Countdown To Calzage-Hopkins 20 days away.

[parker002]

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when a fighter like Joe who is known for charing in, throwing punches in buches and combos galore is left tentative and jumpy that means he got hit with some shots that hurt him. there is no other explanation.

There is most certainly another explanation:

Bernard Hopkins HELD the ENTIRE night.

One would have thought he was a professional wrestler. Not only does he act like an ***, tonight he fought like a washed-up has been, hanging of for dear life and faking a shot to the groin in order to keep from being totally outclassed.

[allBthere]

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700 punches is Fight Night numbers.

You would think that he killed the guy.

Get the guy off his feet. Stun him or something. I don't even remember seeing a decent jab.

B-Hop wasn't aggressive. But he rarely is.

I thought he fought a good, tactiful fight and his punches landed were just way more meaningful and effective.

Joe did a alot of slapping and flailing.

Unfortunately, a Calzaghe/RJJ fight might be similar but I expect RJJ to pick him apart and win by decision if they do fight.

are you kidding?
hopkins is no longer a boxer...he doesn't 'fight', i will not even watch him again. he's dirty and exploits the rules to turn what should be a fight into something discraceful.
The knockdown was also not one that had JC in danger of being ko'd, it was good timing while he was on his heels.

To me b-hop has to retire, he's twisting what the sport should be about, and that low blow (which was above the penis let alone the balls) was an indication of what a classless moron he is.

B-HOP lost...no question about it, but he no longer belongs in the ring since he no longer is actually willing to BOX.

what a dirty POS.

calzaghe also caught him with more 'good ones' through out the fight....this was very frustrating to watch, but i'm glad the better athlete won in the end. time for calzaghe/abraham, calzaghe/pavlik, cotto/mayweather, pavlik/abraham, etc... retire old racist POS you're done.

joe's slaps must hurt since he's got same ko numbers with less fights than bhop

[Brandon13]

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I wasn't the one taking the punch so I can't say for sure but I really doubt that Hopkins was hurt that badly by the low blow. I just don't think it was low enough. I might have given him the benefit of the doubt if he hadn't tried it again a round or two later.

[allBthere]

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listen to what is being said in this thread on what was on tv. you would think joe dominated from start to finish. yet we saw him go down, him stunned a couple of times. he landed nothing meaningful. i dont understand what he did to get the huge lead on one judges card. the draw doesnt bother me on one judges card so much and the other had it for hopkins which most people can justify with the the KD. do the math, even stewart who hates hopkins said hopkins won the first 4-5 rounds. with one by KD of a score of 10-8. so are we saying joe pitched a dominate shut out for the remainder of the fight?

hopkins lost, there is no question about it. It's also clear that he is unwilling to actually fight. time to find someone else to back

[NYG_Meth]

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This was an ugly fight. B-Hop was holding all night long, trying to throw Calzaghe off his game. While that solid right in the first round was big, I think Joe pretty much controlled the rest of the fight. I was getting ready to riot had the decision gone to B-Hop.

---Also, that low blow nonsense was just that... nonsense. Awful acting job. I think he was just trying to catch a breather and recompose himself.

[JayBee74]

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B-Hop's "destructive" right hands resulted in one flash knockdown and Calzage was pressing him the entire fight. Then he gets to recuperate by feigning a genital injury. Hopkins makes anyone look bad with his rough house counter punching tactics but he was beaten down the stretch by a more active fighter.

Unfortunately, a Calzaghe/RJJ fight might be similar but I expect RJJ to pick him apart and win by decision if they do fight.

LOL, you're giving a has been way too much credit. Roy doesn't have the heart to beat Calzage.

when a fighter like Joe who is known for charing in, throwing punches in buches and combos galore is left tentative and jumpy that means he got hit with some shots that hurt him. there is no other explanation.

Err......yes there is another explanation-sometimes when your in Rome you must do like the Romans. Bernard was wrestling much of the fight-for awhile I thought it was Hatton in there. Despite this Calzage landed more punches against Hopkins then anyone else. And what's with the "phantom hurt" deal. Did Calzage ever really look hurt even when he went down in the 1st?

[PhiPsi1]

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Looks like B-Hop won't be able to go back to his 'hood' anytime soon!

[JayBee74]

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Looks like B-Hop won't be able to go back to his 'hood' anytime soon!

He can if the fans reverse the decision.

[bigeastbumrush]

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From ESPN.com

Judge Ted Gimza scored it 115-112 for Calzaghe, and Chuck Giampa favored Calzaghe 116-111. Judge Adalaide Byrd gave it 114-113 to Hopkins, as did many reporters at ringside -- including The Associated Press, which also favored Hopkins 114-113 despite Calzaghe's dominance in the final five rounds.

Again, if we all watched the same fight, where was the sheer domination by Calzaghe? Even giving him 4 of the last 5 rounds, I didn't seeing him outpointing B-Hop especially after a 10-8 first round. Sorry.

are you kidding?
hopkins is no longer a boxer...he doesn't 'fight', i will not even watch him again. he's dirty and exploits the rules to turn what should be a fight into something discraceful.
The knockdown was also not one that had JC in danger of being ko'd, it was good timing while he was on his heels.

To me b-hop has to retire, he's twisting what the sport should be about, and that low blow (which was above the penis let alone the balls) was an indication of what a classless moron he is.

B-HOP lost...no question about it, but he no longer belongs in the ring since he no longer is actually willing to BOX.

what a dirty POS.

calzaghe also caught him with more 'good ones' through out the fight....this was very frustrating to watch, but i'm glad the better athlete won in the end. time for calzaghe/abraham, calzaghe/pavlik, cotto/mayweather, pavlik/abraham, etc... retire old racist POS you're done.

joe's slaps must hurt since he's got same ko numbers with less fights than bhop

Wow. That's sure an unbiased way to judge a fight.

I think B-Hop should retire but not because he can't fight but because it makes no sense for him to fight anymore. I could see if Calzaghe hurt or stunned him even once during the fight. But no one can admit that they saw that happen.

[JayBee74]

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JC still threw 800 punches (and landed 300 or so) against a fighter who did not want to engage in any action. I would say he wasn't really thrown off his gameplan, especially if you start from the 3rd round on.

And JC landed the most punches ever against Bernard.

Bernard didn't score enough. Period. End of story. That was not a hard fight to score.

You cannot win a fight by throwing in one punch spurts and clinching and running. He wasn't even counterpunching effectively because he was getting beaten to the punch.

That and the fact that he had to buy time because he was exhausted by Joe's relentless attack. He had the look of a loser.

[ZigZag]

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That fight was awful. Calzage punches like carlton banks and B hop put on acting that keanu reeves wish he had. they should of both had losses on there record.

[Complex]

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JC still threw 800 punches (and landed 300 or so) against a fighter who did not want to engage in any action. I would say he wasn't really thrown off his gameplan, especially if you start from the 3rd round on.

And JC landed the most punches ever against Bernard.

Bernard didn't score enough. Period. End of story. That was not a hard fight to score.

You cannot win a fight by throwing in one punch spurts and clinching and running. He wasn't even counterpunching effectively because he was getting beaten to the punch.

So are you saying a fighter wins by landing more regardless of the quality? If that is the case I can overturn tons of fights with that logic.

[Complex]

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I don't necessarily think Calzaghe won 116-111 but I don't think that's a horrible score either. I need to watch the fight again but 115-112 is probably what I would have had.

but listen to what I am saying. if the argument is joe won 7 rounds, i dont agree with that, but for arguments sake i will use it now. now one round bernard won by 2 pts. so technically he won 6 rounds. how do we get a 115 or 116 score for Joe?

[aholbert32]

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That and the fact that he had to buy time because he was exhausted by Joe's relentless attack. He had the look of a loser.

I'm sorry but how do you know that he faked being hurt by the low blow. I dont care if you get hit in the dick or the balls...getting hit by a world class fighter in that area is going to hurt.

[Complex]

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There is most certainly another explanation:

Bernard Hopkins HELD the ENTIRE night.

One would have thought he was a professional wrestler. Not only does he act like an ***, tonight he fought like a washed-up has been, hanging of for dear life and faking a shot to the groin in order to keep from being totally outclassed.

no joe and bernard held. now i expect it from hopkins, but not joe. i saw none of the things he is known for.