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  • l3ulvl
    Hall Of Fame
    • Dec 2009
    • 17242

    #946
    Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

    Originally posted by redsrule
    I could see that honestly.
    C Vill will be amnestied at the end of the year so that will open cap space too.
    I'm hoping they get lucky and get a top 5 pick and Monroe and Knight are only going to get better.
    My pipe dream is if we don't draft a big in the 1st, sign Kaman in the offseason.
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    • Kruza
      Mainstream Outlaw
      • Jul 2002
      • 6285

      #947
      Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

      The moves the Pistons need to make during this offseason are obvious and has been discussed here time and again. But I want to add that I would like to see Kyle Singler play for the Pistons next year over Austin Daye. It would be nice to see Daye moved for a future draft pick or something along those lines.

      I also want to see what Vernon Macklin for the rest of this season. He put up some really good numbers during his short stint in the D-League.

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      • l3ulvl
        Hall Of Fame
        • Dec 2009
        • 17242

        #948
        Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

        Originally posted by Kruza
        The moves the Pistons need to make during this offseason are obvious and has been discussed here time and again. But I want to add that I would like to see Kyle Singler play for the Pistons next year over Austin Daye. It would be nice to see Daye moved for a future draft pick or something along those lines.

        I also want to see what Vernon Macklin for the rest of this season. He put up some really good numbers during his short stint in the D-League.

        Kruza
        I don't like Daye at all. If we got a 2nd rounder for him I'd be ecstatic. Macklin was a beast in the NBDL lol, he's not as young as a typical rook so we need to look at him now, can't afford to baby him along.
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        • muggins
          It is now the SW Era
          • May 2003
          • 5379

          #949
          Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

          Man Austin Daye was my favorite player last year but he has been just garbage this year. Super disappointing amid a team full of rising stars.
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          • redsrule
            All Star
            • Apr 2010
            • 9396

            #950
            Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

            Next year they should be a lot more improved, and depending on their luck in the lottery it could be a very fun year.
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            • redsrule
              All Star
              • Apr 2010
              • 9396

              #951
              Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

              How can they go from up by 50 to losing by 30 in back to back games :/
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              • l3ulvl
                Hall Of Fame
                • Dec 2009
                • 17242

                #952
                Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                Originally posted by redsrule
                How can they go from up by 50 to losing by 30 in back to back games :/
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                • redsrule
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                  • Apr 2010
                  • 9396

                  #953
                  Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                  Originally posted by l3ulvl
                  Why do they still even have him :/
                  Can we ship him to Charlotte for a pair of Jordans?
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                  • l3ulvl
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 17242

                    #954
                    Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                    Originally posted by redsrule
                    Why do they still even have him :/
                    Can we ship him to Charlotte for a pair of Jordans?
                    He's one of my least favorite Pistons of all time lol
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                    • redsrule
                      All Star
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 9396

                      #955
                      Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                      Originally posted by l3ulvl
                      He's one of my least favorite Pistons of all time lol
                      They probably drafted him thinking hey maybe he can be like Tayshaun. That worked well
                      He is alright in 2k though b/c of dem threes
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                      • Psyblast
                        2023 National Champions
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 42582

                        #956
                        Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                        Dumars has a very sketchy track record when it comes to the draft (and that's putting it nicely). Not surprised at all that Austin Daye is a trainwreck. Cleaves, White, Darko, Sharpe, Daye, all epic failures.

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                        • redsrule
                          All Star
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 9396

                          #957
                          Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                          Originally posted by Psyblast
                          Dumars has a very sketchy track record when it comes to the draft (and that's putting it nicely). Not surprised at all that Austin Daye is a trainwreck. Cleaves, White, Darko, Sharpe, Daye, all epic failures.
                          I am still crying from that 03 draft. We couldsa had Melo, Wade, Bosh.
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                          • pietasterp
                            All Star
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 6244

                            #958
                            Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                            Originally posted by redsrule
                            I am still crying from that 03 draft. We couldsa had Melo, Wade, Bosh.
                            I think we went through this last year...but I wrote an overlong tome at that time about the most criticized recent Pistons moves (Darko, signing Gordon and Villanueva), and why they made sense at the time. Obviously, it didn't work out. But there was logic there. It happens.

                            Anyway, even had we drafted Melo, Wade, or Bosh, would any of them still be on the roster today? And would we have won anything more than we did in the interim?

                            Having said that, I don't actually think this current Pistons team is that far off from being decent. There are signs that a competitive team is in there somewhere, and among the lottery-bound teams, I don't think you could ask for a better nucleus than Greg Monroe-Brandon Knight-Rodney Stuckey (although I kind of dislike Stuckey...IMO we overpaid for his services, and he's basically a volume scorer which is not all that rare in the NBA). They have to get to the point where they're more consistent, but they are already starting to be competitive on a nightly basis (that Hawks game notwithstanding....).

                            I have no idea why they re-signed Tayshaun (or Stuckey for that matter), but in my view, Monroe and Knight are untouchables, Jerebko is a keeper, and everyone else on the roster is fair game for trade bait or salary dumps. If it doesn't cost too much, Maxiell is useful as a hustle and glue guy. I'd ship Daye out of town for a ham sandwich.

                            Depending on what happens with the draft, they could add some depth, and they'd really be on to something, I think. A lot of success in the NBA has to do with timing, so maybe we'll be on pace to make our ascent just as current giants are falling/re-tooling. Which would be fine by me...

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                            • rdnk
                              All Star
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 5730

                              #959
                              Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                              Clearly a season of two unequal halves; first half- 4-20, second half- 21-21. We'd only be two games out of the 8 seed with a .500 record. If Dumars can draft an impact rookie, then we could potentially sneak into the playoffs next year.

                              Also, nice sendoff for Big Ben.
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                              • pietasterp
                                All Star
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 6244

                                #960
                                Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                                Agree...but Dumars is definitely on the hot-seat now. I've been a defender of Gentleman Joe for a long time, but given the disaster that the team became in the past few years, he needs to prove he wasn't a one-hit wonder...and he needs to do it sooner rather than later.

                                I have mixed feelings on Big Ben...in 2004 he was one of my favorite Pistons of all time, even reaching the rareified air of the likes of Isiah, Billy, Ricky...but then he bolted for the cash in Chicago (can't blame him, but I'd be lying if I said it didn't color my view of his post-Pistons career), proved himself to be more-or-less a product of the Carlisle/Brown defensive system while doing nothing to address his overwhelming offensive defeciencies or expand his game in any way (and proving no better than the other spoiled-brat NBA types with his petulant headband row with Skiles), journeyman'd around the league to Cleveland, then found his way back home, where he was part of a completely undeserved arrogant, entitled group of spoiled brats that embarrassed a regal NBA franchise by running coach after coach out of town and culminating in the completely inexcusable "player boycott" last season. I mean, I never thought I'd see the day, but his post-2004 career has at this point eclipsed all the good will he'd built up prior to that, and at this point I wouldn't even consider myself a fan of Wallace's anymore. Whatever happened to that shy, quiet, hard-working guy that was glad for any minutes he could get and only cared about "goin' to work"? It seems like a lifetime ago...

                                At this point, it's not clear to me that he should even have his jersey raised to the Palace rafters (although he certainly will)...I mean, to have him up there next to Thomas, Laimbeer, Dumars...he hardly fits in the constellation if you ask me. But then, nobody did, so I'll just pipe down...

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