Countdown To Calzage-Hopkins 20 days away.

[fistofrage]

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I hate boxers like B-Hop. Their whole strategy is to throw you off your rhythm by initiating clinches after literally every punch. B-Hop fought that fight like he was trying to just survive as opposed to winning. He was clearly tired an faking injury to rest so he could come out with a flurry and try to steal the rounds. I find it laughable that B-Hop and his fans think he should have won the fight when he was never the agreesor, threw less punches, landed less punches and had a lower connect % than JC. In fact, the knockdown while it was a knockdown was only that because JC went to clinch after the blow, was off-balanced and B-hop shoulder blocked him to get him to fall. B-Hops time has come and gone. The executioner? You can't execute anyone landing 10 punches a round.

[PSU_DW2]

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That fight was awful. Calzage punches like carlton banks and B hop put on acting that keanu reeves wish he had. they should of both had losses on there record.

Heh. Calzaghe throws powerful jabs and straight, but his wide and looping shots are merely slaps. Interestingly, his slaps are what probably won him the fight against Hopkins in those close rounds...

[PSU_DW2]

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And it is possible that B-Hop may have not been significantly hurt by Calzaghe's low blow. And it is true that Hopkins was pulling the back of Calzaghe's head down and had an effect on the trajectory of Calzaghe's body punch making it low. But it was a low blow. A light, not too dangerous low blow in a good area. But it was still a low blow ruled a low blow by the ref. That ruling is on the ref. B-Hop can take up to 5:00 if Cortez rules it a low blow. I always find it interesting that they have this 5:00 rule in place, yet the ref always seems to keep asking and rushing the fighter to start again. For once, I'd like to see the fighter take the entire 5:00. It is legal to do. I know fans get restless, but if you think about it, it is very important for a fighter to recover from any low blow. I don't think that B-Hop was hurt bad and he may have been faking some amount of the pain, but I don't think you can criticize him for taking that time. If I was ever in a big fight and a low blow was ruled low against it, I'll take exactly 4 minutes and 59 seconds to recover from it more often than not.

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I hate boxers like B-Hop. Their whole strategy is to throw you off your rhythm by initiating clinches after literally every punch. B-Hop fought that fight like he was trying to just survive as opposed to winning. He was clearly tired an faking injury to rest so he could come out with a flurry and try to steal the rounds. I find it laughable that B-Hop and his fans think he should have won the fight when he was never the agreesor, threw less punches, landed less punches and had a lower connect % than JC. In fact, the knockdown while it was a knockdown was only that because JC went to clinch after the blow, was off-balanced and B-hop shoulder blocked him to get him to fall. B-Hops time has come and gone. The executioner? You can't execute anyone landing 10 punches a round.

Joe admitted he got hurt by that KD. Lets not go there.

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Heh. Calzaghe throws powerful jabs and straight, but his wide and looping shots are merely slaps. Interestingly, his slaps are what probably won him the fight against Hopkins in those close rounds...

No Joe does not throw power jabs and straights. What fight has he done this? After about 100 flush shots he never put Lacy down. Lacy has no head movement, no defense. So why did the powerful Joe who landed consistenty could not KO Lacy?

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aside from hopkins well-timed knockdown, he has done nothing to impress me.

who is a better boxer, hopkins or calzaghe? it's obvious, bernard doesnt even actually 'box'. I saw joe hit hopkins pretty hard a good number of times. You sound like the critics of JC calling his punches 'slaps', I think he's proven over his career that his punches hurt, it's kind of petty to say that about him.

you obviously just prefer hopkins or are a fan etc...and that taylor comment came from way out in left field, there is no reason to assume taylor would ko calzaghe, i think kessler hits harder than him, so ??? in fact i think kessler could beat taylor too.

bernard's right punch and quickly grab tactics need to stop...you can't just clinch all the time like that (at least you shouldn't be allowed to as per the rules) it doesn't 'take two to tango' for a clinch either like someone mentioned...if bernard throws a right and hooks your arms down, that had nothing to do with you agreeing to the clinch or anything. all you have to do is look at each fighters past bouts to know that this clinching was all bernard.
I don't get how anyone respects such a dirty boxer who doesn't even 'box'.

I think calzaghe made this fight as exciting as possible under the circumstances (bhop) ...why would anyone want to see bernard fight again, especially since it's so deliberate on his part to make a mockery of the sport?

in the end calzaghe won (facts are facts man) and that's it.

about the punch stats, forget calzaghe's numbers,...look how pathetic bhops numbers are...a 12 round fight throwing 30 odd punches per round??? and landing 150 over a whole fight??? TERRIBLE

lets keep in mind Hopkins is a HOFer, thats established. You dont have a string of 20 defenses by holding and grabbing. Dude is 43, he is not going to outwork anyone at this point of his career.

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A Pavlik/Calzage fight would more than likely go at 168. but I don't see Joe taking that fight either. He'll take the easy money against Jones and maybe Tarver and then retire.

He wont fight Tarver. Tarver takes him in that fight. He will fight Jones and go for money and retire. He will avoild Pavlik, Miranda, Glenn Johnson, Chad Dawson like the plague. In Joe's long career he has one dominate win over a named opponent (Kessler) outside of that he has done little to impress the boxing world.

[JayBee74]

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Joe admitted he got hurt by that KD. Lets not go there.

He admitted that he didn't "slip"-he called it what it was, a flash knockdown. Calzage quote, "The knockdown in the first round was a flash. I wasn't hurt. I knew it would be ugly, but a win is a win. Maybe I'll fight Roy Jones Jr. next. I'll have to talk to my team and see what we plan to do,"

No Joe does not throw power jabs and straights. What fight has he done this? After about 100 flush shots he never put Lacy down. Lacy has no head movement, no defense. So why did the powerful Joe who landed consistenty could not KO Lacy?

He did knock down Lacy in that fight and rearranged his face throughout. Like I said before Hopkins awkward style makes anybody look bad.

He wont fight Tarver. Tarver takes him in that fight. He will fight Jones and go for money and retire. He will avoild Pavlik, Miranda, Glenn Johnson, Chad Dawson like the plague. In Joe's long career he has one dominate win over a named opponent (Kessler) outside of that he has done little to impress the boxing world.

Saying that JC couldn't beat Tarver is a pretty bold statement considering Hopkins handled Antonio easily. Don't forget Joe's iron jaw and toughness when making those statements. As far as dominate wins over a name opponent I guess Jeff Lacy doesn't count, huh?

[Whaaaazuuuuup]

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well, the best part of th night was when RayJ sang the national anthem. wow, I haven't laughed that hard in a loooong tme...

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He admitted that he didn't "slip"-he called it what it was, a flash knockdown. Calzage quote, "The knockdown in the first round was a flash. I wasn't hurt. I knew it would be ugly, but a win is a win. Maybe I'll fight Roy Jones Jr. next. I'll have to talk to my team and see what we plan to do,"

He did knock down Lacy in that fight and rearranged his face throughout. Like I said before Hopkins awkward style makes anybody look bad.

Saying that JC couldn't beat Tarver is a pretty bold statement considering Hopkins handled Antonio easily. Don't forget Joe's iron jaw and toughness when making those statements. As far as dominate wins over a name opponent I guess Jeff Lacy doesn't count, huh?

so after all the flush shots, joe has a UD over lacy. real powerful huh.

hopkins and tarver are both counter punchers, hopkins is just a better one. and joe doesnt have an iron jaw as evident by the KD by hopkins.

and to answer your last ques, lacy does not count. anybody who knows boxing knew he was over matched and inexperienced. name two of lacys opponents? lacy fought to a decision against the great peter manfredo from contender fame. so to answer your question NO lacy is not a top fighter.

[JayBee74]

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so after all the flush shots, joe has a UD over lacy. real powerful huh.

hopkins and tarver are both counter punchers, hopkins is just a better one. and joe doesnt have an iron jaw as evident by the KD by hopkins.

and to answer your last ques, lacy does not count. anybody who knows boxing knew he was over matched and inexperienced. name two of lacys opponents? lacy fought to a decision against the great peter manfredo from contender fame. so to answer your question NO lacy is not a top fighter.

Lacy was the IBF SuperMiddleweight champ before Joe dismantled him, so he was considered a top fighter, certainly a name fighter. Sure he was over matched, then why was he knocking everyone else out? Yeah the flash knockdown by Hopkins proves that Joe doesn't have an iron jaw-you got me there!!

[aholbert32]

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He admitted that he didn't "slip"-he called it what it was, a flash knockdown. Calzage quote, "The knockdown in the first round was a flash. I wasn't hurt. I knew it would be ugly, but a win is a win. Maybe I'll fight Roy Jones Jr. next. I'll have to talk to my team and see what we plan to do,"

He did knock down Lacy in that fight and rearranged his face throughout. Like I said before Hopkins awkward style makes anybody look bad.

Saying that JC couldn't beat Tarver is a pretty bold statement considering Hopkins handled Antonio easily. Don't forget Joe's iron jaw and toughness when making those statements. As far as dominate wins over a name opponent I guess Jeff Lacy doesn't count, huh?

Lacy doesnt count for me. Lacy was a big name but its not like he was dominant before he fought Calzaghe. The only reason people thought Lacy would beat Calzaghe was because Calzaghe hadnt appeared on TV in the states and Lacy had a few highlight real knockouts and Showtime's pr behind him.

[aholbert32]

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Lacy was the IBF SuperMiddleweight champ before Joe dismantled him, so he was considered a top fighter, certainly a name fighter. Sure he was over matched, then why was he knocking everyone else out? Yeah the flash knockdown by Hopkins proves that Joe doesn't have an iron jaw-you got me there!!

Jaybee,

You are better than that. Just because the guy has a belt doesnt mean he's a great or even good fighter. The only name fighter Lacy ever beat was Robin Reid who was past his prime when he fought Lacy.

[Complex]

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Lacy was the IBF SuperMiddleweight champ before Joe dismantled him, so he was considered a top fighter, certainly a name fighter. Sure he was over matched, then why was he knocking everyone else out? Yeah the flash knockdown by Hopkins proves that Joe doesn't have an iron jaw-you got me there!!

lol. so if you have a belt, you are a Top fighter? LOL. thats a good one. and when the other klitcho comes back he is automatically a the #1 contender. does that make him top int he division after several years out of the league? remember DLH got a title shot after a long layoff. getting a belt is easy in boxing. guys vacate, give up, are handed belts with ease.

name one fighter of note that Lacy KO'd? he only had 20 fights. stop it please

[Complex]

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Joe was not hurt?