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  • sirjam
    MVP
    • Oct 2002
    • 3535

    #16
    Re: Jones Tarver 3

    I like both but I am pulling for Jones. Tarver was on quite frankly. He didn't really say anything to bad but it was some disses on the sneak.

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    • videobastard
      MVP
      • Aug 2004
      • 3388

      #17
      Re: Jones Tarver 3

      Jones will lose again. He is no longer fighting cup cakes and this is the result of it.

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      • sexybabygurl
        Rookie
        • Sep 2005
        • 14

        #18
        Re: Jones Tarver 3

        only reason i say that is cuz he hasnt knocked out anyone in like 3-5yrz most of roy fights are long distances but i hope he proves me wrong and beats tarver..the last fight he looked real bad sleeping on the boxing ring

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        • marq
          Pro
          • Jul 2003
          • 549

          #19
          Re: Jones Tarver 3

          I think Roy fought as many cupcakes as Hopkins has over his career (until the very end). He beat all who were in front of him with the exception of Glenn Johnson, and i believe a focused Roy would've beat him easy. Though the second fight was short, Roy appeared to be in control until that haymaker floored him. Tarver only landed 7 shots. Should be interesting, but I hope Roy finally silences all of his critics so that his great career could be recognized for the history that he made.

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          • Mjphillips
            MVP
            • Feb 2005
            • 1153

            #20
            Re: Jones Tarver 3

            Were ya'll watching the second fight. Tarver beat him like he should have the first fight. He Roy did get caught, but damn Roy almost never gets caught. It is a new day, but not for Roy. Fight Night 3 will not have Roy on the box.
            They call me "The Manual"

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            • JohnJohnson
              Banned
              • Jul 2005
              • 320

              #21
              Re: Jones Tarver 3

              People calling fighters soft or scared need to rethink what they're saying. These guys are putting their lives on the line everytime they step into the ring, you have to respect that. They're all warriors.

              Jones is a better boxer than Tarver, simple as that. If it goes 12, Jones is going to win. However, Jones could get KO'd again. His chin has been exposed. People want to talk about how his reflexes aren't what they once were, and that's true. People want to say that he doesn't counter as effectively as he used to and his hand speed isn't what it was, and that's true. That's not why he might get KO'd again. He's never, NEVER, seen the punches well against southpaws. And Tarver has as much power in his left hand as any fighter at 175. Roy handpicked his opponents his whole career. He avoided big punchers and southpaws. He and/or his promoters were hiding his achilles heel.

              If you remember, he fought Lou Del Valle. Del Valle was a hard punching southpaw and he put Roy Jones on his back. He never fought another southpaw until his fight with Tarver.

              I love Roy and I'm going to be rooting for him. I think he'll win the fight. He'll be discplined defensively and I think he's on a mission.

              Roy Jones by UD 116-112 on all cards

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              • JohnJohnson
                Banned
                • Jul 2005
                • 320

                #22
                Re: Jones Tarver 3

                Originally posted by marq
                I think Roy fought as many cupcakes as Hopkins has over his career (until the very end). He beat all who were in front of him with the exception of Glenn Johnson, and i believe a focused Roy would've beat him easy. Though the second fight was short, Roy appeared to be in control until that haymaker floored him. Tarver only landed 7 shots. Should be interesting, but I hope Roy finally silences all of his critics so that his great career could be recognized for the history that he made.
                Let me make one thing clear,

                Glen Johnson would have beaten anyone on that night.



                Roy and Hopkins were both unfortunate to have came up about 5 years too late, or fortunate depending on how you look at it. 160 was the best division in boxing in the late 80s and early 90s. James Toney and Gerald McClellan, the other two big time American middleweights coming up around that time, caught the tail end of it.

                A lot of people don't want to admit it, but the last thing Roy Jones wanted was a rematch with Hopkins or Toney. Those are the two biggest wins of his career. He ran into Bernard Hopkins before Bernard was what he is today. Hopkins was very green as a boxer back in 93. He crafted his style after his fight with Jones and surpassed Jones as a boxer. He ran into an out of shape James Toney. Toney is the most skilled boxer of this class. James Toney's biggest problem is James Toney. Jones intentionally priced himself out of rematches with Hopkins and Toney.

                I really wish that Jones and Hopkins had come along earlier than they did. It would have been nice to see them fight the great fighters of that time. Mike McCallum, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubanks, Steve Collins, Sumbu Kalambay, Michael Nunn, Iran Barkley, etc. There were just so many in the late 80s. They came along right after Hearns, Hagler, Leonard, and Duran. 160 was a great division for so long but it just wasn't what it was by the time Hopkins and Jones came along.

                If McClellan had never suffered the fate that he did. And if Jones and Toney elected to stay at 160 pounds. There could have been some wars, but it never materialized. Jones went to fight at 175, which has actually been a weaker division than 160.

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                • thelwig14
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 3145

                  #23
                  Re: Jones Tarver 3

                  Originally posted by JohnJohnson
                  Let me make one thing clear,

                  Glen Johnson would have beaten anyone on that night.



                  Roy and Hopkins were both unfortunate to have came up about 5 years too late, or fortunate depending on how you look at it. 160 was the best division in boxing in the late 80s and early 90s. James Toney and Gerald McClellan, the other two big time American middleweights coming up around that time, caught the tail end of it.

                  A lot of people don't want to admit it, but the last thing Roy Jones wanted was a rematch with Hopkins or Toney. Those are the two biggest wins of his career. He ran into Bernard Hopkins before Bernard was what he is today. Hopkins was very green as a boxer back in 93. He crafted his style after his fight with Jones and surpassed Jones as a boxer. He ran into an out of shape James Toney. Toney is the most skilled boxer of this class. James Toney's biggest problem is James Toney. Jones intentionally priced himself out of rematches with Hopkins and Toney.

                  I really wish that Jones and Hopkins had come along earlier than they did. It would have been nice to see them fight the great fighters of that time. Mike McCallum, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubanks, Steve Collins, Sumbu Kalambay, Michael Nunn, Iran Barkley, etc. There were just so many in the late 80s. They came along right after Hearns, Hagler, Leonard, and Duran. 160 was a great division for so long but it just wasn't what it was by the time Hopkins and Jones came along.

                  If McClellan had never suffered the fate that he did. And if Jones and Toney elected to stay at 160 pounds. There could have been some wars, but it never materialized. Jones went to fight at 175, which has actually been a weaker division than 160.
                  I respect your boxing knowledge and your ability to develop a logical argument without groupthink.

                  I will be pretty surprised if Roy wins. I think Roy, along with Tyson and Hopkins, are good boxers who have been mistakenly labeled as great ones. I think the fight will go the distance and barring corruption by the judges, I think Tarver wins handily 116-112 on two cards and 117-111 on the other.

                  I personally will be waiting for the HBO replay next week. I think the undercard took a major hit when Briggs could not get contracted and I am afraid the headliner will not live up to the hype (many fights can't).

                  I will be watching fatass (Toney) in HD on showtime. I think Toney-Guinn and Byrd-Williamson will end up being a better card and $40 cheaper.

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                  • JohnJohnson
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 320

                    #24
                    Re: Jones Tarver 3

                    Originally posted by thelwig14
                    I respect your boxing knowledge and your ability to develop a logical argument without groupthink.

                    I will be pretty surprised if Roy wins. I think Roy, along with Tyson and Hopkins, are good boxers who have been mistakenly labeled as great ones. I think the fight will go the distance and barring corruption by the judges, I think Tarver wins handily 116-112 on two cards and 117-111 on the other.

                    I personally will be waiting for the HBO replay next week. I think the undercard took a major hit when Briggs could not get contracted and I am afraid the headliner will not live up to the hype (many fights can't).

                    I will be watching fatass (Toney) in HD on showtime. I think Toney-Guinn and Byrd-Williamson will end up being a better card and $40 cheaper.
                    I'm going to have the PPV up on my computer and showtime on the TV.

                    Toney and Byrd would likely fight each other if they both win. But I would not, at all, be surprised if Williamson gives Byrd the Touch of Sleep.

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                    • sirjam
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 3535

                      #25
                      Re: Jones Tarver 3

                      Originally posted by thelwig14
                      I respect your boxing knowledge and your ability to develop a logical argument without groupthink.

                      I will be pretty surprised if Roy wins. I think Roy, along with Tyson and Hopkins, are good boxers who have been mistakenly labeled as great ones. I think the fight will go the distance and barring corruption by the judges, I think Tarver wins handily 116-112 on two cards and 117-111 on the other.

                      I personally will be waiting for the HBO replay next week. I think the undercard took a major hit when Briggs could not get contracted and I am afraid the headliner will not live up to the hype (many fights can't).

                      I will be watching fatass (Toney) in HD on showtime. I think Toney-Guinn and Byrd-Williamson will end up being a better card and $40 cheaper.
                      If the fight goes the distance Tarver will not win. He just does not have the stamina, simple as that.

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                      • thelwig14
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 3145

                        #26
                        Re: Jones Tarver 3

                        Originally posted by sirjam
                        If the fight goes the distance Tarver will not win. He just does not have the stamina, simple as that.

                        Simple as that??? He went the distance against Jones and Johnson twice (and those were just three recent fights). If he goes the distance and loses, I do not think stamina will make a difference. If he goes the distance, that probably means Roy had his A game tonight and won a fair fight.

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                        • akudiya
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 147

                          #27
                          Re: Jones Tarver 3

                          when is the main event starting? Forget it I found it.

                          15 more minutes.
                          Last edited by akudiya; 10-01-2005, 09:55 PM.

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                          • Pappy Knuckles
                            LORDTHUNDERBIRD
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 15966

                            #28
                            Re: Jones Tarver 3

                            i simply don't feel like spending the money to see the fight. i've been burned too many times as of late.

                            my prediction: roy jones in the 6th by KO.

                            he's due. if not he need to hang those boots up and stick to making horrible music.

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                            • koolbubbaice
                              MVP
                              • May 2004
                              • 2236

                              #29
                              Re: Jones Tarver 3

                              Originally posted by marq
                              I think Roy fought as many cupcakes as Hopkins has over his career (until the very end). He beat all who were in front of him with the exception of Glenn Johnson, and i believe a focused Roy would've beat him easy. Though the second fight was short, Roy appeared to be in control until that haymaker floored him. Tarver only landed 7 shots. Should be interesting, but I hope Roy finally silences all of his critics so that his great career could be recognized for the history that he made.
                              Hopkins was first crowned in 95 & fought the best at middleweight.. When I say best, I mean the number 1 fighters ranked by the different organizations.. It's not Hopkins fault that the talsnt in the middleweight division wasn't too hot in the mid to late 90's... & You do know that Hopkins destroyed Glenn Johnson in a 97 title defense..Stopping him in the 11th round of their fight..

                              Roy looked shot in the Johnson fight.. He looked slow & seemed like he wasn't able to get his punches off.. A sign of a fighter showing his age.. It had nothing to do with focus... Thats an excuse to protect your favorite fighter.. I guess my favorite fighter of all time, Tommy Hearns, wasn't focused when Iran Barkley KOed him in 3 rounds, inwhich Hearns was dominating him.. No.. Hearns got caught with a left hook. The difference is, Jones was losing every round & looked old.. If he beats Tarver convincingly I will reexamine my prior thoughts on this topic..
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                              • Pappy Knuckles
                                LORDTHUNDERBIRD
                                • Sep 2004
                                • 15966

                                #30
                                Re: Jones Tarver 3

                                hey bubba i'm gonna have to play you in 2k6. anytime you ever challenge me i'm in the middle of a series against someone lol.

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