Jones Tarver 3

[jwheels9876]

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Yup you are 200% correct. Point blank I think thier 2nd fight and this fight kinda proves that Tarver was robbed in that decision in the first fight. Tarver clearly won that 1st fight as well. It should be Tarver 3, Jones 0. Jones was a good boxer who fought 2nd rate and 3rd rate opponents..yes part of that is not his fault if his weight class has no real fighters for him to fight, but dont beat a bunch of 2nd rate boxers over a 13 year career and say you "da man". Dunking a basketball on a 7ft goal and telling everyone im the 2nd coming of MJ. The only two real people Jones ever fought beat him. Tarver beat him twice and to be honest I felt should have been 3 times, and Glen Johnson knocked his bitch azz out when they fought too. If Roy had fought real boxers over his career maybe he would have been able to handle Tarver and Johnson... but I dont feel sorry for Roy cuz went on and rode that ship people put him on as one of the greats when that was pure BS.. he knew it and thats why he didnt have much to say after the fight tonight. What Tarver and Johnson did is expose Roy for the not so great fighter that he's always been.

NOT for nothing but RJJ did fight a couple guys named Hopkins and Toney back in the day. And did you forget he is 36 years old and shot as a fighter? 10 years ago it's not even a fight. RJJ beats him by tko in about the 8th rnd wearing him down with shots before finally finishing him late.

[Nivek]

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Look, Roy Jones was matched up against one of the best fighters in the world tonight who's style poses a problem for RJ 10 years ago. He's been a cautious fighter ever since he saw a man die in the ring, and after getting knocked to near retirement two times over, he's even more gun shy. It's incredibly difficult to watch a guy with so much skill (still, even with the decline in speed) that could have won tonight...especially in the last 2 rounds when Tarver was spent. Am I pissed he didn't let it all hang out in the last 30 seconds...absolutely. Is he a b*tch because he faught a cautious fight hoping to get the decision on skill...absolutely NOT. It was the only strategy to employ.

In other words, I think you're wrong.

Get WHAT decision? Did you even watch the fight?

The bitch landed ONE...ONE...lemme repeat it again and put it in bold...ONE punch in the 7th round. Jones never lead in the scorecards throughout the entire fight. He didn't even put up a fight...it was terrible. I thought Roy was going to turn it on in the 10th, but instead he just did that gay *** chicken dance. Roy was fighting for a cheque, he doesn't care about what people say.

So in other words, I think you didn't see the fight.

[CWood2]

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Roy taunted Tarver most of the fight, and threw one punch at a time. Very few combinations. He didn't look bad, just unwilling to let his hands go. I swear, if he would've thrown more, he would've won. He's so afraid to hurt somebody. Roy showed no since of urgency when he was clearly losing in the later rounds. It's as if, he didn't want to win the fight. I saw no hunger from Roy. Tarver almost knocked him out in the 11th, but somehow Roy survived, and had an opportunity to knock Tarver out, because he basically punched himself out. But like I said, he didn't let his hands go. Tarver clearly won the fight.

I think Roy will fight again though.

I have to agree with you Flawless.

What I don't get is people bashing his career and trying to take away his legacy. I doubt very much these people watched Roy's olympic fights, never mind all his career victories and losses as I have. Roy Jones Jr. is a victim of his own athleticism, and because of that, he will never be appreciated by some. Instead of focusing on his matchless hand speed and how he inspired dozens of fighters (why do you think Tarver is so obsessed with the guy?), he's criticized for not being a risk taker and understanding (perhaps too much) how dangerous the sport can be.

Since he was ringside, I'll use the parallel. When Jordan made his last comeback with the Wizards, he wasn't the guy that carried the league and certainly didn't come back to win a championship. He came back because he could. Roy Jones Jr. came back to fight the best light heavyweight in the world knowing he probably wouldn't beat him because he could and because he deserved to go out on his terms. What's the worst that could have happened to MJ...a bad hammy, a lower scoring average and the expected "he's lost a step but he's still His Airness." Now put your self in Roy's shoes, or his Jordans to be exact, and think with your own brain.

[CWood2]

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Get WHAT decision? Did you even watch the fight?

The bitch landed ONE...ONE...lemme repeat it again and put it in bold...ONE punch in the 7th round. Jones never lead in the scorecards throughout the entire fight. He didn't even put up a fight...it was terrible. I thought Roy was going to turn it on in the 10th, but instead he just did that gay *** chicken dance. Roy was fighting for a cheque, he doesn't care about what people say.

So in other words, I think you didn't see the fight.

Nivek....You actually think Roy was fighting for the money???

Roy is a spotlight hoar, all he cares about is how people perceive his time in the ring. He faught again to go out on his feet, not in somebody's arms when Glenn Johnson almost killed him. Now if you want to make the point that he wasn't fighting to win, I can't defend that because of his punch count. But even at his age with the fear of knockouts fresh in his mind, he gave Tarver a pretty good fight just by being Roy. The point is that the Roy today doesn't have what it takes to attack and try and take out a guy like Tarver. Mentally, he's done. But again, DON'T call the man a b*tch.

EDIT: BTW, I was speaking of his stategy going into the fight - I didn't mean that he was scrapping for the decision last night because he obviously didn't. I think you're misunderstanding me, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since I'm a good guy.

[Nivek]

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Nivek....You actually think Roy was fighting for the money???

Roy is a spotlight hoar, all he cares about is how people perceive his time in the ring. He faught again to go out on his feet, not in somebody's arms when Glenn Johnson almost killed him. Now if you want to make the point that he wasn't fighting to win, I can't defend that because of his punch count. But even at his age with the fear of knockouts fresh in his mind, he gave Tarver a pretty good fight just by being Roy. The point is that the Roy today doesn't have what it takes to attack and try and take out a guy like Tarver. Mentally, he's done. But again, DON'T call the man a b*tch.

EDIT: BTW, I was speaking of his stategy going into the fight - I didn't mean that he was scrapping for the decision last night because he obviously didn't. I think you're misunderstanding me, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since I'm a good guy.

Okay, I won't call him a bitch...however, as a person who watched the fight, it was a ripoff. Roy belongs on broadway, Tarver knocks him in the head, Roy sticks his tongue out...wtf is that? That wasn't a fight last nite, and I really believe Roy was in it for the money. (He got about 5-6 million)

[Yosemite Dan]

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Nivek....You actually think Roy was fighting for the money???

Roy is a spotlight hoar, all he cares about is how people perceive his time in the ring. He faught again to go out on his feet, not in somebody's arms when Glenn Johnson almost killed him. Now if you want to make the point that he wasn't fighting to win, I can't defend that because of his punch count. But even at his age with the fear of knockouts fresh in his mind, he gave Tarver a pretty good fight just by being Roy. The point is that the Roy today doesn't have what it takes to attack and try and take out a guy like Tarver. Mentally, he's done. But again, DON'T call the man a b*tch.

EDIT: BTW, I was speaking of his stategy going into the fight - I didn't mean that he was fighting for the decision last night because he didn't show that. I think you're misunderstanding me, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since I'm a good guy.

Are you Jones' cousin or something because you really like to sugarcoat things. Jones is a bitch because he did no promotion for this fight nor did he bother to give an effort. When people are paying $50 on PPV you expect to have both boxers give it thier best. Jones throughout his career has always been afraid to get hit and when his speed was diminuished and when he got clocked he became an average fighter at best as he has glass jaw and is afraid to mix it up with anybody. The guy was afraid to mix it up with Glen Joihnson, GLEN FREAKIN JOHNSON.

Why do you think he picked Ruiz to fight as a HW? Ruiz is slow and plodding and Jones knew he could get little jabs in there and get out and backpeddle all fight because Ruiz couldn't catch him. Tarver is not a great fighter and Glen Johnson is a journeyman who beat both so that tells you that Jones' competition lately has not been steller. The reason he lost to both Tarver and Johnson because he didn't want to fight and if you don't want to fight DON'T GET IN THE RING. I guess that's the reason he didn't do any interviews pre fight because he knew he was gonna mail it in and felt guilty about it.

At least Tyson has the balls to say he was fighting fo the money. This fight did as much damage to his legacy as the knockouts did because everybody hates a quitter. Jones' will go down as a talented fighter with no heart which is something that is not to be proud of.

[CWood2]

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Okay, I won't call him a bitch...however, as a person who watched the fight, it was a ripoff. Roy belongs on broadway, Tarver knocks him in the head, Roy sticks his tongue out...wtf is that? That wasn't a fight last nite, and I really believe Roy was in it for the money. (He got about 5-6 million)

Personally, I think Roy was fighting primarily for pride and all those antics were just a bad cover up to make people think of him as the RJ of old. He's a very smart guy and he knows why people have cheered for him over the years. But no level of skill (or chicken games like you said) can make up for a mentally tired fighter.

Style-wise, it had all the makings of a Winky Wright/Felix Trinidad matchup, so that didn't help either. You see more and more of that these days, like how Morales lost his last fight. What sucks is that all the big fighters won't get in the ring against each other, so we have the likes of Floyd Mayweather, Zab Judah, and Ricky Hatton doing nothing. Thank God for the Corrales/Castillo rematch.

[CWood2]

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Are you Jones' cousin or something because you really like to sugarcoat things. Jones is a bitch because he did no promotion for this fight nor did he bother to give an effort. When people are paying $50 on PPV you expect to have both boxers give it thier best. Jones throughout his career has always been afraid to get hit and when his speed was diminuished and when he got clocked he became an average fighter at best as he has glass jaw and is afraid to mix it up with anybody. The guy was afraid to mix it up with Glen Joihnson, GLEN FREAKIN JOHNSON.

Why do you think he picked Ruiz to fight as a HW? Ruiz is slow and plodding and Jones knew he could get little jabs in there and get out and backpeddle all fight because Ruiz couldn't catch him. Tarver is not a great fighter and Glen Johnson is a journeyman who beat both so that tells you that Jones' competition lately has not been steller. The reason he lost to both Tarver and Johnson because he didn't want to fight and if you don't want to fight DON'T GET IN THE RING. I guess that's the reason he didn't do any interviews pre fight because he knew he was gonna mail it in and felt guilty about it.

At least Tyson has the balls to say he was fighting fo the money. This fight did as much damage to his legacy as the knockouts did because everybody hates a quitter. Jones' will go down as a talented fighter with no heart which is something that is not to be proud of.

Yes, I'm Roy's cousin from white suburbia...

I think you're right Yosemite Dan, especially with how he picked his fight with Ruiz. That's exactly what happened actually. The only thing I don't think is written in stone is how people view his legacy, because that's a subjective thing. If you listened to Max Kellerman after the fight (a MUCH bigger Roy boy than me!), he viewed it as a victory for Roy...which is kinda crazy. The point is that we don't have to pay for these fights and we can make our own conclusions on the guy...and concluding he's a b*tch is not really fair. He was never your normal fighter, and that's part of what made him so entertaining to many.

[CWood2]

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Sorry for the consecutive posts, but we missed a major point from last night.

Did anybody else think Andre Ward's opponent last night looked and faught like Glass Joe from Punch Out?? Me and my buddy were dying about this. Anway...:y4:

[fistofrage]

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What a waste of a Saturday evening. I'll leave it at that. RJJ is a clown. He should have called it quits years ago. I can't believe this guy has any fans left.

[SLAYER]

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From this thread and my buds' comments, I'm so glad I didn't bother going out of my way to see this fight--paid or not. I knew this fight wasn't going to be a war ("clash of the egos" fights rarely are nowadays), but I expected a lot more from Roy. Ah, well. I'll watch the HBO replay to form my own opinion, especially if it's tagged to a live card of something else.

[loccdogg26]

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even tho i didnt see the fight it was a good weekend to be here in tampa
oct 1 tarver vs jones #3
oct 2 lions vs bucs

too bad the lions lost tho.

[JohnJohnson]

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Could people please refrain from callings boxers bitches or soft. They risk their lives everytime they step into the ring. They're all warriors.

[mr_president]

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roy jones jr. has always been overrated, saturday night did not surprise me at all. i was hoping he would come to fight, but i knew he wouldn't....i think the next time we'll see roy it will be on that new show So You Think You Can Dance.

[ObiWanJenkins]

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Could people please refrain from callings boxers bitches or soft. They risk their lives everytime they step into the ring. They're all warriors.

To those that like to fling words like bitch and soft, step into the ring with a guy like Roy Jones Jr. Even a sparring ring. I'd pay to see a guy like nivek go toe to toe with Jones after publicly calling him a bitch.