Official Slider Discussion Thread

[fistofrage]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Here is what I have been using. Xbox 360.

Pro - 2 mins
Ref Sliders - 10
Power - 5
Speed - 5
Damage - 9(hopefully see some stoppages)
Toughness - 5
Stamina - 0
Accuracy - 0
Cntr Window - 6
CPU OAI - 5
CPU DAI - 8
Punch Output - 0

[ChaseB]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Here is what I have been using. Xbox 360.

Pro - 2 mins
Ref Sliders - 10
Power - 5
Speed - 5
Damage - 9(hopefully see some stoppages)
Toughness - 5
Stamina - 0
Accuracy - 0
Cntr Window - 6
CPU OAI - 5
CPU DAI - 8
Punch Output - 0

So wait do 360 sliders work? I thought only PS3 sliders worked.

[Po Pimp]

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Are all these slider sets for FNC or is this the same thread from FN4? Why wasn't a new thread made?

[dhrupick]

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Just jumping in here. Is there a reason why you guys use "pro" as the setting? Just checking if it makes a diffrence in getting realistic stats. So far the outcomes have been slightly more realistic as far as punch numbers go, but I'm still getting well average.

[fistofrage]

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So wait do 360 sliders work? I thought only PS3 sliders worked.

I know for sure that the accuracy and punch output have no effect that I can see. The stamina has very little effect but I can't say the slider doesn't work, because I cranked it all the way up and nobody tired. When I moved it to 0, I saw marginal losses. The stamina in the game is broken mainly for the human. I can throw 70+ punches per round with a HW and still be above 80% stamina for the fight.

The damage slider works to some degree, but its only really cosmetic as I have never seen a stoppage, so I am no sure if the ref awareness slider works.

The AI offense and defense sliders may or may not work, I really don't see much difference in connect rates or KO's when I move them.

I think the power slider works as I had it higher before but I was seeing more KO's, but my sample size was only about 10 fights. I moved it back to default.

So to answer your question. Some definitely DO NOT work while others may work marginally from what I can tell.

[karlos]

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Update - Adjusted a couple of things. Let me know what you think. Been testing in Fight now vs. CABs so these will be ratings based.

Pro - 2 mins
Ref Sliders - 10
Power - 5
Speed - 3
Damage - 7
Toughness - 3
Stamina - 0
Accuracy - 0
Cntr Window - 0
CPU OAI - 5
CPU DAI - 3 (Too many PB Counters)
Punch Output - 1

I tried these but had too many flash Ko's. I used Manny v Cotto and knocked out Cotto by a 1 punch flash KO on two occasions in the 1st round - a third time at the beginning of the 2nd round.

I then tried Cotto and I knocked out Manny in the first by a flash KO but before that he KO'd me after a few knockdowns in the 4th.

I'm not that good at FNC - I do use some power punches when a counter or a clean shot opens up but not that many - 10/70 per round maybe.

Maybe the toughness and / or power needs to be tweaked.

This was in Fight Now - need to try it with other boxers including Heavyweights but whilst I love to see a Flash KO it should be reserved for a rare event on a very clean shot. We had the sliders nicely tweaked in FNR4 for that eventually.

I'll also give your sliders a try too Fist.

Is Pro level tough enough chaps ? I'm not that good but didn't have a problem beating Cotto with Manny (as I shouln't I suppose) to be fair it was 1-1 when I was Cotto.

I tested in Fight Now or Are they intended for Legacy ?

Let's keep at it because a well tuned set of sliders made all the difference in FNR4.

Cheers

[fistofrage]

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I'll also give your sliders a try too Fist.

Is Pro level tough enough chaps ? I'm not that good but didn't have a problem beating Cotto with Manny (as I shouln't I suppose) to be fair it was 1-1 when I was Cotto.

I tested in Fight Now or Are they intended for Legacy ?

Let's keep at it because a well tuned set of sliders made all the difference in FNR4.

Cheers

I found that the end results I am getting are pretty decent. You just have to not look at punch totals or connect %.

For example, I fought 5 fights Wlad Klitschko against Tyson with me as Wlad. I was KO'd 4 times and won a 12 round decision. I fought as Tyson and KO'd him in the 7th in the only fight I tried as Tyson, but if I hadn't got him in the 7th, I think I would have run out of steam and lost.

Taylor vs. Mora. I was Taylor, if I didn't knock him down, I would lose a decision because Mora was busier, but he was also pretty easy to take out.

Ali v Frasier. Ali won 3 out of 4. Taking 2 decisions and getting a KO. Frasier took me out in 6 once.

In Legacy, My Wlad is 19-9-1 with 8 KO's. Its really hard to KO guys in those 6 rounders. I moved up too quick and paid the price.

So to answer the question, the game can be challenging on pro.

I am going to try upping the power and toughness and see if I can get any more damage and a stoppage. I haven't seen a single stoppage yet.

[SteelerSpartan]

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Edit: Update 3/14/11

Well I think Im done tweaking for a while...probably until good tuner/patch comes out....Like FistofRage suggested, we're just going to have to try and ignore connect% and punch totals....Anways these provide a good challenge and surprisingly the perfect blocking isn't annoying me to no end...and if Im careful I can control a fight with the jab

I also think raising the speed to 8 makes the controls more responsive...maybe its just Ive gotten better at the game...but I can get in and out much better now

And with some ratings/tendency rerates....the styles are really coming out
Go Here: http://fightnightcabs.proboards.com/...ead=409&page=1

and use this guys ratings/tendencies....there were very few I disagreed with.......Had a fight the other night with Shane Mosley(Me) vs Winky Wright....and I was out boxed thoroughly.....Only won 3 rounds on two of the scoredcards

Frustrated me all fight long, just like how I was when I watched it in real life(SSM Fan)......


Presentation-Sim
Difficulty - GOAT
12 Rounds
Round Length: 2 min
off
No


RFA - 10
RDA - 10
PWR - 6
SPD - 8
DAM - 0
TGH - 9
ACC - 0
STA - 0
CPW - 0
COA - 0
CDA - 10
OUT - 0

You got to be really careful with the speed and power jacked up....And I still see good swelling and cuts with damage at 0 because of that high power

[C_Bailey24]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Edit: Update 3/14/11

Well I think Im done tweaking for a while...probably until good tuner/patch comes out....Like FistofRage suggested, where just going try and ignore connect% and punch totals....Anways these provide a good challenge and surprisingly the perfect blocking isn't annoying me to no end...and if Im careful I can control a fight with the jab

I also think raising the speed to 8 makes the controls more responsive...maybe its just Ive gotten better at the game...but I can get in out much better now

And with some ratings/tendency rerates....the styles are really coming out
Go Here: http://fightnightcabs.proboards.com/...ead=409&page=1

and use this guys ratings/tendencies....there were very few I disagreed with.......Had a fight the other night with Shane Mosley(Me) vs Winky Wright....and I was out boxed thoroughly.....Only won 3 rounds on two of the scoredcards

Frustrated me all fight long, just like how I was when I watched it in real life(SSM Fan)......


Presentation-Sim
Difficulty - GOAT
12 Rounds
Round Length: 2 min
off
No


RFA - 10
RDA - 10
PWR - 6
SPD - 8
DAM - 0
TGH - 9
ACC - 0
STA - 0
CPW - 0
COA - 0
CDA - 10
OUT - 0

You got to be really careful with the speed and power jacked up....And I still see good swelling and cuts with damage at 0 because of that high power

Yea i went to that board and used some of his edits and with them the fights are pretty good. I fought Moseley(me) vs DeLaHoya(cpu) literally 10 times the other night and lost every one of them by decision and i play with similar sliders to yours but on Champion. I then fought as Sweet Pea vs Oscar (still to this day think Pea won the fight ) and started out winning the fight but then judges gave Oscar the remaining 6 rounds to win the decision. So now it has become like a little obsession with to beat this frickin' guy lol

[karlos]

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I found that the end results I am getting are pretty decent. You just have to not look at punch totals or connect %.

For example, I fought 5 fights Wlad Klitschko against Tyson with me as Wlad. I was KO'd 4 times and won a 12 round decision. I fought as Tyson and KO'd him in the 7th in the only fight I tried as Tyson, but if I hadn't got him in the 7th, I think I would have run out of steam and lost.

Taylor vs. Mora. I was Taylor, if I didn't knock him down, I would lose a decision because Mora was busier, but he was also pretty easy to take out.

Ali v Frasier. Ali won 3 out of 4. Taking 2 decisions and getting a KO. Frasier took me out in 6 once.

In Legacy, My Wlad is 19-9-1 with 8 KO's. Its really hard to KO guys in those 6 rounders. I moved up too quick and paid the price.

So to answer the question, the game can be challenging on pro.

I am going to try upping the power and toughness and see if I can get any more damage and a stoppage. I haven't seen a single stoppage yet.

Gave your settings a try Fist - definately tougher - maybe the higher AI defensive rating does it ?

I was using Manny v Cotto and had lost all but 1 round but had caused some damage to Cotto's left eye with Manny's right hook - kept working the swelling and got a 6th round stoppage for a TKO.

I was then down 3 rounds to 1 when I flash KO'd Cotto with a great straight left as he came in causing him to go down backwards and sideways spinning him around as he hit the canvas face down and didn't move !

So a nice combination of stoppage through damage and a flash KO - I was getting concerned because it didn't look like they had the power to stop it with a KO - particularly a Flash KO and then Blam.

I`ll definately give these a run for a while.I feel that these are tougher than ActShaun's slders even though they are still based on Pro level. They seem tough enough for me to be a challenge so may translate well to Legacy mode.

Cheers.

[Hova57]

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completely confused now so we went from saying no sliders for either system works to now saying ps3 works, but its limited. am I correct in this. the ones that doesn't work right is cpu output, accuracy and stamina correct all other work?

[fistofrage]

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Champion - 2 mins
Ref Sliders - 10
Power - 5
Speed - 5
Damage - 10
Toughness - 3
Stamina - 3
Accuracy - 0
Cntr Window - 0
CPU OAI - 3
CPU DAI - 5
Punch Output - 5

Moved up to Champion and been getting some great fights. Had a 10 round decision as Tyson vs. Holyfield. I knocked him down once. The ref almost stopped me on a cut, it was close Fight was dead even going into the 9th. Great Fight.

I KO'd Mosely with Cotto at the end of the 4th. Here's the thing though, it was the 1st knockdown and he didn't get back up, didn't even get to his feet and fall back down, he rolled over once and was counted out. I never saw that before, it was awesome.

Mosely TKO'd me in the 8th of the rematch. I was way behind on the cards though.

The damage slider definitely works and I think the AI awareness slider works too. I may be getting too much damage now, but I like it, you have to protect yourself down the stretch.

Still too easy for me to get up after multiple knockdowns, I would like to have to struggle on the 1st or 2nd KD.

[longranger]

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Wondering what to do. I am not very good, but decent! I cannot win a fight. I've tried the dodging and counters, notta. I've tried the mike tyson approach and notta.
I'm playing on pro and suggestions? Please Help!!!!









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[fistofrage]

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Wondering what to do. I am not very good, but decent! I cannot win a fight. I've tried the dodging and counters, notta. I've tried the mike tyson approach and notta.
I'm playing on pro and suggestions? Please Help!!!!

Take Ali and stay on the outside and pepper the jab. You'll make the opponent seem silly. But it will help you get your stick skills down. Then once you have won a couple with Ali, then try Klitschko. Start with outside fighters first and gradually work your way to the inside fighters. Its much harder to win with an inside fighter for me.

[DurtySoufReppin]

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Hey guys I have a quesion

Does Sliders affect the Legacy Mode?