***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

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  • pietasterp
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    • Feb 2004
    • 6244

    #1021
    Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

    My probably-way-too-early observations:

    1) Stuckey needs to go...he is one of my least favorite "types" of NBA player in the world: a volume scorer. Sure he can go get you 22 points, but he'll do it on 8-for-20 shooting, most of them bad contested jumpers and hopeless headlong drives into a crowded paint, where he is apparently under the impression that he is Dwayne Wade or Kobe and can get any call anytime he wants. Wrong. In addition, he plays no defense; or at least none worth noting. Plus, his part in that shameful walk-out 2 seasons ago is not forgotten, and his general attitude in my opinion stinks. Some team will want his services under the misguided impression that he's a good scorer on a bad team. I'd ship him out of town for a ham sandwich.

    2) Tayshaun needs to go if we can get a worthwhile part or pick back. He's been a loyal Piston and I have no ill-will toward him whatsoever (although he does seem to sulk and was also involved in the aforementioned "boycott" a few seasons back IIRC), but I just find myself wondering what the heck he's doing on this team? By which I mean, we're at least a few seasons away from being a contender, and he's not really a foundational player around which you build. He's a great addition to any team 1-2 guys away from being serious title threats, but on the current re-building / work-in-progress roster, he's just kind of....there. He goes out and tries to get us 15-10 or whatever, but every time he's on the court I just get the feeling he's going through the motions. I mean, he was never the most overly emotional guy out there anyway (which is why he was such a good counter-point on the "Goin' to work" squads), but right now he just looks passion-less out there. Maybe just my interpretation, though.

    3) Lawrence Frank....I'm just not sold on this guy. I never really liked him in New Jersey, and at some point the Pistons have to stop the musical chairs that is their head coaching position, but I just don't see what's so good about him that he keeps getting head coaching jobs. He's not a brilliant tactician, he's average (at best) at player development, I hear he's fine with player relations, but on the whole....he gets a big "meh" from me. I think you gotta stick with him and give him a chance since you hired the guy, but I'm not really expecting great things. I hear Larry Brown is coaching again....

    4) The young nucleus is promising; I think our starting lineup at this point should be (assuming we cut bait on Stuckey and Tayshaun as above): Knight - English - Jerebko - Maxiell - Monroe. Get Drummond some real PT to let him learn, see if Singler and Middleton can contribute, sprinkle in Kravstov and evaluate Daye to see if he's an NBA player or not.

    5) Someone please take Villanueva off our hands....please. Anyone. We'll take a bag of basketballs. Seriously.


    If this team can't learn to play with a lead, it's going to be a long season....

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    • l3ulvl
      Hall Of Fame
      • Dec 2009
      • 17250

      #1022
      Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

      I'm looking forward to the Drummond/Monroe future frontcourt. Monroe is off to a slow start this year but he'll be fine. Keep increasing Drummond's minutes, he could be real good. Even if his offense never develops, he can be a great rim protector.
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      • pietasterp
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        • Feb 2004
        • 6244

        #1023
        Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

        Yeah, I think Drummond-Monroe could be awesome. I think Moose is struggling right now because he's trying to do too much, trying to kind of be "the guy" instead of just letting the game develop as it will. It's okay, though, because he seems committed to developing new parts of his game (a legit jumper, perimter passing) that will serve him/us well in the future, even if it looks bad now. Stuckey...whatever. I made my feelings clear on him earlier. And Lawrence Frank, seriously - I'm not deluded enough to think this is a playoff team this year, but you don't give yourself any kind of chance when you spot the rest of the league 4+ games to start the year. Our schedule is tough for sure, but still - the stats on teams making any kind of a season when they start 0-5, 0-6, 0-7, etc. are pretty tough...

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        • redsrule
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          • Apr 2010
          • 9396

          #1024
          Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

          Why can't we completely suck next year, and get the #1 overall pick and a wing like Andrew Wiggins? This year, imo, the best two prospects are both big men (who wed don't need)...
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          • Psyblast
            2023 National Champions
            • Jun 2003
            • 42584

            #1025
            Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

            What a sad joke this franchise has become.

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            • pietasterp
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              • Feb 2004
              • 6244

              #1026
              Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

              ....sooooooo....who do you guys think we should take #1 overall?

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              • redsrule
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                • Apr 2010
                • 9396

                #1027
                Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                Trade the pick back with a hope & prayer we can get Andrew Wiggins. We should be set for a long time with Monroe/Drummond, and we have a good point guard of the future as well. We need a quality wing.
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                • l3ulvl
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 17250

                  #1028
                  Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                  Originally posted by redsrule
                  Trade the pick back with a hope & prayer we can get Andrew Wiggins. We should be set for a long time with Monroe/Drummond, and we have a good point guard of the future as well. We need a quality wing.
                  The whole Wiggins thing confuses me. I was suggesting him for guys on another forum and was informed that he's still in HS. I was stating something about his recent reclassification but they said it doesn't matter, he's a HS senior. I guess it makes sense since I don't know what school he's at right now so how can he be in the draft? Idunno maybe someone can clear it up for me, but as for now I think Shabazz sounds pretty good. Not like Frank would play him anyway. Seriously, can we put Drummond in the damn game more?
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                  • redsrule
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                    • Apr 2010
                    • 9396

                    #1029
                    Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                    Originally posted by l3ulvl
                    The whole Wiggins thing confuses me. I was suggesting him for guys on another forum and was informed that he's still in HS. I was stating something about his recent reclassification but they said it doesn't matter, he's a HS senior. I guess it makes sense since I don't know what school he's at right now so how can he be in the draft? Idunno maybe someone can clear it up for me, but as for now I think Shabazz sounds pretty good. Not like Frank would play him anyway. Seriously, can we put Drummond in the damn game more?
                    He will be in the loaded 2014 draft class. This years class is extremely weak, which is another reason I wanted the Pistons to make the playoffs this year, so they don't lose next years pick to Charlotte.
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                    • pietasterp
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                      • Feb 2004
                      • 6244

                      #1030
                      Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                      Stuckey sits = Pistons win. I mean, I don't want to over-conclude here based on a single game, and certainly the opposition had something to do with it, but when you don't have 18-22 wasted possessions and someone actually buying into the 5-man-unit concept in the lineup, the results can be positive.

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                      • Psyblast
                        2023 National Champions
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 42584

                        #1031
                        Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                        13 points, 13 rebounds for Drummond in 24 minutes off the bench.


                        Why is he still coming off the bench?

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                        • l3ulvl
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 17250

                          #1032
                          Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                          Originally posted by Psyblast
                          13 points, 13 rebounds for Drummond in 24 minutes off the bench.


                          Why is he still coming off the bench?
                          It's indefensible.
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                          • redsrule
                            All Star
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 9396

                            #1033
                            Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                            Pretty much. He definitely should be starting. Anyways, can we trade Stuckey for a bag of peanuts?
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                            • pietasterp
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                              • Feb 2004
                              • 6244

                              #1034
                              Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                              10-years ago, I would have said Drummond should still watch and wait because he's just a pup...but it's a different time, a different game, and a different era. He looks ready, the league is welcoming to 19-year-olds, and he's probably already the 2nd best player on the team. He's gotta start.

                              We need a long-term solution at head-coach, though. Lawrence Frank is not the guy. I think I can now say that with confidence.

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                              • redsrule
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                                • Apr 2010
                                • 9396

                                #1035
                                Re: ***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

                                They've won 4 of their last 7. Playoffs here we come!
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