But even being a bigger more aggressive AD with a better inside game (offense and defense), and he’s faster/more athletic in general.. you’re still looking at a guy in AD who just has better handles, shot, and perimeter offensive and defensive instincts.

Could that have been David coming up today? Sure, it’s possible. But that’s when those “well if he played today” arguments get so difficult because it’s hard to imagine because in theory any player could have developed X skill instead of Y skill.. we start playing this game of creating versions of players who never existed. If something develops something else doesn’t or at least might not. And they “might” game is the theory behind all this anyways. If he’s still getting 20+ inside the arc touches playing today, getting those little soft spot jumpers at will, that was a huge part of his game. With those gifts do they use him as more of a rim runner instead. You just don’t know.

I do agree with VDusen though. I don’t think it’s far fetched to think he could have a decent outside shot. His mechanics were solid, he had a great middy I mean he did a lot of work with the short jumper not necessarily with his back to the basket. Had a decent free-throw, and took the rare 3 on occasion even back then.. And he ran the floor like a cheetah. I just don’t know how to guarantee how that translates. I’m sure I’m theory guys like Towns and Ayton could take off like that too, Bosh as well (not saying that exact speed if y’all didn’t know) but those guys even having that ability in them to some degree aren’t Giannis because they can’t do it as well as most SF/big guards.

[J_Posse]

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Think the Giannis comparisons are a bit overboard, David was “fast”, Wilt was fast, but the fluidity and shifty-ness Giannis has is just something those guys don’t. I know we can find a few highlights over a 10 year prime that showcase that to a degree, but it can be an every other play for Giannis nightly. Era differences is part of that, but it’s definitely not all of that or I feel even the majority. I think in terms of that, especially with the ball, there were even noticeable differences between guys like KG and McDyess compared to him at/around that time (couple years later).

AD comparison isn’t as bad, he’s much more aggressive than AD, but much less so than Giannis still, if he had a Giannis mindset we’d probably be looking at him overall a lot differently than we do honestly. But even being a bigger more aggressive AD with a better inside game (offense and defense), and he’s faster/more athletic in general.. you’re still looking at a guy in AD who just has better handles, shot, and perimeter offensive and defensive instincts.

Could that have been David coming up today? Sure, it’s possible. But that’s when those “well if he played today” arguments get so difficult because it’s hard to imagine because in theory any player could have developed X skill instead of Y skill.. we start playing this game of creating versions of players who never existed. If something develops something else doesn’t or at least might not. And they “might” game is the theory behind all this anyways. If he’s still getting 20+ inside the arc touches playing today, getting those little soft spot jumpers at will, that was a huge part of his game. With those gifts do they use him as more of a rim runner instead. You just don’t know.

I do agree with VDusen though. I don’t think it’s far fetched to think he could have a decent outside shot. His mechanics were solid, he had a great middy I mean he did a lot of work with the short jumper not necessarily with his back to the basket. Had a decent free-throw, and took the rare 3 on occasion even back then.. And he ran the floor like a cheetah. I just don’t know how to guarantee how that translates. I’m sure I’m theory guys like Towns and Ayton could take off like that too, Bosh as well (not saying that exact speed if y’all didn’t know) but those guys even having that ability in them to some degree aren’t Giannis because they can’t do it as well as most SF/big guards.

Neither is a 1:1 comparison but both share similar traits and style of game to 5 - 0. Obviously, he came up an era when big men weren't "allowed" to handle the ball and create, plus I doubt he could've done it at the rate of Giannis, but he was a solid passer and had any amazing first-step.

Both things that would've been better utilized in today's "pace & space" era of basketball. I never saw him as a guy with a overly reliable jumper (it usually faltered come playoff time), so extending it out to three - point territory (on somewhat high volume) seems like a stretch.

Myself being a Spurs fan of course I agree that that '95 WCF "beating" was/is overblown, but sadly he had a lot of early or disappointing exits beyond that one series. Some of that wasn't all his fault with other factors (coaching, underperforming teammates & roster construction) playing a part too.

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[ojandpizza]

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For the Winning Time crew here I will never hear The Coup again and not immediately think of this intro lol

[MrDubya]

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For the Winning Time crew here I will never hear The Coup again and not immediately think of this intro lol

It’s fantastic. I never skip the intro when I watch the show.

[ojandpizza]

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It’s fantastic. I never skip the intro when I watch the show.

Yeah I have multiple playlists with My Favorite Mutiny on them and I never would have thought to link it to something 70’s/80’s themed, even sports themed, but it really does fit that intro perfectly. I think the OG song that this song samples it’s beat from is from around that timeline though.

[l3ulvl]

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Hahaha I've been Detroit fans saying the same thing for months now

Detroit is basically Canada anyway

[DamnYanks2]

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Anybody see this [emoji23][emoji23]

https://youtu.be/qvX3DJj0rkA

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[jeebs9]

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Did y'all see this? Lol. https://twitter.com/OfficialNBARefs/...HOUbWLipw&s=19

[ojandpizza]

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So corny lol

[jeebs9]

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Lol I just came across this lol

https://youtu.be/NS6Gpnx6NBI