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  • illwill10
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2009
    • 19827

    #46
    Re: 2023 Offseason Thread



    If you get the context of this with Doc, this is hilarious lol

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    • illwill10
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2009
      • 19827

      #47
      Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by georgiafan
      Do you think this means Harden stays now ?
      It does suggest so. Morey has a bromance with Harden. I'm only.okay with Harden staying if he is willing to play on the player option. I don't want to see them make a HC hiring that is for Harden when you don't know if you want to commit long term to both

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      • Majingir
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        • Apr 2005
        • 47636

        #48
        Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

        5 coaching vacancies, 6 if we count the Rockets having an opening before their signing, and most are big name coaches let go.

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        • ojandpizza
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          • Apr 2011
          • 29807

          #49
          Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
          David Fizdale.

          Memphis he was doing good. Forgot why he got fired. Got to NY and it was downhill from there and I haven’t heard from him since
          Think he was butting heads with some players (Gasol) and management. They got off to a really bad start of his 2nd year there, then he benched Marc in the 4th quarter of game that ultimately lead to their 8th straight loss and he was gone.

          Team wasn't good though, hey had moved on from ZBo, Allen, Vince, Mike Conley was hurt, they had just given all that money to Parsons, and the younger guys they took a chance on Mario Chalmers, Ben McLemore, Andrew Harrison, James Ennis, were all booty cheeks. But he was also trying to cut Marc out for guys like Jarrell Martin and Deyonta Davis, and neither of those guys were even NBA roster caliber guys.

          Think he took the fall ultimately from a poorly constructed team, but had also alienated their best player, and Mike was out too. Only thing good that came out of that team was Dillon Brooks having a solid rookie year especially for a 2nd round pick, and JaMychal Green looking like he could be a solid part of their core for the next few years... (but then they traded him for Avery Bradley for whatever reason).

          Those ****ty 2-3 years though led to Kleiman replacing Wallace, hiring Jenkins, drafting JJJ, Clarke, Ja, Bane, flipping Gasol for JV then for Adams.. All of which have been really positive moves for a quick turnaround.

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          • Majingir
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            • Apr 2005
            • 47636

            #50
            Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

            Masai and Doc Rivers have a long history, and he most recently was a guy they were looking at before deciding to have Nurse be coach once Casey left. I wonder if that gets revisited now.

            Not that Doc would be the best of choices the Raptors could make, but just makes you wonder.

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            • illwill10
              Hall Of Fame
              • Mar 2009
              • 19827

              #51
              Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by Majingir
              Masai and Doc Rivers have a long history, and he most recently was a guy they were looking at before deciding to have Nurse be coach once Casey left. I wonder if that gets revisited now.

              Not that Doc would be the best of choices the Raptors could make, but just makes you wonder.
              Just like Nurse has history with Morey when Nurse was the G-League coach of the Rockets affiliate team. I wouldn't mind Nurse.

              Main thing I want i was see is a coach who can develop young guys. I exclude Maxey, well at least put more of the credit with Cassell than Doc with Maxey' development.

              I see Doc taking the year off. Doc doesn't want to rebuild. I see him taking a job that has a higher floor.
              Last edited by illwill10; 05-16-2023, 06:53 PM.

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              • georgiafan
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                • Jul 2002
                • 11112

                #52
                Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

                ESPN has many holes as a company, but none of them are more obvious then draft coverage on tv.
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                • ojandpizza
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                  • Apr 2011
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                  #53
                  Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

                  Vic to the Spurs damn!

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                  • georgiafan
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 11112

                    #54
                    Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

                    Everyone is going to say It’s a great spot for him and I guess overall it is. But I don’t believe Pop is the coach that can win anything in todays NBA.

                    I think they have a lot of cap space as well this summer
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                    • ProfessaPackMan
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                      • Mar 2008
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                      #55
                      Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by georgiafan
                      Everyone is going to say It’s a great spot for him and I guess overall it is. But I don’t believe Pop is the coach that can win anything in todays NBA.

                      I think they have a lot of cap space as well this summer
                      What really has changed between the last time they won it and now as far as the game?
                      #RespectTheCulture

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                      • J_Posse
                        Greatness Personified
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 11255

                        #56
                        Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                        What really has changed between the last time they won it and now as far as the game?
                        Teams do use the three-pointer as their primary offense a lot more than in 2014. Still, the league hasn't changed that much between now and then.
                        Originally posted by georgiafan
                        Everyone is going to say It’s a great spot for him and I guess overall it is. But I don’t believe Pop is the coach that can win anything in todays NBA.

                        I think they have a lot of cap space as well this summer
                        I think Pop isn't too worried about wins and losses. I think it's about helping develop the young guys and just purely coaching at this point.

                        If he had a veteran group and another superstar around he could easily still be winning.

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                        • ojandpizza
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                          • Apr 2011
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                          #57
                          Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                          What really has changed between the last time they won it and now as far as the game?
                          Today's better defensive schemes are largely based on schemes Pop was the first to use, so I'd say they are fine in that sense. Threes have boomed even more so than when they were competing that last year with Kawhi, but it's not THAT much different.

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                          • ProfessaPackMan
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                            • Mar 2008
                            • 63852

                            #58
                            Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

                            In case folks are thirsty for some offseason news, Chris Haynes dropped some info:

                            Philadelphia 76ers star James Harden intends to decline his $35.6 million player option to become an unrestricted free agent this summer in order to secure a long-term deal, league sources tell Bleacher Report.
                            #RespectTheCulture

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                            • ojandpizza
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
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                              #59
                              Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

                              Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                              In case folks are thirsty for some offseason news, Chris Haynes dropped some info:

                              https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...y-lue-and-more
                              I know Dame prefers to stay and try to get a winner around him, but from the Portland side of things I have no idea why they won't move him and just start over. What are you getting back for that pick that takes you from 27 wins, 33 wins to contender.

                              That doesn't even factor in the money situation. Grant's contract is up and I don't think they have free money to replace him. So they are also banking on him choosing to stay on his own, after he's openly said in the past he doesn't like the idea of wanting to be some 4th option guy and he would have to have faith that they will improve dramatically as well.

                              And as much as I like Dame, they've never been able to field a good defensive team with him there, and it's not like they've won or came close to winning to give them the idea that winning it all with him is even realistic to begin with.

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                              • illwill10
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 19827

                                #60
                                Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

                                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                                In case folks are thirsty for some offseason news, Chris Haynes dropped some info:

                                https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...y-lue-and-more
                                I do not want to see them commit long tern to Harden. I rather see them let him walk than commit 4 years to him.

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