Official Slider Discussion Thread

[parker002]

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finally learning, and less whining... bout time. (no pun intended)

Whining? Hardly.

It's the product of hours and hours of tweaking sliders. I'm not playing any differently than I have before, I haven't "learned" anything recently other than different combinations of sliders can be tweaked to compensate for the fact that there are glaring flaws in the game.

[jb12780]

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Whining? Hardly.

It's the product of hours and hours of tweaking sliders. I'm not playing any differently than I have before, I haven't "learned" anything recently other than different combinations of sliders can be tweaked to compensate for the fact that there are glaring flaws in the game.

Parker im lovin the new pro sliders. Good work.

[Tycobbler]

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Whining? Hardly.

It's the product of hours and hours of tweaking sliders. I'm not playing any differently than I have before, I haven't "learned" anything recently other than different combinations of sliders can be tweaked to compensate for the fact that there are glaring flaws in the game.

I like what you've done with your finding, however wouldn't you agree Physical Damage at 10 is a bit high pal?

[slayter]

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I like what you've done with your finding, however wouldn't you agree Physical Damage at 10 is a bit high pal?

I've been playing with damage at 10 and have yet to get a fight stopped. Especially with Parker's sliders.

There's been times where either the CPU or myself would have to spend points on damage instead of stamina and health in order to keep it from getting too high.

So, with the power and toughness sliders I would have to say, no, 10 is not too high for damage.

[parker002]

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I like what you've done with your finding, however wouldn't you agree Physical Damage at 10 is a bit high pal?

Are you just trying to be funny? I guess I don't understand the condescending tone.

At any rate, no, I don't find it to be too high. I have yet to see a fight stopped due to cuts/swelling, but it definitely influences the fights since points that could otherwise be spent on health or stamina have to go to healing cuts...

[ragnarok1978]

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At any rate, no, I don't find it to be too high. I have yet to see a fight stopped due to cuts/swelling, but it definitely influences the fights since points that could otherwise be spent on health or stamina have to go to healing cuts...

I've been giving your latest sliders a try in my legacy. And want to leave some feedback, especially regarding the power/damage ratio.

I stopped Joe Fraizier in 4 rounds due to cuts. After the first round his "DAMAGE" text in the bar was filled red. He was ranked 3rd. I then took on Simon Kelly, also filling his damage to around 20% after the first round, tho the fight did last till the 7th round when I knocked him out.

I am not sure if the power & damage vary from weight class to weight class tho? What weight class do you play in primarily? Because in the heavyweight division the 6 power and 10 damage combined seems to result in alot of cuts & blood once you hit the top 10.

Personally I am speculating in wether the different weight divisions require different sliders, but I'm gonna try blazing up a career in a lighter division to test the sliders across divisions.

[parker002]

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I've been giving your latest sliders a try in my legacy. And want to leave some feedback, especially regarding the power/damage ratio.

I stopped Joe Fraizier in 4 rounds due to cuts. After the first round his "DAMAGE" text in the bar was filled red. He was ranked 3rd. I then took on Simon Kelly, also filling his damage to around 20% after the first round, tho the fight did last till the 7th round when I knocked him out.

I am not sure if the power & damage vary from weight class to weight class tho? What weight class do you play in primarily? Because in the heavyweight division the 6 power and 10 damage combined seems to result in alot of cuts & blood once you hit the top 10.

Personally I am speculating in wether the different weight divisions require different sliders, but I'm gonna try blazing up a career in a lighter division to test the sliders across divisions.

I don't play much with Heavyweights - only the occasional Fight Now match - and I haven't seen this. We concluded a long time ago that finding a set of sliders that would work across all weight classes might not be possible, so keep that in mind.

I do see alot of cuts/swelling, but again haven't seen a fight stopped because of it.

[parker002]

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So I was able to reproduce my Calzaghe vs. Jones results (somewhat) using nearly the exact same sliders but with the difficulty bumped to Champion. Jones' connect percentage went up to 57% but I didn't really get dominated to the body like usual, I just gave up head shots a bit more. I landed 371/649 and he landed 291/503. The fight ended with me knocking him out in the 9th after just wearing him down. I knocked him down in the 4th, 6th, and 8th, in addition to the 9th round KO.

Unfortunately, there's just no way to counter the almight counter, pardon the pun. I landed 35 of 40 counters and that was really the difference in the fight.

[parker002]

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Time to test with other boxers, but these absolutely work in Champion as well as they work in Pro, at least using Calzaghe against Roy Jones.

In the rematch, I knocked him out in the 7th. He knocked me down in the 5th, but I knocked him down twice to get back the 10-8 round. He won a couple of rounds against me, but again I just overwhelmed him and wore him down.

Once again I landed 57% of my punches (330/575). His connect percentage went up to 59%, which is still substantially better than what I was seeing before. I honestly think the awareness sliders make all the difference.

Difficulty - Champion
RFA - 10
RDA - 10
PWR - 6
SPD - 3
DAM - 10
TGH - 5
COA - 10
CDA - 10
OUT - 2

[DiceMan]

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I honestly think the awareness sliders make all the difference.

How so parker?

[cjallure24]

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How so parker?

In my observation I notice that when the CPU Defense Awareness is up the A.I. blocks way more punches, and counter a lot more. As for the CPU Offensive Awareness when that is up, the A.I. throws more combos and are very percise with there punches(learned that by fighting SRL on GOAT with the CPU Off. Awareness up on 5).

[parker002]

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In my observation I notice that when the CPU Defense Awareness is up the A.I. blocks way more punches, and counter a lot more. As for the CPU Offensive Awareness when that is up, the A.I. throws more combos and are very percise with there punches(learned that by fighting SRL on GOAT with the CPU Off. Awareness up on 5).

More importantly, I think having them unbalanced, like Off AWR at 0 and Def AWR at 10 produces some very odd results, particularly when it comes to the counter window.

I'm actually getting better results by far with both of them MAXED, even on Champion.

[SteelerSpartan]

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Been using Parkers Champion sliders from a few pages back(49) with my own tweaks

Difficulty - Champion

Ref Foul AWR - 10
Ref DAM AWR - 10
PWR - 7
SPD - 3>>>>>>>>>>>5
DAM - 10>>>>>>>>>>4
TGH - 5>>>>>>>>>>>2
CPU Off AWR - 3
CPU Def AWR - 7>>>>10
Output - 1

I wasn't liking the damage level either...I want some more fights where the guys eyes start to swell shut before cuts even come into the picture if at all...so thats what Im working on right now

Maybe its just my style though causing so many cuts...I'll usually rope a dope and wait for clean effective counters with the bob
and weave. Hard to get in there and mix it up with the cpu on Champion/GOAT because of their magnetic hands...........well I can and win but it would be a taxing fight and make your Legacy fighters career real short

Heres a vid a of me as Jones

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[parker002]

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With the damage that low, do you ever see a fight even come close to getting stopped?

Also, good point about long-term effects of cuts on a legacy. I wonder if we should think about lowering the slider a bit just for that. I mean, if maxing it out isn't producing many stoppages, there's no use in raising it if it's going to have long-term negative side effects.

[SteelerSpartan]

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With the damage that low, do you ever see a fight even come close to getting stopped?

Yeah Ive had a few stopped because of cuts....15-20% of my fights Id say.

Really working the cuts is how I stay in the fight on Champion/GOAT. I can get their damage bar 3/4 full almost every time.

Ive had very few fights where I just beat the the other guy down with body blows. The CPU is almost always in my neighborhood in terms of stamina toward the end of a fight, and if I don't make em use points on the cuts they'd probably methodically beat me down 50-60% of the time.

I think the cpu gets stat boosts for Champion/GOAT. I think their body punches do more damage and they lose less stamina when I make them miss compared to my own missed punches.

I haven't put enough hours to truly see if I can make Pro work...but I get em out of there pretty fast on the few occasions of tried pro sets.I'll probably stick with Champion for a while longer before going down again