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  • J_Posse
    Greatness Personified
    • Jun 2005
    • 11255

    #106
    Re: NBA Draft 2023

    Holy ****!

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    • VDusen04
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2003
      • 13028

      #107
      Re: NBA Draft 2023

      Good for San Antonio. That was my favorite squad in the 90's while the Pistons figured themselves out.

      I admit I have a degree of morbid satisfaction in watching some Pistons fans melting down out there, as they're largely the same folks who pushed purposeful losing, descending all the way into the abyss because they thought a top pick would magically manifest itself and fix everything.

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      • The 24th Letter
        ERA
        • Oct 2007
        • 39373

        #108
        Re: NBA Draft 2023

        Well then…..that’s exciting


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        • Majingir
          Moderator
          • Apr 2005
          • 47606

          #109
          Re: NBA Draft 2023

          I wonder if the Magic would even try to get both Thompsons.

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          • dubcity
            Hall Of Fame
            • May 2012
            • 17874

            #110
            Re: NBA Draft 2023

            Will be fun to see how he turns out in SA. Who was the last top prospect at that height/size? Yao?

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            • J_Posse
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              • Jun 2005
              • 11255

              #111
              Re: NBA Draft 2023

              Originally posted by dubcity
              Will be fun to see how he turns out in SA. Who was the last top prospect at that height/size? Yao?
              Porzingis was/is a little bit shorter, but he's close to their height.

              Gonna be interesting to see how Pop (or his successor) uses him on offense.

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              • pietasterp
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                • Feb 2004
                • 6244

                #112
                Re: NBA Draft 2023

                Originally posted by VDusen04
                Good for San Antonio. That was my favorite squad in the 90's while the Pistons figured themselves out.

                I admit I have a degree of morbid satisfaction in watching some Pistons fans melting down out there, as they're largely the same folks who pushed purposeful losing, descending all the way into the abyss because they thought a top pick would magically manifest itself and fix everything.
                I assume you are no longer a Pistons fan, then.

                Second year in a row they finish with top odds of getting the top pick and falling to the lowest possible pick. In the 17 times the 'Stones have been in the lottery, their pick has improved only 1 time. 8 other times they've dropped. The lottery is not our strong suit!

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                • J_Posse
                  Greatness Personified
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 11255

                  #113
                  Re: NBA Draft 2023

                  Originally posted by pietasterp
                  I assume you are no longer a Pistons fan, then.

                  Second year in a row they finish with top odds of getting the top pick and falling to the lowest possible pick. In the 17 times the 'Stones have been in the lottery, their pick has improved only 1 time. 8 other times they've dropped. The lottery is not our strong suit!
                  Originally posted by VDusen04
                  Good for San Antonio. That was my favorite squad in the 90's while the Pistons figured themselves out.

                  I admit I have a degree of morbid satisfaction in watching some Pistons fans melting down out there, as they're largely the same folks who pushed purposeful losing, descending all the way into the abyss because they thought a top pick would magically manifest itself and fix everything.
                  Y'all have Cade, Ivey, and Duren. Which are really great building blocks. Gotta get a 3-and-D wing and a coach (Kenny Atkinson, maybe?) that can get y'all moving in the right direction.

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                  • l3ulvl
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                    • Dec 2009
                    • 17245

                    #114
                    Re: NBA Draft 2023

                    Originally posted by J_Posse
                    Y'all have Cade, Ivey, and Duren. Which are really great building blocks. Gotta get a 3-and-D wing and a coach (Kenny Atkinson, maybe?) that can get y'all moving in the right direction.

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                    • VDusen04
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 13028

                      #115
                      Re: NBA Draft 2023

                      Originally posted by pietasterp
                      I assume you are no longer a Pistons fan, then.

                      Second year in a row they finish with top odds of getting the top pick and falling to the lowest possible pick. In the 17 times the 'Stones have been in the lottery, their pick has improved only 1 time. 8 other times they've dropped. The lottery is not our strong suit!
                      Still very much a Pistons fan. I would have preferred literally any pick but No. 5.

                      However, I’ve also grown tired of the loud voices who’ve been pushing for the Pistons to lose frequently and purposely year after year after year under the broadly misguided notion that they’ll magically just be able to come swoop in and take the highest possible pick every year until they’re a championship team (while yelling “rigged” if the lottery yields any other outcome).

                      I can only roll my eyes so much at fellow Pistons fans who’ve convinced themselves this lottery was rigged for the Spurs and everyone knows it.

                      But in a vacuum? Yeah, would have been nice to have a fourth, third, second, or first pick.

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                      • jeebs9
                        Fear is the Unknown
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 47568

                        #116
                        Re: NBA Draft 2023

                        Originally posted by J_Posse
                        Y'all have Cade, Ivey, and Duren. Which are really great building blocks. Gotta get a 3-and-D wing and a coach (Kenny Atkinson, maybe?) that can get y'all moving in the right direction.

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                        • ojandpizza
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                          • Apr 2011
                          • 29807

                          #117
                          Re: NBA Draft 2023

                          Originally posted by J_Posse

                          He has next-level explosiveness and a great first-step. And he's probably a better passer as an "amateur" than Rose, Smith Jr., or Morant.
                          IDK, I think before developing a shot good enough to work the P-n-R all game Ja's passing was one of his biggest strengths. Maybe true for those other guys but Ja was a 10 assist guy in college, a 9 assists guy per 36 as a rookie in the league. Most of his scouting reports claimed his passing would be his best NBA attribute, to be fair they likely didn't predict how explosive he would still be at the next level though.

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                          • ojandpizza
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 29807

                            #118
                            Re: NBA Draft 2023

                            Spurs have cap space (I think) but man it would be nice if they had any sort of "future star" to build alongside Vemby.

                            LaMelo on the Hornets, Portland with whatever they land from flipping Dame, Pistons with Cade, Ivey, and Rockets with Smith, Green, and others all have better building blocks for future success IMO. Sure none of them have Pop and none of them have direction, but when you land a generational talent that is what gives you direction.

                            I like a lot of the Spurs guys but Keldon, Vassell, and that group is just a very mehh group with seemingly very mehh upside. Plenty of time to grow, and the right time to grow with, but none of their current pieces are "exciting", at least in the other situations you have a slimmer hope of what some of those guys could be if they "breakout".

                            Also sucks that they have the money but this years free-agent pool is only decent. Best case scenario at a max-level guy would be maybe Middleton? He's always hurt, DLo, VanVleet, LeVert, J Grant, J Clarkson, J Hart, Kuzma, most these dudes only move the needle so much and I'm assuming Harden, Kyrie, Porzingis, Westbrook, and so on are not on their radar.

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                            • J_Posse
                              Greatness Personified
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 11255

                              #119
                              Re: NBA Draft 2023

                              Originally posted by ojandpizza
                              Spurs have cap space (I think) but man it would be nice if they had any sort of "future star" to build alongside Vemby.

                              LaMelo on the Hornets, Portland with whatever they land from flipping Dame, Pistons with Cade, Ivey, and Rockets with Smith, Green, and others all have better building blocks for future success IMO. Sure none of them have Pop and none of them have direction, but when you land a generational talent that is what gives you direction.

                              I like a lot of the Spurs guys but Keldon, Vassell, and that group is just a very mehh group with seemingly very mehh upside. Plenty of time to grow, and the right time to grow with, but none of their current pieces are "exciting", at least in the other situations you have a slimmer hope of what some of those guys could be if they "breakout".

                              Also sucks that they have the money but this years free-agent pool is only decent. Best case scenario at a max-level guy would be maybe Middleton? He's always hurt, DLo, VanVleet, LeVert, J Grant, J Clarkson, J Hart, Kuzma, most these dudes only move the needle so much and I'm assuming Harden, Kyrie, Porzingis, Westbrook, and so on are not on their radar.
                              I think this thought is way overblown.

                              The Spurs have a ton of cap space, own their picks plus multiple (up to six) first-round picks (barring protections) in '24 and '25, & "tradeable assets" in Vassell, Johnson, etc, so they'll have plenty of time to add more "exciting" pieces.

                              Continuing to build through the draft is key and not trying to skip steps to "get ahead" of the curve.

                              No point in wasting cap space now when Wembanyama is just now getting on the roster (in June). He isn't going to instantly turn the team around, so add more prospects around him and keep building for the future.

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                              • Yeah...THAT Guy
                                Once in a Lifetime Memory
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 17294

                                #120
                                Re: NBA Draft 2023

                                Originally posted by ojandpizza
                                Spurs have cap space (I think) but man it would be nice if they had any sort of "future star" to build alongside Vemby.

                                LaMelo on the Hornets, Portland with whatever they land from flipping Dame, Pistons with Cade, Ivey, and Rockets with Smith, Green, and others all have better building blocks for future success IMO. Sure none of them have Pop and none of them have direction, but when you land a generational talent that is what gives you direction.

                                I like a lot of the Spurs guys but Keldon, Vassell, and that group is just a very mehh group with seemingly very mehh upside. Plenty of time to grow, and the right time to grow with, but none of their current pieces are "exciting", at least in the other situations you have a slimmer hope of what some of those guys could be if they "breakout".

                                Also sucks that they have the money but this years free-agent pool is only decent. Best case scenario at a max-level guy would be maybe Middleton? He's always hurt, DLo, VanVleet, LeVert, J Grant, J Clarkson, J Hart, Kuzma, most these dudes only move the needle so much and I'm assuming Harden, Kyrie, Porzingis, Westbrook, and so on are not on their radar.
                                Between the cap space and the assets, the Spurs could theoretically make moves and instantly vault themselves into contender status if they want to (and assuming they find trade partners that are willing to sell). A ton of draft picks, a bunch of young talented dudes, and cap space are all at their disposal. Really curious to see if they just continue to grow the team organically or try to get one more title before Pop retires.
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