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  • Brandwin
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2002
    • 30621

    #76
    Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

    Originally posted by JayBee74
    Hype? Guerrero was a 7-1 underdog. Mayweather needs no hype. His fan base is huge.
    And add to the fact non fans hate this guy and pay for the fights just so they can hopefully see him lose.

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    • raiders81tim
      Pro
      • Jul 2009
      • 585

      #77
      Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

      Originally posted by TajDeni
      you see heres the problem, when another fighter is in the ring with floyd theres no way to tell if that boxer is actually good or not. floyd just makes everyone look bad.

      not being a die hard boxing fans who follows the sport faithfully like i do with some other sports, alot of times i dont know who these guys are until a major fight is scheduled.

      so heres the question i have, is guerrero actually a good fighter, floyd aside?
      Before tonight I thought he had a real chance. Watch his fight against Berto. Dude was a beast. Strong Body work, solid chin, heart the size of a lion and south paw on top of all of that.

      I thought this would give floyd a real fight. Floyds never really done that well against south paws.

      Honestly in all my years watching dude, the only person to really give Floyd fits was Oscar, a young Oscar would have beat Floyd, just on his jab alone. If Oscar could have kept his jab going in that fight he would have won and easily. He was just too old and ran out of gas.

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      • LakerFan56
        Rookie
        • Feb 2013
        • 415

        #78
        Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

        Originally posted by HozAndMoose
        Once he retires. Boxing is dead. No one besides him and Pacquiao draw any major interest. UFC has Jones for quite some time. And theres no doubt someone new will show up.
        Joe Rogan said once DLH, Hopkins and Jermain Taylor retired boxing would be dead. How'd that turn out?

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        • LakerFan56
          Rookie
          • Feb 2013
          • 415

          #79
          Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

          Originally posted by raiders81tim
          5. 10. 12 at least in my card.
          I gave Guerrero 1 and 5. I guess they can give round 12 to Guerrero too but it didnt really matter then. I thought the scores were fair.

          So much for Mayweather looking old at 36. He looked as strong and fast as ever. There is no one at 147 who would challenge Floyd. A Pacquiao fight would still be interesting but I think Mayweather would KO Manny at this stage, but I'd still want to see it.

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          • N51_rob
            Faceuary!
            • Jul 2003
            • 14805

            #80
            Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

            Originally posted by TajDeni
            you see heres the problem, when another fighter is in the ring with floyd theres no way to tell if that boxer is actually good or not. floyd just makes everyone look bad.

            not being a die hard boxing fans who follows the sport faithfully like i do with some other sports, alot of times i dont know who these guys are until a major fight is scheduled.

            so heres the question i have, is guerrero actually a good fighter, floyd aside?
            http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...7437&cat=boxer

            He is a solid fighter that earned his fight (and huge payday) vs Floyd. Was he a serious threat to Floyd no, not at all. But he is a good fighter who has won legitimate titles over the course of his career.
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            • Sundown2600
              Brake less...Go Faster!
              • Jul 2009
              • 1362

              #81
              Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

              Just went through the list of contenders at 154 and 147. There is nobody out there for Floyd to fight besides Canelo. Who the hell does he fight after that is the question I have.

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              • N51_rob
                Faceuary!
                • Jul 2003
                • 14805

                #82
                Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

                Originally posted by Sundown2600
                Just went through the list of contenders at 154 and 147. There is nobody out there for Floyd to fight besides Canelo. Who the hell does he fight after that is the question I have.
                At this stage in his career Floyd isn't about fighting the best at 147 or 154 he is about getting the most money for his 47 minutes of work. So that list includes:

                Canelo
                Berto
                Broner
                Khan (not really but he brings the UK buys, a la Hatton)
                Peterson/Mathius winner
                Pacquio (easy work, but there are still like 18 people plus the island of the Phillipines (sp) that want to see this fight.)


                Floyd is looking for a fight in September which puts some of these guys out of play, but what ever fighter can bring the most PPV buys is his next fight.
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                • LakerFan56
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                  • Feb 2013
                  • 415

                  #83
                  Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

                  Originally posted by N51_rob
                  At this stage in his career Floyd isn't about fighting the best at 147 or 154 he is about getting the most money for his 47 minutes of work. So that list includes:

                  Canelo
                  Berto
                  Broner
                  Khan (not really but he brings the UK buys, a la Hatton)
                  Peterson/Mathius winner
                  Pacquio (easy work, but there are still like 18 people plus the island of the Phillipines (sp) that want to see this fight.)


                  Floyd is looking for a fight in September which puts some of these guys out of play, but what ever fighter can bring the most PPV buys is his next fight.
                  The biggest payday from that list is easily Canelo. Broner would be interesting but I don't know if he wants to go there right away. Pacquiao is still a draw like Mosley, Margarito and Cotto were after their loses.

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                  • ksolo12
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 847

                    #84
                    Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

                    Originally posted by DookieMowf
                    And add to the fact non fans hate this guy and pay for the fights just so they can hopefully see him lose.
                    Its quite genius cause these non fans that you speak about keep adding millions to Mayweathers pocket by tuning in. They actually keep him alive in terms of additional hype and interest.
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                    • 2_headedmonster
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 2251

                      #85
                      Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

                      For the life of me i cant understand the merit for the myth that ODLH was giving Floyd fits..... True enough he landed some jabs, but other than that he was pitty-patting on shoulders with weak non scoring blows....

                      I gave Oscar maybe three rounds

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                      • bigeastbumrush
                        My Momma's Son
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 19245

                        #86
                        Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

                        Originally posted by 2_headedmonster
                        For the life of me i cant understand the merit for the myth that ODLH was giving Floyd fits..... True enough he landed some jabs, but other than that he was pitty-patting on shoulders with weak non scoring blows....

                        I gave Oscar maybe three rounds
                        All DLH was trying to do was to steal rounds. It was actually pathetic. The only reason it seemed closer because it was a pro-DLH crowd and pro-DLH announcers were calling the fight.

                        And PBF won't be fighting Broner. Not even for a payday. And if he fights Canelo, it won't be this September. Him fighting Berto makes no sense.

                        I'd like to see him fight Khan only because the buildup and hype for that fight would be insane. And pundits would give Khan a puncher's chance.

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                        • JayBee74
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 22989

                          #87
                          Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

                          I can't believe one judge gave Oscar the fight.

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                          • aholbert32
                            (aka Alberto)
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 33106

                            #88
                            Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

                            Originally posted by Sundown2600
                            Boxing is alive and will never die. True boxing fans know that. I don't have a problem with the MMA popularity although I am not a huge fan but I also don't like the comparisons. Two different sports.
                            Thank you. I'm a HUGE MMA fan and I hate when people act like the two sports should be compared or are competing. Both sports are doing fine.

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                            • aholbert32
                              (aka Alberto)
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 33106

                              #89
                              Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

                              Originally posted by N51_rob
                              At this stage in his career Floyd isn't about fighting the best at 147 or 154 he is about getting the most money for his 47 minutes of work. So that list includes:

                              Canelo
                              Berto
                              Broner
                              Khan (not really but he brings the UK buys, a la Hatton)
                              Peterson/Mathius winner
                              Pacquio (easy work, but there are still like 18 people plus the island of the Phillipines (sp) that want to see this fight.)


                              Floyd is looking for a fight in September which puts some of these guys out of play, but what ever fighter can bring the most PPV buys is his next fight.
                              Canelo (maybe Khan) is the only fighter on that list that is a real possibility:

                              Broner and Floyd are really good friends and I doubt they would fight each other especially with Broner on his way up and Floyd looking at retirement.

                              Berto got destroyed by Ghost and lost to Ortiz. Hard to sell a fight against Floyd to the public.

                              Peterson and Mattyhse (sp?) arent big enough names or have enough of a following to sell PPV (Ghost at least had a mexican following)

                              Pac will never happen as long as he is signed to Top Rank.

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                              • N51_rob
                                Faceuary!
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 14805

                                #90
                                Originally posted by aholbert32
                                Canelo (maybe Khan) is the only fighter on that list that is a real possibility:

                                Broner and Floyd are really good friends and I doubt they would fight each other especially with Broner on his way up and Floyd looking at retirement.

                                Berto got destroyed by Ghost and lost to Ortiz. Hard to sell a fight against Floyd to the public.

                                Peterson and Mattyhse (sp?) arent big enough names or have enough of a following to sell PPV (Ghost at least had a mexican following)

                                Pac will never happen as long as he is signed to Top Rank.
                                Agree 100%. But I still contend that those names are in play because well what else is out there?

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