Official Slider Discussion Thread

[LingeringRegime]

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Ank and Ben great work on the latest sliders. I think I have found my balance in this game with these. They force you to box, and it seems very balanced. Power guys are not superhuman, but they will still punish you if you are not smart.

[acts238shaun]

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I can't get over the insane amount of counters from terrible/slower fighters on champion. That's why I lowered the speed like I did, because the slow guys were to fast in comparison to the elite guys. Think Butterbean vs. Ali, but Butterbean was almost as fast. That's what it feels like right now for me.

I will give the sliders up front some testing and see how they work for me.

[SteelerSpartan]

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Im hesitant to put the speed slider below 5..because I don't want to deaden my reflexes for when I eventually get into Online in earnest

[Jukeman]

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I the I just balance my sliders out.....Speed lowered the the hit % also, I can dodge the cpu much better and they can dodge me...I cant land a jab no more lol....

Someone test them for me, they are updated on the front page..

[Benicio10]

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Ank and Ben great work on the latest sliders. I think I have found my balance in this game with these. They force you to box, and it seems very balanced. Power guys are not superhuman, but they will still punish you if you are not smart.

everything's still a work in progress, still working on learning the game and what the sliders do exactly.

Jukeman, i'll test with lowered speed.

[edaddy]

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So what we COULD say is that PRO would be the "even" playing level then?

I find pro to be the most realistic level..The one thing that stands out to me in pro is that the cpu isn't in attack mode every minute like on Champion and Goat..I played on championship level for a while but it wasn't realistic...I had Gatti just as fast as Sweat Pea and Mosley with ridiculous defense...I upped the Cpu's defense awarenes, offense awareness, and toughness to get some good realistic fights on pro...

[parker002]

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Im hesitant to put the speed slider below 5..because I don't want to deaden my reflexes for when I eventually get into Online in earnest

It won't.

Having speed low works GREAT.

[dorismary]

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I find pro to be the most realistic level..The one thing that stands out to me in pro is that the cpu isn't in attack mode every minute like on Champion and Goat..I played on championship level for a while but it wasn't realistic...I had Gatti just as fast as Sweat Pea and Mosley with ridiculous defense...I upped the Cpu's defense awarenes, offense awareness, and toughness to get some good realistic fights on pro...

Yep Im back to pro again for the same exact reasons you list at least on fight now mode .
On champion IMO theres just no option to lessen cpu uber attack Man the Heavyweights kill me on that level
On pro I have both me and the cpu connecting on 50 % punches.
So far I had the ref call a fight in the 9th , I replayed matches and won one and then lost the other do to my sloppyness which I like .
I havent seen many earlier KOs for me but Im gonna test with Tyson and pick my punches carefully for max power.

It won't.

Having speed low works GREAT.

Yeah I have mine at 5 now on pro but depending on level and sliders I can go higher also .
The lower the speed I believe the user has a better reaction time for counters , blocking and dodging ect .

[CBMerling]

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Yep Im back to pro again for the same exact reasons you list at least on fight now mode .
On champion IMO theres just no option to lessen cpu uber attack Man the Heavyweights kill me on that level
On pro I have both me and the cpu connecting on 50 % punches.
So far I had the ref call a fight in the 9th , I replayed matches and won one and then lost the other do to my sloppyness which I like .
I havent seen many earlier KOs for me but Im gonna test with Tyson and pick my punches carefully for max power.

I've found lowering toughness, stuns them longer and makes them easier to knockdown.

[Jukeman]

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Im loving my updated set now, you really can see the diff in ratings now....

I just uploaded a vid with my CAB from legacy mode facing each other(im controlling one) and it was a short fight like any other fight thats have prospect/scrubs in them....Compared to the Gatti/Chico fight I had, it was a worlds difference....


check out the cross for a flash KD...

http://beta.easports.com/media/play/video/6763403

[cjallure24]

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I'm playing on Champion in my heavyweight Legacy with Juk34mans first set of sliders, I just lowerd the power and speed slider to (8) and I'm having some great results. I thought the same thing at first,that the CPU threw too many punches, but what I came to realize was I wasn't moving that often. His sliders have made me a better player. I also see various results, the CPU counters but not to often cause I'm selective with my punches.

Though I don't play online I do play my friends face to face, so I'm going to have to eventually play with the speed at (5).....

This game is so addictive and its a blast.

[Vince]

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Juke your set is exactly the one i've been using on GOAT except i have damage at 7...

I find it plays really well. Counters are manageable and CPU punch outputs are good.

BTW, what does the Offensive Awareness slider do?

[SteelerSpartan]

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Im loving my updated set now, you really can see the diff in ratings now....

I just uploaded a vid with my CAB from legacy mode facing each other(im controlling one) and it was a short fight like any other fight thats have prospect/scrubs in them....Compared to the Gatti/Chico fight I had, it was a worlds difference....check out the cross for a flash KD...

just had a good one with my CAB of Myself vs Cotto( Yours Updated/Champion)

He dropped me early but I picked myself up and dropped him twice in the Championship rounds to cap off a nice comeback

Heres the end, it was Lollapalooza(Rockin My Sendo gear too)..I won't embed it though, to keep from clustering the thread

http://beta.easports.com/media/play/video/6764269

[dorismary]

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I've found lowering toughness, stuns them longer and makes them easier to knockdown.

Thanks CB ,
But at this point Im trying find a blend thats perfect for all weights .
Thats how i got messed up on Champion .
On my Tyson test I fought Chambers agressively but not crazy and I stunned him in the 4th but got to agressive trying to finish him and he stung me lol .
So in the 5th I let me attack a bit then Iron mike went wild and KO early WoW .
It felt so realistic and satisfying and a lesser fighter wouldnt had even lasted 5 rounds so Im happy with how this is playing out .
I also tested Leonard and Hearns with excellent results as there equal fighters.

Now when I fought Duran hearns I just couldnt compete different weight class I lost all 3 fights as duran, 2 the distance not very close and he Ko me the 3rd so the balance is finally there weight class wise , Punch total and % connected around 50-60 if Im sloppy Ex:tyson 62%.

Recap:
So I tried playing as lesser boxers miss match and I couldnt win but oppourtunity was there .
I played as a Greater Boxer and I dominated but still was knocked down and punch total were realistic.
As equal Boxers most matches went the distance or me and the cpu won in the last round by KO.
I even had the Ref stop a match in the 9th so cool Marvs eye was shut.
Hearns and sugar ray brought me back in time but I still have to check up on durans style as I suc at no mas .
Tested all weight classes with my settings and had realistic results on all .
So dont make the same mistake I did test settings on all weight classes , with equal and unequal Boxers to find your skill level and then adjust as you get better.
Gonna try Paz now but my only gripe is i wish they had more guys who really fought each other in real life as Im not a big fan of CAB do to no real names and limted hair choices , cant make a decent boom boom or Norton .

[Ankido]

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Remember, at any given moment you can be knocked out seconds into the fight if you don't defend yourself. I've always said this about sliders; you need to adjust to cater your playing style. I have speed set to 4 for more realistic punch stats. Some people may find that slow while others still think it's too fast.

Should you use one set of sliders? NO. Always keep a few slider sets for Human vs CPU, Human vs Human (online or offline) and Legacy Mode. I found that my sliders work great for legacy mode and there's no need to adjust them. Human vs Human, you might want to tweak out a few sliders here and there for fun value.

Ben is busy this week; I'm sure we can come up with a set of pro sliders. I still think Pro is the best way to go but the game feels a bit too easy. Champion does give you a challenge if your careful with counters.

Juke, I'm going to test out your sliders and give you the final results later today. Thanks everyone for sticking together and making this game work out. I almost lost hope for FNR4.