Official Slider Discussion Thread

[parker002]

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Yeah Ive had a few stopped because of cuts....15-20% of my fights Id say.

Really working the cuts is how I stay in the fight on Champion/GOAT. I can get their damage bar 3/4 full almost every time.

Ive had very few fights where I just beat the the other guy down with body blows. The CPU is almost always in my neighborhood in terms of stamina toward the end of a fight, and if I don't make em use points on the cuts they'd probably methodically beat me down 50-60% of the time.

I think the cpu gets stat boosts for Champion/GOAT. I think their body punches do more damage and they lose less stamina when I make them miss compared to my own missed punches.

I haven't put enough hours to truly see if I can make Pro work...but I get em out of there pretty fast on the few occasions of tried pro sets.I'll probably stick with Champion for a while longer before going down again

They absolutely do get boosts on higher difficulties. I've tested counter punching thoroughly now, and CPU counters on Champion and GOAT do more damage than on Pro. On Pro, the player's counters do more damage.

Pro is just way too easy.

I'm gonna have to lower damage and see what happens.

[SteelerSpartan]

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Heres a pic of Margaritos face in the 12th where I would later knock him out




Was a good fight, I had slight cut on my left cheek that was never really a threat to me.

Think I was using

4 power
1 Damage
0 Toughness

Anyways will tweak with that stuff some more later in the week but Im off to relax and watch

Play it To the Bone

[parker002]

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First test with damage at 4, me as Mike Tyson vs. Tommy Morrison.

I saw quite a bit of damage, probably not enough, but still quite a bit.

And fighting with Tyson is completely different than my previous fights. I landed several big shots but just couldn't stun him. I knocked me down in the 5th and again in the 8th. I couldn't get up the 2nd time. I was really low on stamina and health by then and just couldn't do anything.

[parker002]

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F*** me.

I went back to Calzaghe vs. Jones and got knocked the f*** out. He landed 61% of his punches, including 21 of 31 counters. I had him stunned a couple of times but couldn't finish. About the only good thing that came out of it is that I got up twice instead of only being able to get up once.

[parker002]

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Well, two losses in a row had me thinking I just wasn't good enough again. So I picked up the Calzaghe/Jones rematch and scored a 10th round knockout. He landed 56% with me landing 52%. I knocked him down 3 times to him knocking me down none.

Probably should have planned on a back and forth battle since they're both 90 OVR - he should beat me once in a while.

So now back to Tyson to see if he's got his knockout power.

[parker002]

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And the answer is no.

Lost a lopsided decision to Eddie Chambers in which neither fighter was knocked down.

It's interesting that I can knock out RJJ with Joe Calzaghe, but can't knock anybody out with Mike Tyson. Seems opposite of what it should be.

[parker002]

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Total bummer.

Went to bed last night thinking I might have it.

Just got KO'd as Corrales by Gatti in the 4th round.

[parker002]

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I guess I'll just have to play with Calzaghe and nobody else.

Just for kicks, I fought RJJ on GOAT.

And beat him.

[parker002]

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OK, my final post on sliders. I'm not gonna let EA do to me with this game what they did with NCAA. These are the sliders I will be using from here on out. No more tweaking.

Difficulty - Champion

RFA 10
RDA 10
PWR 6
SPD 3
DAM 5
TGH 5
COA 5
CDA 5
OUT 2

[Tycobbler]

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OK, my final post on sliders. I'm not gonna let EA do to me with this game what they did with NCAA. These are the sliders I will be using from here on out. No more tweaking.

Difficulty - Champion

RFA 10
RDA 10
PWR 6
SPD 3
DAM 5
TGH 5
COA 5
CDA 5
OUT 2

I know i don't contribute much, if at all since my focus mainly is OOTP baseball, but i did pick up FN4 to master it like yourself. Didn't mean any harm with the Damage inquiry just thought you might get better results. Glad to see you did through your testing.
Those #'s you have just so happen to mirror mine Now go kick some a$$

[parker002]

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I know i don't contribute much, if at all since my focus mainly is OOTP baseball, but i did pick up FN4 to master it like yourself. Didn't mean any harm with the Damage inquiry just thought you might get better results. Glad to see you did through your testing.
Those #'s you have just so happen to mirror mine Now go kick some a$$

No harm done. It wasn't the damage inquiry anyway, it was the "pal" at the end. No worries.

As for why I lowered damage, I honestly don't see much of a difference during my fights when it comes to the damage meter itself. It seems to be going up at the same rate and by the 10th round of most fights, both me and my opponent have some serious swelling depending on points usage between rounds.

However, it does seem to be swelling moreso than cuts, and I'm also concerned about the long term effects on Legacy play, so I went ahead and lowered it. We'll see how it works over the long haul.

[SteelerSpartan]

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OK, my final post on sliders. I'm not gonna let EA do to me with this game what they did with NCAA. These are the sliders I will be using from here on out. No more tweaking.

Difficulty - Champion

RFA 10
RDA 10
PWR 6
SPD 3
DAM 5
TGH 5
COA 5
CDA 5
OUT 2

Can't blame ya...I fooled around with that crap well into Feb...before I finally said this game(09) was just too broken to get it to an appropriate level of sim

Im passing on NCAA this year, mainly because I got FN4 to keep me busy till Madden...which should be a good game of ball this year barring any Broken Stuff

[acts238shaun]

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Same here, but I finally found a good set for all classes, at least for me.

Has anyone tried them? I would like to see how they work for everyone else. I use them in fight now and in legacy. They are on the first page if anyone's interested in testing them.

[slayter]

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Same here, but I finally found a good set for all classes, at least for me.

Has anyone tried them? I would like to see how they work for everyone else. I use them in fight now and in legacy. They are on the first page if anyone's interested in testing them.

I played a few matches last night and really enjoyed this set of sliders. They're great if you are looking for a challenge. Not so great if you are looking for an ego boost. :wink:

Only change I made was dropping the Power from 8 down to 7. With the heavyweights it seemed like every 3rd hit was a stun and the lightweights had multiple stuns in each round as well. (Although it was nice to keep T. Morrison in a constant state of confusion)

Power at 7 seemed to balance it perfectly between the two weight divisions.

Punch out put was around 49 for heavyweights and I believe somewhere around 68 for the lightweights.

I didn't think I would last on GOAT (and I never did past the 8th round in any fight), but the score cards reflected fights that could have gone in either direction if I fought smarter and didn't get KO'd.

So, awesome job on tweaking this set! I'm looking forward to playing many more in Fight Now with these. (I've yet to test Legacy with them)

[acts238shaun]

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I played a few matches last night and really enjoyed this set of sliders. They're great if you are looking for a challenge. Not so great if you are looking for an ego boost. :wink:

I hear you. I am a very defensive fighter most of the time. I just got tired of knocking guys down five times to get a KO on 7 power and five toughness and when I moved it to 8 power it was usually two, maybe three depending on the other fighter. Thanks for the feedback!