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[pk500]

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Conor is going to be flailing and missing until he gets nailed with a few counterpunches and realizes the constant sting of a world class boxer's 10 ounce gloves ain't worth it. He'll start backing off and taunting Floyd to come in and at that point it will boil down to how superior Floyd is. I think there will be a stoppage.

The only question about Floyd's chin is that few can hit him with their Sunday punch.

Exactly. Getting hit with a 4-ounce glove hurts your face more than your brain. Getting hit with a 10-ounce glove hurts your brain more than your face.

Try it the next time you're in a sporting goods store. Take a boxing glove and hit yourself in the face. Do the same, with the same force, with an MMA glove. You'll know what I'm talking about.

I hit myself 25 straight times on each side of my head and face while practicing inside fighting during solo boxing training. My face and head don't hurt, but trust me, at age 52 I'm backing away from that bag dizzy when done with each side and returning to combination punching.

This whole idea that MMA gloves are more concussive than boxing gloves is fallacy. MMA gloves lead to more blood and cuts, but boxing gloves lead to more mashed brain-atos.

[pk500]

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I'm not saying he has **** for Floyd. I'm just saying a lot of the boxing only folks completely misunderstand his skills.

Fair enough. I've seen him fight, but I haven't studied him anywhere near as much as boxers. But from what I have seen, his punching technique isn't much higher than that of a low-level pro boxer.

Still, I don't deny the dude's power. He is a dynamo for a small man, far stronger and more powerful than Mayweather.

[Yaari]

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/mayweather-conor-mcgregor-london-plane-10798215

All this work for doing this tour, making us believe theres some legit beef, and then they save a few dollars by taking the same private jet together. Lol.

[JayBee74]

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Exactly. Getting hit with a 4-ounce glove hurts your face more than your brain. Getting hit with a 10-ounce glove hurts your brain more than your face.

Try it the next time you're in a sporting goods store. Take a boxing glove and hit yourself in the face. Do the same, with the same force, with an MMA glove. You'll know what I'm talking about.

I hit myself 25 straight times on each side of my head and face while practicing inside fighting during solo boxing training. My face and head don't hurt, but trust me, at age 52 I'm backing away from that bag dizzy when done with each side and returning to combination punching.

This whole idea that MMA gloves are more concussive than boxing gloves is fallacy. MMA gloves lead to more blood and cuts, but boxing gloves lead to more mashed brain-atos.

Good comments, but wouldn't the statement I highlighted in blue give evidence that Conor could very well be KOed, even considering Floyd's punching power?

[N51_rob]

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Good comments, but wouldn't the statement I highlighted in blue give evidence that Conor could very well be KOed, even considering Floyd's punching power?

It would be a Hatton KO, accumulation of punches not a single punch itself would do the damage.

[pk500]

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Good comments, but wouldn't the statement I highlighted in blue give evidence that Conor could very well be KOed, even considering Floyd's punching power?

Doubt it.

Floyd has no power. His hands are fragile pillows. That's why he wears Grant gloves, which are the most protective mitts among the major glove brands.

Anybody who wears Cleto Reyes gloves is a hard puncher with no hand issues. The weight in Cletos is shifted away from the knuckles compared to Grants, which have more padding around the knuckles. Getting hit with a Cleto hurts more than with a Grant, but anyone wearing Cletos better have strong hands and not land too many shots on a guy's hip.

Everlast and Rival are more neutral, balanced gloves. Fighting Sports are more like Cletos, but from Indonesia instead of Mexico. You see a lot of Asian fighters wearing Fighting Sports. Pacquiao did earlier in his career.

[N51_rob]

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Doubt it.

Floyd has no power. His hands are fragile pillows. That's why he wears Grant gloves, which are the most protective mitts among the major glove brands.

Anybody who wears Cleto Reyes gloves is a hard puncher with no hand issues. The weight in Cletos is shifted away from the knuckles compared to Grants, which have more padding around the knuckles. Getting hit with a Cleto hurts more than with a Grant, but anyone wearing Cletos better have strong hands and not land too many shots on a guy's hip.

Everlast and Rival are more neutral, balanced gloves. Fighting Sports are more like Cletos, but from Indonesia instead of Mexico. You see a lot of Asian fighters wearing Fighting Sports. Pacquiao did earlier in his career.

You are speaking in generalities, but many of the top fighters who get custom gloves also have custom padding options as well. Not to mention sponsorship dollars paid to boxers for wearing gloves with viable logos.

[aholbert32]

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Exactly. Getting hit with a 4-ounce glove hurts your face more than your brain. Getting hit with a 10-ounce glove hurts your brain more than your face.

Try it the next time you're in a sporting goods store. Take a boxing glove and hit yourself in the face. Do the same, with the same force, with an MMA glove. You'll know what I'm talking about.

I hit myself 25 straight times on each side of my head and face while practicing inside fighting during solo boxing training. My face and head don't hurt, but trust me, at age 52 I'm backing away from that bag dizzy when done with each side and returning to combination punching.

This whole idea that MMA gloves are more concussive than boxing gloves is fallacy. MMA gloves lead to more blood and cuts, but boxing gloves lead to more mashed brain-atos.

One counter: Boxing gloves block alot more than MMA gloves. Its alot easier to land in clean in MMA than it is in boxing.

[dubcity]

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This is amazing stuff. Sports entertainment at its best lol. Both these guys having the time of their lives with this.

[dubcity]

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Thank you, FS2, for not bleeping any of this lol.

[GreenLightning]

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I know this is all for show and it is funny as hell but what is the point of Mayweather subjecting his daughter to this?

[bigeastbumrush]

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing...plane-10798215

All this work for doing this tour, making us believe theres some legit beef, and then they save a few dollars by taking the same private jet together. Lol.

The article says that they were not on the same plane as first reported. They flew in identical private jets.

[dubcity]

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I know this is all for show and it is funny as hell but what is the point of Mayweather subjecting his daughter to this?

I was wondering who that was. Thought maybe it was his wife. It's all showbiz like you said, but I doubt anyone will be rushing to defend Mayweather's character or judgement on anything any time soon, regardless.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Most of my friends are boxing and not MMA fans and Conor is one of the few guys that I force my friends to watch in MMA. With the exception of the Holloway fight (where he tore his ACL and still won the fight), Conor hasnt had a single boring UFC fight. He's accurate as hell and he doesnt like going to the ground. Thats part of the reason why fans love him.

With 90% of MMA fighters, PK's "wild and roundhouse" take would be right but not with Conor.

Last night I watched McGregor vs. Diaz 1 & 2.

I'd say his 2 biggest fights, no? The Aldo fight doesn't count to me..lol.

McGregor is basically a 1-2 puncher. Accurate with the left, yes. Powerful, yes. Not a wild swinger.

His win over Diaz was predicated on kicks. He kicked the hell out of Diaz' front leg which opened Diaz up for punches.

His loss to Diaz was basically not being able to take a punch and then getting snuffed out on the ground.

I also watched Mayweather vs. Berto. A boring as hell fight but I wanted to see Floyd at his oldest. This was the worst I've seen him. He was not accurate at all with his lead right. His counters missed. And Berto outworked him.

This is my problem with Conor and why this fight is the biggest farce ever to hit boxing.

This isn't a legendary fight (outside of it being billed as the best fighters in both sports). This is a glorified sparring session for Floyd. It's like an old-timer's game in baseball because Conor is simply not a boxer. He doesn't put punches together. He doesn't defend.

Correct me if I'm wrong but most MMA fighters never have their hands up in defense. Their hands are pretty much dropped or lagging around their chest/waist area to parry kicks and avoid takedowns.

Conor wasn't really trying to dodge punches. He wasn't even really trying to block punches.

I get that this is entertainment but unless Conor swings wildly, he doesn't have a chance. He's not going to have a high punch output because that's not really what he's about. So he's basically a walking punching bag.

Floyd has lost a lot of his accuracy if the Berto fight was any indication.

But in a boxing match, this will be worse than the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight because Conor really isn't suited for this. I was deceiving myself believing so because of all the hype.

This is the equivalent of Sugar Ray Leonard fighting Stone Cold Steve Austin with boxing-only rules.

The more that I think about it, this is reminiscent of Rocky 3 with Rocky fighting Hulk Hogan in an exhibition match. It's eerily similar.

[aholbert32]

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Last night I watched McGregor vs. Diaz 1 & 2.

I'd say his 2 biggest fights, no? The Aldo fight doesn't count to me..lol.

McGregor is basically a 1-2 puncher. Accurate with the left, yes. Powerful, yes. Not a wild swinger.

His win over Diaz was predicated on kicks. He kicked the hell out of Diaz' front leg which opened Diaz up for punches.

His loss to Diaz was basically not being able to take a punch and then getting snuffed out on the ground.

I also watched Mayweather vs. Berto. A boring as hell fight but I wanted to see Floyd at his oldest. This was the worst I've seen him. He was not accurate at all with his lead right. His counters missed. And Berto outworked him.

This is my problem with Conor and why this fight is the biggest farce ever to hit boxing.

This isn't a legendary fight (outside of it being billed as the best fighters in both sports). This is a glorified sparring session for Floyd. It's like an old-timer's game in baseball because Conor is simply not a boxer. He doesn't put punches together. He doesn't defend.

Correct me if I'm wrong but most MMA fighters never have their hands up in defense. Their hands are pretty much dropped or lagging around their chest/waist area to parry kicks and avoid takedowns.

Conor wasn't really trying to dodge punches. He wasn't even really trying to block punches.

I get that this is entertainment but unless Conor swings wildly, he doesn't have a chance. He's not going to have a high punch output because that's not really what he's about. So he's basically a walking punching bag.

Floyd has lost a lot of his accuracy if the Berto fight was any indication.

But in a boxing match, this will be worse than the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight because Conor really isn't suited for this. I was deceiving myself believing so because of all the hype.

This is the equivalent of Sugar Ray Leonard fighting Stone Cold Steve Austin with boxing-only rules.

The more that I think about it, this is reminiscent of Rocky 3 with Rocky fighting Hulk Hogan in an exhibition match. It's eerily similar.

- Diaz 2 isnt the best fights to showcase Conor's punching skill or power. He changed his gameplan and focused on leg kicks. The best fights to showcase his striking skill are the Alverez, Siver and maybe Mendes fights

- The Diaz loss wasnt because he cant take a punch. He gassed out. That happens when you are in a sport that requires more cardio. Also Conor's gas tank isnt elite.

- You are wrong about fighters never having their hands up. I'm been watching an insane amount of UFC fights this week. I'm specifically watching striking and many MMA fighters have their hands chin high. Some dont because they prefer that style or are looking to defend the takedown but many do.

- Just because someone doesnt use combos doesnt mean they cant. Most MMA fighters dont rely on big combos because that means you have to commit to a 3 or 4th strike and that can lead to you getting taken down or clinched.

I dont think Conor has a shot but to compare him to Hulk Hogan is laughable. LOL. Absolutely ridiculous. Basing that off of watching 2 fights isnt even close to the complete picture.