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  • l3ulvl
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    • Dec 2009
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    #811
    Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

    Originally posted by CabreraMVP
    How good has Stuckey looked playing shooting guard this week? Offensively, the only thing he is good at doing is getting the basket, he's nearly unstoppable. At the 2, that's the only thing he has to worry about doing. Him Playing off the ball makes the team much better.
    Originally posted by matthewj
    And its still gonna take him awhile to really feel comfortable at the 2 since for the last 3 yrs they've been forcing the pg duties on him so now its like everything the coaches have been trying to get him to do as a point guard they need him to forget lol.
    This is why for now I say play Stuckey as the 6th man. Especially with TMac starting at the point, you can have BG start at SG which makes for a good defensive matchup and Gordon can guard the opponents PG on D.

    Also, when I try to describe Stuckey's game, I call him a "drive guard", I don't know if anyone else has already coined the term (probably) but I think it describes him perfectly. Everyone wants to label him as either a point guard or shooting guard and he just doesn't fit either role well, he's amazing at getting to the rim so I figure just call him a drive guard and let him be the 6th man, first guy off the bench and do his thing. Get to the rim and pile up points/fouls.
    Last edited by l3ulvl; 01-17-2011, 01:41 AM.
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    • youvalss
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      • Feb 2007
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      #812
      Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

      I want to believe that during the next summer, Stuckey will work on his mid-range jumper, and become much more dangerous. Stuckey + consistent J = awesomeness!
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      • CabreraMVP
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        • Sep 2010
        • 1437

        #813
        Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

        A jumper would be nice, but honestly he's great without it. I dont think there is a single player in the league who can stop him going to the rim. He's surprisingly quick, he's strong, and if he doesn't finish he gets to the line where he is shooting 85%.

        Him as PG is a weak spot for the team, and hurts the team honestly. But him at SG is a huge improvement, and makes the team much better. It's almost addition by subtraction.

        Against Dallas, every time he gets the ball he just attacks the rim and he can't be stopped. He had 20 points on 8 shots to go with 6 assists.

        I think the Pistons will look for a point guard this offseason. Moving Stuckey over now shows me that they are serious about having him play there in the future, or else they wouldn't stunt his growth as a 1 right now. It's a great move.

        A nice pass first PG, with Stuckey at the 2 and Gordon off the bench is solid. Especially with Bynum off the bench.

        Monroe is playing amazing and Jerebko is making good progress in rehab. I like what they are going to be able to do for the frontcourt in the future.
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        • matthewj
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          • Aug 2009
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          #814
          Originally posted by CabreraMVP
          A jumper would be nice, but honestly he's great without it. I dont think there is a single player in the league who can stop him going to the rim. He's surprisingly quick, he's strong, and if he doesn't finish he gets to the line where he is shooting 85%.

          Him as PG is a weak spot for the team, and hurts the team honestly. But him at SG is a huge improvement, and makes the team much better. It's almost addition by subtraction.

          Against Dallas, every time he gets the ball he just attacks the rim and he can't be stopped. He had 20 points on 8 shots to go with 6 assists.

          I think the Pistons will look for a point guard this offseason. Moving Stuckey over now shows me that they are serious about having him play there in the future, or else they wouldn't stunt his growth as a 1 right now. It's a great move.

          A nice pass first PG, with Stuckey at the 2 and Gordon off the bench is solid. Especially with Bynum off the bench.

          Monroe is playing amazing and Jerebko is making good progress in rehab. I like what they are going to be able to do for the frontcourt in the future.
          A jumper would just give him another weapon. He can be an all-star at the 2 and we know he can still move the ball when he needs to from our overly long look at him at the point. If they can get a legit stretch 4 who has a decent post game the offense would look good.

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          • rdnk
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            • Feb 2009
            • 5730

            #815
            Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

            Yeah we really need a PG. Also, they need to trade Rip sooner than later. No need to have a disgruntled guy in that locker room.
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            • l3ulvl
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              #816
              Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

              Originally posted by rdnk
              Yeah we really need a PG. Also, they need to trade Rip sooner than later. No need to have a disgruntled guy in that locker room.
              We were hanging in there tonight until Chauncey went into Big Shot mode circa 2003-2007. I also saw Stuckey get hurt earlier on a harsh moving screen by Melo, hope he isn't out long. I agree about needing a pg, I think McGrady is doing well but he's not a long term answer.
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              • Kruza
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                • Jul 2002
                • 6285

                #817
                Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                The thing with Rodney Stuckey is not his own skills, but which other guard is on the floor with him. If the guard on the floor with Stuckey can't shoot the basketball well, then that will limit Stuckey's ability to get to the rim. And we all know Stuckey doesn't have a great jumper, so this problem could stifle the half-court offense. I don't think moving Stuckey solely to the 2-guard spot is necessarily the answer either due to this.

                At any rate, it's not that Stuckey isn't a capable enough of a passer to be a point guard because I think he is. In fact, Stuckey can run half-court plays the way the coach has it designed like any typical point guard. The issue is what Stuckey does whenever multiple options within an executed play are defended well while the shot clock is running down and teammates get the basketball back to him. So in this situation he's forced to quickly rely solely on his instincts to make something happen on his own. For Stuckey, his "score at all costs" pure shooting guard mentality take over, whereas a player with a point guard state of mind would look to make best play to get a score whether it's from doing so himself or by dishing off to a teammate. Also, unfortunately Stuckey's not a guy who can be counted on to improvise at times to consistently create scoring opportunities through secondary fast breaks -- the scenario in where all five defenders are back but are not matched up on their assigned man. These are the two main things which I think separates decent PGs from the great ones.

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                • youvalss
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                  • Feb 2007
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                  #818
                  Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                  How about someone like...Jerryd Bayless? I love his game in Toronto! He can score, is a good passer and doesn't afraid of anything. He would really fit nicely with the tough team style that the Pistons once had...

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                  • Kruza
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                    • Jul 2002
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                    #819
                    Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                    Jerryd Bayless' J is about as broke as Stuckey's. Bayless does find people in traffic better with his passing ability though.

                    The Pistons need size more than anything, however. This team still gets owned defensively by opposing teams that have a talented big who can score down low, and get killed on the boards by teams who have two or more long, athletic bigs who has a knack for grabbing rebounds.

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                    • youvalss
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                      • Feb 2007
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                      #820
                      Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                      I would say the Pistons need...everything.
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                      • rdnk
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                        • Feb 2009
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                        #821
                        Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                        Originally posted by youvalss
                        I would say the Pistons need...everything.
                        I dunno, I think we're pretty stocked at SG.
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                        • Kruza
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                          • Jul 2002
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                          #822
                          Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                          Originally posted by youvalss
                          I would say the Pistons need...everything.
                          Nah, I wouldn't go that far. The Pistons have a surplus of shooting/combo guards and also hybrid forwards who can defend multiple positions. The cupboard of talent on this team isn't bare by any means.

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                          • youvalss
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                            • Feb 2007
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                            #823
                            Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                            It was more of a joke...

                            Anyway, I've been watching many Raptors games (for some reason they think here that all Canadians are Raptors fans...but to tell you the truth, I only watch these games because I like basketbas and also to see them losing)... so...where was I? Oh yeah, Raptors games - and I see Amir Johnson playing so well! And I'm so sorry he's not with the Pistons anymore, he's such a solid big man these days.
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                            • Kruza
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                              • Jul 2002
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                              #824
                              Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                              Well, it looks like the Pistons will finally have a new owner that will reportedly be announced later today according to the Detroit Free Press:

                              Tom Gores reached deal to buy Pistons

                              We may now see this team make a deal or two leading up to the deadline.

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                              • Steve_OS
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                                • Jul 2002
                                • 33907

                                #825
                                Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                                Nice, was wondering what was going on w/ the sale.
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