NBA Draft 2023

[jeebs9]

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Speaking of the Thompson twins, part of me thinks/wants to see someone pull a Brian Burke (NHL) and trade up in the draft to get consecutive lottery picks and draft both twins.

If they work out, you have a solid duo who probably won't want to split up and could help carry your team while you get known for pulling off one of the bigger draft day moves ever (that Burke one is still talked about in hockey 25 years later)

The Magic are the one team who could really pull it off.

As much as I love a twin story. I will always remember what they did to the Morris twins in PHX with that bogus contract. That's why I say no to this idea.

[ojandpizza]

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Some draft news

[jeebs9]

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Some draft news

I read that like 10 times lol.


Also would anyone take a draft guaranteeing and cancel all your workouts for the other teams?

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1666980891548168198?s=20

I would never. You Can't trust anyone!

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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I read that like 10 times lol.


Also would anyone take a draft guaranteeing and cancel all your workouts for the other teams?

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1666980891548168198?s=20

I would never. You Can't trust anyone!

The Livingston stuff this draft season has been so strange. Was a pretty major disappointment at Kentucky. Has been a projected late 2nd/undrafted guy the entire draft cycle, and then opted out of playing in the Combine scrimmages, stayed in the draft, and now opting out of draft workouts.

I don't really understand why any team would have promised him anything in the first place lol.

[jeebs9]

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The Livingston stuff this draft season has been so strange. Was a pretty major disappointment at Kentucky. Has been a projected late 2nd/undrafted guy the entire draft cycle, and then opted out of playing in the Combine scrimmages, stayed in the draft, and now opting out of draft workouts.



I don't really understand why any team would have promised him anything in the first place lol.

Lol... I saw comments that his agent is playing the long game with this weak *** announcement [emoji23]

[georgiafan]

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I don't follow the draft that close, but whoever James Nnaji is passes the eye test

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1666837082248032258

[illwill10]

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Shams is reporting that Pelicans is looking to move up in the top 3 of draft go after Scoot Henderson.

If Hornets go Miller at #2, would Brandon Ingram and #14 be too much to move up to #3. Probably would have to throw in Simons to make the money work

[jeebs9]

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Shams is reporting that Pelicans is looking to move up in the top 3 of draft go after Scoot Henderson.

If Hornets go Miller at #2, would Brandon Ingram and #14 be too much to move up to #3. Probably would have to throw in Simons to make the money work

That's a nice move in my opinion. Pels need him.

[jeebs9]

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I don't follow the draft that close, but whoever James Nnaji is passes the eye test



https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/sta...37082248032258

Ibaka is working him out nice.

[georgiafan]

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Shams is reporting that Pelicans is looking to move up in the top 3 of draft go after Scoot Henderson.

If Hornets go Miller at #2, would Brandon Ingram and #14 be too much to move up to #3. Probably would have to throw in Simons to make the money work

I would think Ingram would have to be involved as going 14 to 2/3 is a big jump up. I know pelicans have some young people and assets, but I don’t think any of them is a signature own to go up 11 spots.

If I’m the hornets i would look to take the trade down package

[illwill10]

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I would think Ingram would have to be involved as going 14 to 2/3 is a big jump up. I know pelicans have some young people and assets, but I don’t think any of them is a signature own to go up 11 spots.

If I’m the hornets i would look to take the trade down package

Like I said in other thread, I'm would be interested in trading down. It's comes down to do you think either Scoot or Miller can be a superstar or not. If you do, then no thanks on a trade. It also comes down fit or BPA. Do Hornets value Scoot or Miller more. I don't think think Ball and Scoot fits together. So it's either do you like Ingram, Jones/Murphy, #14 more than Scoot or Miller.

At this point, I would try to start winning unless they think Scoot/Miller's upside is higher than Ingram. I would get Pelicans to take Rozier and look to flip Hayward for depth pieces. A Ball-Ingram-Herb Jones-Williams lineup, would just need a SG.

If the Hornets can get into the playoffs, that's a good season. It's plausible as well. They would likely be going against ATL, Brooklyn, Indiana in the play-in.

[J_Posse]

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Ibaka is working him out nice.

He's pretty raw and projects as more of a rim runner.


If this was 10 or 15 years ago he'd go in the late lottery, but he's likely going in the early - to - mid 2nd round, now.

If Wembanyama wasn't our (obvious) pick, then I would love him with one of our second-round picks.

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[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Don't really have the time to do the lengthy breakdowns I used to/the overseas class just isn't all that interesting to me this year (outside of Wemby obviously), but some guys that I feel are being slept on in this year's draft:

Leonard Miller - One of my most basic rules when it comes to the draft is to take young guys that are extremely productive seriously, particularly when they're doing it while still being pretty raw. Miller was probably the best player on G-League Ignite this season, including Scoot Henderson. Averaged 17 and 10 on 63.3% TS% and per 36 numbers of 20.5/12 and is still very young for the draft class. The mechanics on his jumper are a mess and the results have been bad too, but he did shoot a fairly promising 74% from the FT line the last two years. Really intriguing combination of size, ball-handling, and motor. To me, he's a top 5 prospect in the class.

Brandin Podziemski - Was a Mr. Basketball guy in his home state of Wisconsin. Sucked at Illinois as a freshman before transferring to Santa Clara and basically being a better version of Jalen Williams. Hilariously dominant rebounder for his size, averaging almost 10 rebounds per 40 minutes. His shot chart is basically just a duplicate of Jalen Williams from a year ago and he made some really fun reads as a passer as well. I don't love him love him, but I think in a relatively weak draft class like this one is IMO, you can justify a late lottery pick on him.

Brice Sensabaugh - Don't really love him/love this mold of player, but unlike guys like Nick Smith and Keyonte George, he was a very efficient scorer at all three levels on the floor. Definitely don't like the tunnel vision offensively or everything defensively, but if you're looking for someone to come off the bench and get you points (and maybe be a net-negative guy if you put him in a bigger role), Sensabaugh is a much better bet than Smith and George IMO. To me, in this class, that makes him a top 15-20 pick.

Jaime Jaquez Jr. - Over 22 years old already, but he was pretty decent right out the gate in college and has been good the last three years now. Simply a good all-around player. Can do a bit of everything offensively; be it scoring from the mid-range, posting guys up, making good reads, etc. The 3 point shot is, being kind, inconsistent right now, but there's nothing noticeably bad there. I think he'll end up figuring it out out of necessity in the NBA and stick long-term as a role player.

Julian Strawther/Seth Lundy - Grouping these two together because it's basically the same argument. They're projected as mid to late 2nd round picks and they're in the conversation for best shooters in the draft class and have at least decent size. Strawther is taller, a bit better attacking closeouts, and I think projects a bit better as a shooter. Lundy is shorter, but has a great wingspan and tries a lot harder defensively. I think once you get outside the top 20, you can do worse than simply taking guys that you're confident can be difference-making shooters at the next level and pray they survive defensively and that's what these two are.

Kobe Brown - Kinda reminds me of a cross between Wendell Moore and Justin Lewis from the last couple years. Pretty much identical build and athleticism to Justin Lewis while having the great feel, solid all-around game, and potentially outlier shooting of Wendell Moore. Like Moore, he was pretty much dreadful shooting the ball until he suddenly became lethal this season; I'm always skeptical of that, but the rest of his skillset is pretty impressive and maybe as he gets in NBA training rooms, he'll unlock some more lateral quickness to turn himself into a good all-around player. Currently projected as a mid to late 2nd round pick but I think he should be a first rounder personally.

[jeebs9]

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Don't really have the time to do the lengthy breakdowns I used to/the overseas class just isn't all that interesting to me this year (outside of Wemby obviously), but some guys that I feel are being slept on in this year's draft:



Leonard Miller - One of my most basic rules when it comes to the draft is to take young guys that are extremely productive seriously, particularly when they're doing it while still being pretty raw. Miller was probably the best player on G-League Ignite this season, including Scoot Henderson. Averaged 17 and 10 on 63.3% TS% and per 36 numbers of 20.5/12 and is still very young for the draft class. The mechanics on his jumper are a mess and the results have been bad too, but he did shoot a fairly promising 74% from the FT line the last two years. Really intriguing combination of size, ball-handling, and motor. To me, he's a top 5 prospect in the class.



Brandin Podziemski - Was a Mr. Basketball guy in his home state of Wisconsin. Sucked at Illinois as a freshman before transferring to Santa Clara and basically being a better version of Jalen Williams. Hilariously dominant rebounder for his size, averaging almost 10 rebounds per 40 minutes. His shot chart is basically just a duplicate of Jalen Williams from a year ago and he made some really fun reads as a passer as well. I don't love him love him, but I think in a relatively weak draft class like this one is IMO, you can justify a late lottery pick on him.



Brice Sensabaugh - Don't really love him/love this mold of player, but unlike guys like Nick Smith and Keyonte George, he was a very efficient scorer at all three levels on the floor. Definitely don't like the tunnel vision offensively or everything defensively, but if you're looking for someone to come off the bench and get you points (and maybe be a net-negative guy if you put him in a bigger role), Sensabaugh is a much better bet than Smith and George IMO. To me, in this class, that makes him a top 15-20 pick.



Jaime Jaquez Jr. - Over 22 years old already, but he was pretty decent right out the gate in college and has been good the last three years now. Simply a good all-around player. Can do a bit of everything offensively; be it scoring from the mid-range, posting guys up, making good reads, etc. The 3 point shot is, being kind, inconsistent right now, but there's nothing noticeably bad there. I think he'll end up figuring it out out of necessity in the NBA and stick long-term as a role player.



Julian Strawther/Seth Lundy - Grouping these two together because it's basically the same argument. They're projected as mid to late 2nd round picks and they're in the conversation for best shooters in the draft class and have at least decent size. Strawther is taller, a bit better attacking closeouts, and I think projects a bit better as a shooter. Lundy is shorter, but has a great wingspan and tries a lot harder defensively. I think once you get outside the top 20, you can do worse than simply taking guys that you're confident can be difference-making shooters at the next level and pray they survive defensively and that's what these two are.



Kobe Brown - Kinda reminds me of a cross between Wendell Moore and Justin Lewis from the last couple years. Pretty much identical build and athleticism to Justin Lewis while having the great feel, solid all-around game, and potentially outlier shooting of Wendell Moore. Like Moore, he was pretty much dreadful shooting the ball until he suddenly became lethal this season; I'm always skeptical of that, but the rest of his skillset is pretty impressive and maybe as he gets in NBA training rooms, he'll unlock some more lateral quickness to turn himself into a good all-around player. Currently projected as a mid to late 2nd round pick but I think he should be a first rounder personally.

Jaime Jaquez Jr definitely late round pick for a championship team. Can play immediately.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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More Draft News from Jake Fischer:

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-draft-with-victor-wembanyama-projected-at-no-1-uncertainty-looms-for-the-rest-of-the-top-10-165028198.html