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  • acts238shaun
    MVP
    • Dec 2005
    • 2714

    #1321
    Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

    This is why I rented this game first. I'm 50/50 online to offline and between the sliders, servers and not no sliders for online gym...I may not get it.

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    • Phobia
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jan 2008
      • 11623

      #1322
      Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

      Just got Confirmation E-mail, they pulled online sliders couple weeks before release

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      • acts238shaun
        MVP
        • Dec 2005
        • 2714

        #1323
        Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

        Did they say why? Noy buying this now. Thanks Phobia for saving me 60 bucks. Online gym with sliders was the only chance I had for a sim experience vs. other people.

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        • Phobia
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jan 2008
          • 11623

          #1324
          Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by acts238shaun
          Did they say why? Noy buying this now. Thanks Phobia for saving me 60 bucks. Online gym with sliders was the only chance I had for a sim experience vs. other people.
          Just wanted to clarify some communication issues around Online Gym sliders. Users are able to change the following within their Online Gym:


          - Number of Rounds

          - Round Length

          - Saved by the Bell

          - Three knockdown rule



          However, game play sliders that we've recently stated are in the game are, in fact, not currently in game. This is due to a late change in the game to deal with an online connectivity issue weeks before Final. The team is currently investigating the possibility of adding it back in at a later date, though that has yet to be determined. We apologize for any mis-communication around this feature and will keep you informed as to any update that may be provided.



          Let me know if you have any questions and feel free to share with the community.



          Community Manager Alain Quinto

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          • SteelerSpartan
            MVP
            • Apr 2007
            • 2884

            #1325
            Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by Phobia
            Just got Confirmation E-mail, they pulled online sliders couple weeks before release



            They fffing tell us this now???....Ive tried to stay positive about this game and defend the devs since they went into hiding after the demo came out...but this is a major "stab you in the back" bi**h move on their part
            Here We Go Steelers!!! Here We Go!!!

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            Marshall..WVU-Go Herd/Eeers!!!


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            • Flightwhite24
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2005
              • 12094

              #1326
              Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by SteelerSpartan


              They fffing tell us this now???....Ive tried to stay positive about this game and defend the devs since they went into hiding after the demo came out...but this is a major "stab you in the back" bi**h move on their part
              Hilarious!!!! EA has taken Shaddyness to a new level. LOL!!!
              The poster formerly know as "FLIGHTWHITE"

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              • Gotmadskillzson
                Live your life
                • Apr 2008
                • 23428

                #1327
                Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                wow.........

                They pulled a rope-a-dope

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                • grunt
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 9527

                  #1328
                  Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Phobia
                  Just wanted to clarify some communication issues around Online Gym sliders. Users are able to change the following within their Online Gym:


                  - Number of Rounds

                  - Round Length

                  - Saved by the Bell

                  - Three knockdown rule



                  However, game play sliders that we've recently stated are in the game are, in fact, not currently in game. This is due to a late change in the game to deal with an online connectivity issue weeks before Final. The team is currently investigating the possibility of adding it back in at a later date, though that has yet to be determined. We apologize for any mis-communication around this feature and will keep you informed as to any update that may be provided.



                  Let me know if you have any questions and feel free to share with the community.



                  Community Manager Alain Quinto
                  This is getting worst by the day. I mean online sliders aren't new and to pull them without informing customers is sad.

                  Phobia, do you think you wasted your time with "community day"?

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                  • airboss75
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 7

                    #1329
                    Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                    People please. I think folks are going over the deep end with this really. The game most definitely isn't half bad at all. Come on now. I consider my self a sim type of gamer also, and if I'm enjoying it I just cant see where all the slander is coming from. Phobia, I read your video review and I'm not seeing how you're just making a complete 180. Its the same exact game that you already gave a what was it 7....8 or something?
                    Last edited by airboss75; 03-04-2011, 09:57 AM.

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                    • cjallure24
                      Hail To The Redskins!
                      • May 2007
                      • 2319

                      #1330
                      Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                      I was looking forward to today so much, to finally get the game in my hands. After reading these reviews, I'm a little scared now...lol. I don't play online so I could care less about that. But man, I'm still going to get the game and see for myself how it is.

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                      • Phobia
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 11623

                        #1331
                        Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by grunt
                        This is getting worst by the day. I mean online sliders aren't new and to pull them without informing customers is sad.

                        Phobia, do you think you wasted your time with "community day"?
                        Not wasted at all, just unhappy with features being pulled

                        Originally posted by airboss75
                        People please. I think folks are going over the deep end with this really. The game most definitely isn't half bad at all. Come on now. I consider my self a sim type of gamer also, and if I'm enjoying it I just cant see where all the slander is coming from. Phobia, I read your video review and I'm not seeing how you're just making a complete 180. Its the same exact game that you already gave a what was it 7....8 or something?
                        I am not making a complete 180, more like a 90

                        Reason being

                        1) When I reviewed title, the game was yet to be released. So the online modes worked the way it was supposed to. We also did not know of the XP pack debacle that was fixing to erupt and the level of impact it would have on the online portion of the game. It hurt a important mode in OWC.

                        I have covered many of the sever balance issues they created, which I won't cover here.

                        2) Finding out the sliders did not work correctly came after the review and we did not get confirmation from EA till after also. So believing the game was tweakable to our liking on top of the excellent looking gameplay made for a very exciting time which was quickly crushed when we find out they don't work and are not going to fix the issue.

                        3) Then just as of yesterday we get confirmation that Online sliders were pulled only couple weeks before launch. So this ruined what many of us thought was going to be a very fun league game and being able to take advantage of the online gyms to the max with a realistic boxing league. Now this is not possible.

                        4) So this removes many of the key features for someone like myself who is a online player. Do I still stand by my 7.4 "Great" score??? YES I DO....here is why. The game is great, has plenty of modes to fill everyone needs. All portions of the review cover the key main areas.

                        What the review does not cover well is how sim heads who like online play will be sold short and be forced to deal with these issues.

                        Lastly, I have every right to be upset as a consumer. It is like going in and buying your first car which has satellite radio, which the car dealer told you it had. Then you get home with the car and start messing with it looking for your satellite radio and realize it is not there. Then you call the car dealer and they tell you "Yea we had to pull it last week because of some issues"............."BUT I PAID FOR THIS RADIO".

                        Same thing here, we all paid for working sliders, online sliders which we were told were in, and paid for many modes (Champion, Online ranked, Gyms, OWC, Legacy). But if you want to compete in OWC aka The Money Maker well you need to put some MORE money up so you can buy some FAKE ratings.

                        This is uncalled for from the #1 Sports Developer in THE WORLD! You get paid the big money, get the big license deals such as ESPN, etc because you will deliver like a superstar. Yet when that superstar makes rookie mistakes (Broken Sliders, Missing features promised, etc) they should expect to get called out for it.

                        No differently than when the Raiders spend Millions and Millions on JaMarcus Russell only to cut him down the road for lack of producing. EA the company, not the fight night team. But the company themselves are the big dogs and you have to be able to deliver as the leader you are. If you don't...........well.............expect people to lose faith and look else where for a savior .
                        Last edited by Phobia; 03-04-2011, 03:10 PM.

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                        • fistofrage
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 13682

                          #1332
                          Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by Phobia
                          Not wasted at all, just unhappy with features being pulled


                          I am not making a complete 180, more like a 90

                          Reason being

                          1) When I reviewed title, the game was yet to be released. So the online modes worked the way it was supposed to. We also did not know of the XP pack debacle that was fixing to erupt and the level of impact it would have on the online portion of the game. It hurt a important mode in OWC.

                          I have covered many of the sever balance issues they created, which I won't cover here.

                          2) Finding out the sliders did not work correctly came after the review and we did not get confirmation from EA till after also. So believing the game was tweakable to our liking on top of the excellent looking gameplay made for a very exciting time which was quickly crushed when we find out they don't work and are not going to fix the issue.

                          3) Then just as of yesterday we get confirmation that Online sliders were pulled only couple weeks before launch. So this ruined what many of us thought was going to be a very fun league game and being able to take advantage of the online gyms to the max with a realistic boxing league. Now this is not possible.

                          4) So this removes many of the key features for someone like myself who is a online player. Do I still stand by my 7.4 "Great" score??? YES I DO....here is why. The game is great, has plenty of modes to fill everyone needs. All portions of the review cover the key main areas.

                          What the review does not cover well is how sim heads who like online play will be sold short and be forced to deal with these issues.

                          Lastly, I have every right to be upset as a consumer. It is like going in and buying your first car which has satellite radio, which the car dealer told you it had. Then you get home with the car and start messing with it looking for your satellite radio and realize it is not there. Then you call the car dealer and they tell you "Yea we had to pull it last week because of some issues"............."BUT I PAID FOR THIS RADIO".

                          Same thing here, we all paid for working sliders, online sliders which we were told were in, and paid for many modes (Champion, Online ranked, Gyms, OWC, Legacy). But if you want to compete in OWC aka The Money Maker well you need to put some MORE money up so you can buy some FAKE ratings.

                          This is uncalled for from the #1 Sports Developer in THE WORLD! You get paid the big money, get the big license deals such as ESPN, etc because you will deliver like a superstar. Yet when that superstar makes rookie mistakes (Broken Sliders, Missing features promised, etc) they should expect to get called out for it.

                          No differently than when the Raiders spend Millions and Millions on JaMarcus Russell only to cut him down the road for lack of producing. EA the company, not the fight night team. But the company themselves are the big dogs and you have to be able to deliver as the leader you are. If you don't...........well.............expect people to lose faith and look else where for a savior .
                          I think the development team has to take the heat for broken sliders. The powers that be would have certainly dictated the way the game was going to go as in pay no heed to Legacy Mode, concentrate on the Prizefighter II mode. But no way would they tell them to break stuff. They had 2 years to work on this game, nothing should have been broken on release day.
                          Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                          • Phobia
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 11623

                            #1333
                            Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by fistofrage
                            I think the development team has to take the heat for broken sliders. The powers that be would have certainly dictated the way the game was going to go as in pay no heed to Legacy Mode, concentrate on the Prizefighter II mode. But no way would they tell them to break stuff. They had 2 years to work on this game, nothing should have been broken on release day.
                            Which I agree with, all games have issues. These range from bugs to exploits. But when you have FEATURES that you state on your marketing routine.....well........they better work.

                            I could let go of a fighter being unbalanced or something like that. But HOW does a game go through 2 years of development and ALL these professional game developers and testers don't catch this??? This is a honest question, HOW does that happen??? Wouldn't you think they would test their game?

                            Like I have stated before, it comes off very much like a "Prospect" mistake.

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                            • fistofrage
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 13682

                              #1334
                              Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Phobia
                              Which I agree with, all games have issues. These range from bugs to exploits. But when you have FEATURES that you state on your marketing routine.....well........they better work.

                              I could let go of a fighter being unbalanced or something like that. But HOW does a game go through 2 years of development and ALL these professional game developers and testers don't catch this??? This is a honest question, HOW does that happen??? Wouldn't you think they would test their game?

                              Like I have stated before, it comes off very much like a "Prospect" mistake.
                              Well this is why people are serious when they say EA breaks things on purpose only to re-introduce it as a feature in a future version.

                              I'm downright bent right now. I wanted to go to the store and hand EA my $60. Heck, they could have charged me $100 if they had a robust legacy mode, but no.

                              Now I have to wait 2 more years to see what shenanigans they pull instead of delivering the boxing game we all want.
                              Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                              • Stormyhog
                                All Star
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 5304

                                #1335
                                Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                                Phobia what is EA's reasoning for not fixing the sliders? I thought their would be tuner updates like the NCAA and NHL games have. I still enjoy the game but it looks like EA's support will be lacking which is not acceptable.
                                "If you don't have anything good to say, say it often"- Ed the sock

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