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  • Jukeman
    Showtime
    • Aug 2005
    • 10955

    #3661
    Re: Boxing Off-Topic

    Originally posted by ggsimmonds
    He landed more punches than Manny did against Floyd for crying out loud.

    Yeah, part of that has to do with the style Floyd was fighting, but I'll be honest and admit I never expected him to land over one hundred. And he landed some clean counter punches of his own.

    I guess it wasn't impressive if you hold him to the standard of career championship boxer, but Conor is not a career championship boxer is he?
    So the agreement going into the fight from the inter webs was that Conor is a competent boxer, he fought like a competent boxer so now thats not expected but impressive?

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    • ggsimmonds
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jan 2009
      • 11235

      #3662
      Re: Boxing Off-Topic

      Originally posted by Jukeman
      So the agreement going into the fight from the inter webs was that Conor is a competent boxer, he fought like a competent boxer so now thats not expected but impressive?
      Cute word games, but there is a huge gap between "competent boxer" and boxing against the greatest of this generation.

      Conor did not look much worse than many of Floyd's previous opponents did. A lot of people expected a one sided joke of a fight. This fight was no more a joke than Floyd's previous 5 or so fights.

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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33106

        #3663
        Re: Boxing Off-Topic

        Originally posted by Jukeman
        So the agreement going into the fight from the inter webs was that Conor is a competent boxer, he fought like a competent boxer so now thats not expected but impressive?


        That wasn't the agreement. Most here said he wasn't a competent boxer.


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        • l3ulvl
          Hall Of Fame
          • Dec 2009
          • 17227

          #3664
          Re: Boxing Off-Topic

          i just wanna see how many times aholbert can remind everyone it was against one of the greatest fighters of his generation in his pro debut lol
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          • Vni
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2011
            • 14832

            #3665
            Re: Boxing Off-Topic

            Better fight than I expected.

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            • JayBee74
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2002
              • 22989

              #3666
              Re: Boxing Off-Topic

              Just saw the fight on YouTube. Farwood had the fight 86-85 Mayweather after nine rounds. That wasn't too far off.

              I think Floyd was playing around a little bit, almost in anticipation of Conor running out of gas. He ran into trouble but did anyone actually see Floyd troubled?

              Conor has a nice, strong, stiff accurate jab, and acquited himself well in this fight.

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              • N51_rob
                Faceuary!
                • Jul 2003
                • 14805

                #3667
                Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                No Floyd was never in danger. Connor did about all he could in that fight. He pressed some action early on, he kept his jab out and used his reach advantage early to keep Floyd at a distance. Very few of his punches had real snap on them. I actually wonder if the 8oz gloves cost him the early stoppage. Maybe Bird lets him finish the round on his feet with 10oz gloves...
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                • Money99
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 12694

                  #3668
                  Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                  Connor looked a lot better than I gave him credit for.
                  Sure, Mayweather was never in danger and Connor didn't show any power at all.
                  But his jab did a really good job keeping Mayweather at bay early on.
                  His awkward approach and odd slapping combinations also kept Mayweather from doing much in the first 3 rounds.

                  However, Mayweather's strategy did the job. He let McGregor effectively punch himself out and then he methodically chopped him down.

                  I don't believe Mayweather hurt him. His being stopped had a lot more to do with him being completely out of gas. He was getting hit with shots he couldn't avoid by then.
                  The ref did the right thing by stepping in. It prevented the fans from seeing a true stoppage, but Connor was basically defenseless by that time.

                  But all in all, I was impressed with what McGregor showed in the early rounds.

                  Originally posted by JayBee74
                  Just saw the fight on YouTube. Farwood had the fight 86-85 Mayweather after nine rounds. That wasn't too far off.

                  I think Floyd was playing around a little bit, almost in anticipation of Conor running out of gas. He ran into trouble but did anyone actually see Floyd troubled?

                  Conor has a nice, strong, stiff accurate jab, and acquited himself well in this fight.

                  Should have just liked your post instead of writing my own.
                  Exactly how I felt.

                  I think the 86-85 score was a lot more accurate than what the judges had.
                  I do believe Floyd gave rounds away in order to figure Connor out, and to sap him of energy.
                  I never felt Mayweather was in danger. But Connor deserves his due. He did MUCH better than what I thought he would.

                  P.S. I live on one of the oldest and quitest roads in my tiny Canadian town.
                  But last night, I heard fight parties all over the neighborhood. I've never seen or heard that in the 16 years I've lived here.
                  That in itself tells you how popular the UFC and McGregor are.
                  It only makes me sad that organized boxing can't get its act together. If it was managed like the UFC, it would and should be so much more popular.
                  Last edited by Money99; 08-27-2017, 07:35 AM.

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                  • gmac0322
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1650

                    #3669
                    Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                    In my opinion. The fight went the way mayweather wanted it to go. Floyd let Connor survive early because he was letting him gas his self out. Connors punches were soft pitty pat punches. He threw a lot early and it really didn't matter. I think he did have a decent job but it looked like was letting him look ok. I think one reason why Floyd fought the way he did by coming forward is because he had no fear of connor's power. I don't think Connor was hurt but he definitely was not going to survive. He could barely lift his arms after the 9th round. Paulie was right that the ref is going to stop the fight if you don't throw a punch for about a minute. He took like 10 straight shots to the head. Connor definitely showed a good jab but he only did whatever Floyd let him do. I mean didn't throw a punch for three rounds. Props for Connor getting in the ring but in my opinion it was still an exhibition. Mayweather really looked like he sparring with a kid in there.

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                    Last edited by gmac0322; 08-27-2017, 09:13 AM.

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                    • cjonesfan921
                      UGH, next year
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 20081

                      #3670
                      Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                      Yeah, maybe I'm too biased towards Mayweather but I feel like Mayweather did exactly what he wanted. The first few rounds he barely threw anything, he kind of said let me read this guy.

                      The Conor uppercut was nice, though.

                      I think it's nice to say Conor won so many rounds or landed so many punches, but that doesn't matter to much when Mayweather almost let it happen.


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                      • gmac0322
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 1650

                        #3671
                        Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                        Originally posted by cjonesfan921
                        Yeah, maybe I'm too biased towards Mayweather but I feel like Mayweather did exactly what he wanted. The first few rounds he barely threw anything, he kind of said let me read this guy.

                        The Conor uppercut was nice, though.

                        I think it's nice to say Conor won so many rounds or landed so many punches, but that doesn't matter to much when Mayweather almost let it happen.


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                        Exactly what I was saying

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                        • Cavsfan4life
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1039

                          #3672
                          Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                          Like others have said, didn't think Floyd was in danger early on, even in some of his past fights he usually takes some rounds to feel out his opponent. It was a great performance for him all things considered.

                          Props to McGregor for taking a chance on himself, but his fans/ufc fans need to relax on how he looked early on, because in the end he lost.

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                          • GreenLightning
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 270

                            #3673
                            Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by aholbert32
                            The guy who couldnt beat a Golden Gloves champion just made it 10 rounds with one of the best fighters of all time.
                            Yep an over the hill hadn't fought in 2 year version just out for his last pay day. Kudos to Conor for hanging with the legend.

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                            • sheredia
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 2350

                              #3674
                              Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by GreenLightning
                              Yep an over the hill hadn't fought in 2 year version just out for his last pay day. Kudos to Conor for hanging with the legend.
                              in hindsight, i think dana and conor made a critical error in the fight rules. they gave in to floyd on the boxing part, which is a given. but they should have used UFC rules of 3 (or 5) rounds (each 5 minutes) with 1 minute rest in between rounds. this would have given conor a much better chance with the fight duration and stamina part. also, making floyd adapt to something in favor of conor. i mean, a pro debut for a typical boxer is ONLY 4 ROUNDS, for pete's sake!!! to ask the guy to go 12 championship rounds in a pro debut is absolutely not fair. to be honest, paulie probably could have knocked out conor (if paulie was in fighting shape) if the fight was scheduled for 12. i think he even mentioned conor getting gassed after the 5th or 6th round. to have this fight count on floyd's record makes no sense at all. this fight under UFC round rules would have been an exhibition (which it should have been all along) and not counted against floyd's record.

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                              • sheredia
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 2350

                                #3675
                                Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by JayBee74
                                Just saw the fight on YouTube. Farwood had the fight 86-85 Mayweather after nine rounds. That wasn't too far off.

                                I think Floyd was playing around a little bit, almost in anticipation of Conor running out of gas. He ran into trouble but did anyone actually see Floyd troubled?

                                Conor has a nice, strong, stiff accurate jab, and acquited himself well in this fight.
                                if conor had a few fights under his belt (getting his stamina used to 10 or 12 rounds), this fight gets MUCH more interesting...but to just wait for a pro debut fighter to tire out after what he's typically used to (5 rounds in UFC), and pot shot him until he can't throw anymore wasn't really impressive to me. a quick stoppage to say the least. i think they wanted to stop it quickly to avoid conor getting hurt, but i think letting him go down first would have made more sense. i know they were protecting him, but if they really wanted to do that, just have the fight go 4 or 5 rounds.

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