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  • JayBee74
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2002
    • 22989

    #3301
    Re: Boxing Off-Topic

    Originally posted by N51_rob
    Will we ever see Eiran again?
    LOL, I doubt it but he's welcome back particularly minus the occasional abrasiveness.

    Adrien did some stuff late but I thought he lost ten rounds. If it wasn't a walkover it was a boxing lesson. Mikey punched through that guard and body punched enough to beat Broner's gloves-up, no punch defense.

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    • Money99
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2002
      • 12694

      #3302
      Re: Boxing Off-Topic

      Dan Rafael had Garcia with the shutout; 12-0.
      I heard one person say that Broner was the fastest slow fighter he's ever seen.
      So true.
      Quick hands, slow feet and has a pathetic punch rate.
      Broner is finished.
      I don't think he can make 140 and retain his wind or strength anymore.
      But he's not strong enough at 147.
      Career in limbo.

      Saying that, I'd love to see him fight Danny Garcia.


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      • Eiran
        Banned
        • Jul 2017
        • 28

        #3303
        Re: Boxing Off-Topic

        What Ya talking bout I'm right here, real man take Ls on the chin. what could i say he didn't do job point blank. but how could i not go with twin, bro I'm from cincinnati, and train at the same gym lol, its boxing at the end of the day. Nuke aka Raushee Warren Won also so were not sweating over this a way.

        TF yal fuk boys talm bout.
        Last edited by Eiran; 07-30-2017, 12:14 AM.

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        • JayBee74
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2002
          • 22989

          #3304
          Re: Boxing Off-Topic

          Originally posted by Money99
          I don't think he can make 140 and retain his wind or strength anymore.
          But he's not strong enough at 147.
          Career in limbo.
          With sustained work, I think he could make 140 for the immediate future but he's lost any chance at Crawford. There are some promising fighters coming up at junior welter but none with much name recognition even by boxing fan standards. Postol hasn't fought since Crawford beat him over a year ago so Adrien could take a tough fight against him. I don't think Garcia-Broner will happen but I wouldn't mind seeing newly activated Lucas Matthysse take him on at his new weight of 147. Broner's consistent $1 million+ paydays (both fighters made that tonight) are probably coming to an end.

          Mikey Garcia would take the Crawford fight for the right price tag, but I don't think he's quite ready to win. I also think he needs to wait before going up to 147.

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          • steelcityjames
            Pro
            • Dec 2010
            • 877

            #3305
            Re: Boxing Off-Topic

            Garcia's technique is darn near flawless...he would have had a tougher time boxing his own shadow

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            • sheredia
              MVP
              • Apr 2006
              • 2350

              #3306
              Re: Boxing Off-Topic

              Originally posted by JayBee74
              With sustained work, I think he could make 140 for the immediate future but he's lost any chance at Crawford. There are some promising fighters coming up at junior welter but none with much name recognition even by boxing fan standards. Postol hasn't fought since Crawford beat him over a year ago so Adrien could take a tough fight against him. I don't think Garcia-Broner will happen but I wouldn't mind seeing newly activated Lucas Matthysse take him on at his new weight of 147. Broner's consistent $1 million+ paydays (both fighters made that tonight) are probably coming to an end.

              Mikey Garcia would take the Crawford fight for the right price tag, but I don't think he's quite ready to win. I also think he needs to wait before going up to 147.
              garcia looked good at 140 but needs to face the other champions at lightweight before he is ready for crawford....

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              • Eiran
                Banned
                • Jul 2017
                • 28

                #3307
                Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                Originally posted by JayBee74
                With sustained work, I think he could make 140 for the immediate future but he's lost any chance at Crawford. There are some promising fighters coming up at junior welter but none with much name recognition even by boxing fan standards. Postol hasn't fought since Crawford beat him over a year ago so Adrien could take a tough fight against him. I don't think Garcia-Broner will happen but I wouldn't mind seeing newly activated Lucas Matthysse take him on at his new weight of 147. Broner's consistent $1 million+ paydays (both fighters made that tonight) are probably coming to an end.

                Mikey Garcia would take the Crawford fight for the right price tag, but I don't think he's quite ready to win. I also think he needs to wait before going up to 147.

                Mikey didn't look great to me, broner just didn't do SH**, as usual. His punch output was frustrating to watch, and after giving the first 7 rounds away i went to bed, and turned on an episode of Frazier.

                Mikey will be too small for 147, Guys like Crawford is a NO, NO for him. Thurman, Porter, Errol Spence Jr. will all dog walk mikey at 147lbs. Come on now, be real you honestly see this guy beating Terrence Crawford!? you must be drunk.

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                • N51_rob
                  Faceuary!
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 14805

                  #3308
                  Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by Eiran
                  Mikey didn't look great to me, broner just didn't do SH**, as usual. His punch output was frustrating to watch, and after giving the first 7 rounds away i went to bed, and turned on an episode of Frazier.

                  Mikey will be too small for 147, Guys like Crawford is a NO, NO for him. Thurman, Porter, Errol Spence Jr. will all dog walk mikey at 147lbs. Come on now, be real you honestly see this guy beating Terrence Crawford!? you must be drunk.
                  Consider this a warning. Your attitude in this tread is ridiculous. If you can't engage in a conversation without insulting other members who's opinions you don't agree with OS isn't the place for you. Boxing Scene is probably more your speed.

                  JayBee even said "Mikey Garcia would take the Crawford fight for the right price tag, but I don't think he's quite ready to win." so you are clearly just here to argue and insult people who aren't in love with Broner and all Cincinnati boxers.
                  Last edited by N51_rob; 07-30-2017, 02:11 PM.
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                  • Eiran
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2017
                    • 28

                    #3309
                    Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by N51_rob
                    Consider this a warning. Your attitude in this tread is ridiculous. If you can't engage in a conversation without insulting other members who's opinions you don't agree with OS isn't the place for you. Boxing Scene is probably more your speed.

                    JayBee even said "Mikey Garcia would take the Crawford fight for the right price tag, but I don't think he's quite ready to win." so you are clearly just here to argue and insult people who aren't in love with Broner and all Cincinnati boxers.

                    Man what the hell are you talking about, talking bout ridiculous attitude.
                    Who are you? you not checking no one, I'm a grown a** man, i can say whatever i want to say. this a public forum and we live in america, you sound silly thinking your reinforcing anything. What type of Grown a** man is a moderator of a Forum, don't you have a regular job or something besides being offended about another mans post that doesn't have anything to do with you in the first place.

                    Secondly, Man i can give less about a Damn Adrien Broner, that man not feeding my family or putting no money in my pocket, we having a open discussion about Boxing, and if you think everyone is supposed to have the same opinion then your living in fairy land my guy. Seems like just because i rooted for Broner I'm an outcast here and your trying to ostracize me because I'm not agreeing with you and your fanbase.

                    Last but no least, I'm not here to argue, and never was to begin with. I state my opinion just like everybody else and have that right. if you disagree so be it, be mad mf, that aint got nothing to do with me.

                    As for JayBee, i have no problem with him, we simply had a disagreement and thats that. Then you made a ignorant comment stating " insult people who aren't in love with Broner and all Cincinnati boxers." What are you even talking about dude? Because what i feel a person might say might be "silly" or "drunk" imo, you take that an an insult? are you serious? i would expect a grown man to have thicker skin than that. Grow some hair on your nuts and quit being so sinsitive. Sheesh.

                    Peace
                    Last edited by Eiran; 07-30-2017, 03:22 PM.

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                    • pietasterp
                      All Star
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 6237

                      #3310
                      Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                      Wow, that escalated quickly.....

                      Have to agree with the majority....I'm really not sure where Broner goes from here. It's clear he's not competitive at 147, and he's a cut below the top-flight at 140 based on what we saw last night...I don't know for sure but I suspect he will have a hard time making any weight below 140 at this point in his career. He's still only 29, so he can rebuild, but that will take a total re-commitment and re-examination of every aspect of his career. It would be a notable reclamation project if it comes to pass.

                      As for Mikey, I am excited to see him keep fighting, but I think 140 is the right weight for him. I'd be very dubious about him moving up to 147, as I think the competition there is a cut above where he is at this point. Although, depending on what happens with his career from this point, Mikey Garcia could be one of the all-time "what-if" guys, given his career trajectory prior to the 2+ year lay-off due to the contract dispute.

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                      • sheredia
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 2350

                        #3311
                        Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                        Originally posted by pietasterp
                        Wow, that escalated quickly.....

                        Have to agree with the majority....I'm really not sure where Broner goes from here. It's clear he's not competitive at 147, and he's a cut below the top-flight at 140 based on what we saw last night...I don't know for sure but I suspect he will have a hard time making any weight below 140 at this point in his career. He's still only 29, so he can rebuild, but that will take a total re-commitment and re-examination of every aspect of his career. It would be a notable reclamation project if it comes to pass.

                        As for Mikey, I am excited to see him keep fighting, but I think 140 is the right weight for him. I'd be very dubious about him moving up to 147, as I think the competition there is a cut above where he is at this point. Although, depending on what happens with his career from this point, Mikey Garcia could be one of the all-time "what-if" guys, given his career trajectory prior to the 2+ year lay-off due to the contract dispute.
                        yeah, it did....lol. anyways, he could be right about mikey, but we will have to wait and see how he grows into 147, if he ever does. as far as broner goes, he was rooting for him and went to bed to watch frazier for pete's sake....that's how bad it was.

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                        • JayBee74
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 22989

                          #3312
                          Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by pietasterp
                          As for Mikey, I am excited to see him keep fighting, but I think 140 is the right weight for him. I'd be very dubious about him moving up to 147, as I think the competition there is a cut above where he is at this point. Although, depending on what happens with his career from this point, Mikey Garcia could be one of the all-time "what-if" guys, given his career trajectory prior to the 2+ year lay-off due to the contract dispute.
                          Yeah, 147 also may be too big for him at least for now. He was fighting at featherweight (126) only 4 1/2 years ago and super featherweight (130) just before his long break due to contractual differences. Still, Broner was feeling some of his power Saturday night so who knows? For the time being, I know he could make 135, but will that time expire before he could get Lomachenko or rising star Gervonta Davis to move up from 130?

                          That being said Garcia mentioned the possibility of facing Keith Thurman in very early 2018. "One Time" is currently recuperating from an injury.

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                          • gmac0322
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 1650

                            #3313
                            Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by JayBee74
                            Yeah, 147 also may be too big for him at least for now. He was fighting at featherweight (126) only 4 1/2 years ago and super featherweight (130) just before his long break due to contractual differences. Still, Broner was feeling some of his power Saturday night so who knows? For the time being, I know he could make 135, but will that time expire before he could get Lomachenko or rising star Gervonta Davis to move up from 130?

                            That being said Garcia mentioned the possibility of facing Keith Thurman in very early 2018. "One Time" is currently recuperating from an injury.
                            Not sure Garcia has enough for Thurman. That might be too early for that fight. For Garcia's side. I would love to see a Crawford vs Thurman fight. Or Thurman vs Spence. What do you think about Garcia vs Kahn?

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                            • JayBee74
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 22989

                              #3314
                              Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by gmac0322
                              Not sure Garcia has enough for Thurman. That might be too early for that fight. For Garcia's side. I would love to see a Crawford vs Thurman fight. Or Thurman vs Spence. What do you think about Garcia vs Kahn?
                              I could watch Garcia VS Kahn. Interesting fight.

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                              • steelcityjames
                                Pro
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 877

                                #3315
                                Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                                I'd like to see Garcia stay at 140 for the foreseeable future. The matchups will take care of themselves and fall into place. I think too many fighters move around in weight class too quickly and it sometimes causes their skills to diminish at a quicker pace than normal

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