Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

[aholbert32]

Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

Agree 100%. But I still contend that those names are in play because well what else is out there?

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I think it will go like this. In September he will fight Khan in Vegas and Canelo will fight Cotto. Depending on who wins Cotto v. Canelo, they will fight floyd next May. Paq will be done with his TR contract and will agree to fight Floyd in late 2014.

[deedabest]

Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

I can see a Peterson or maybe even a Bradley fight. Khan has been getting stomped lately. But Canelo is the way only person worth i see a watchable fight at this point. I don't think boxing wants to see another showing of pure dominance we witnessed yesterday.

[JayBee74]

Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

Khan? Malignaggi might be able to hurt him at this stage, and he'd be going up to get to 147.

Canelo's only obstacle is the price he'll be willing to take. Floyd's camp didn't give any money away to RG, and they aren't going to start with Alvarez. Call me crazy but I think the ceiling for this very popular Mexican fighter is $7 million, maybe a little less if Money goes for $45 to $50 million.

EDIT: Maybe the ceiling is more likely $10 million, but remember the disparity between Pacquiao Marquez ($25 million plus VS $3 million)

Why not Trout for 30 more million?

[aholbert32]

Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

Khan? Malignaggi might be able to hurt him at this stage, and he'd be going up to get to 147.

Canelo's only obstacle is the price he'll be willing to take. Floyd's camp didn't give any money away to RG, and they aren't going to start with Alvarez. Call me crazy but I think the ceiling for this very popular Mexican fighter is $7 million, maybe a little less if Money goes for $45 to $50 million.

EDIT: Maybe the ceiling is more likely $10 million, but remember the disparity between Pacquiao Marquez ($25 million plus VS $3 million)

Why not Trout for 30 more million?

Trout isnt a draw. Sho isnt going to guarantee Floyd 30 mil to fight Trout. Thats why Khan is a better option. The Brits travel and Khan has a bigger name. That equals a bigger guarantee for Floyd.

[JayBee74]

Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

Trout isnt a draw. Sho isnt going to guarantee Floyd 30 mil to fight Trout. Thats why Khan is a better option. The Brits travel and Khan has a bigger name. That equals a bigger guarantee for Floyd.

You may be right, I'm just thinking if they can hype RG up to 32 PLUS $Million for Floyd they could squeeze quite a bit out of Trout.

[2_headedmonster]

Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

Considering Floyd has this whole PPV on hispanic holidays thing down to a science, I believe that Floyd will fight Canelo in September with something like a 'same day weigh-in' or a rehydration clause.

Fighting a guy nearly 180 in a 154lb bout defeats the point of weight classes.

He will fight a very similar fight as he did on Saturday, his victory will be discredited and the crys for him to fight either Ward, Vitali or Vladimir will begin. SMH

[JayBee74]

Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

He will fight a very similar fight as he did on Saturday, his victory will be discredited and the crys for him to fight either Ward, Vitali or Vladimir will begin. SMH

Yeah, there were several "crys" for him to fight Hopkins, Taylor, and Pavlik when they held the middleweight belt.

I don't recall anyone, including himself, that pushed for those fights.

[LakerFan56]

Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

Yeah, there were several "crys" for him to fight Hopkins, Taylor, and Pavlik when they held the middleweight belt.

I don't recall anyone, including himself, that pushed for those fights.

I dont recall that either. I know Sergio Martinez was asked about fighting Pacman and Mayweather years back, but thats it.

[SHAKYR]

Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

Considering Floyd has this whole PPV on hispanic holidays thing down to a science, I believe that Floyd will fight Canelo in September with something like a 'same day weigh-in' or a rehydration clause.

Fighting a guy nearly 180 in a 154lb bout defeats the point of weight classes.

He will fight a very similar fight as he did on Saturday, his victory will be discredited and the crys for him to fight either Ward, Vitali or Vladimir will begin. SMH

I couldn't agree more with your whole post! I said to a couple of sports writers on Facebook who thought Guerrero was going to beat Floyd that Floyd was going to pot shot Guerrero and not let him have his way.
So-called fans always want Floyd to fight above his weight. This is what destroyed Roy career. Floyd can't keep changing from weight class to another because it will damage is reflexes and body at this time in his career.
It's funny you mentioned people want Mayweather to fight the Klitchkos or a heavyweight. I said exact same thing on a Facebook and Twitter post....lol!

[JODYE]

Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

Honestly, I feel bad for anyone that actually paid the full $70 for this fight.

What a snooze fest. Guerrero was completely out matched. In his current state, I'm not sure he could have even gave Mosley a challenge. Floyd put on a clinic. Thought it was hilarious that they somehow found a way to unanimously agree that somehow RG won 3 rounds. I saw one, maybe 2 tops.

Honestly, if these are the type of scrubs that Mayweather is looking to ride out in the sunset with, then you forget about any Canelo fight actually happening.

[2_headedmonster]

Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

Honestly, I feel bad for anyone that actually paid the full $70 for this fight.

What a snooze fest. Guerrero was completely out matched. In his current state, I'm not sure he could have even gave Mosley a challenge. Floyd put on a clinic. Thought it was hilarious that they somehow found a way to unanimously agree that somehow RG won 3 rounds. I saw one, maybe 2 tops.

Honestly, if these are the type of scrubs that Mayweather is looking to ride out in the sunset with, then you forget about any Canelo fight actually happening.

See, thats the thing. Against Floyd Canelo will look like the same scrub and then afterwards it will be said that "Mayweather fought a 22yr old rookie instead of the real challenge that is (insert name here) "

Canelo JUST showed a new dimension in his 40-odd fight....head movement...and he's getting praise for it. Never mind the fact that i didnt have him winning his last fight, but Im just not of the opinion that someone with such a low work rate and stamina reservoir will be Floyds undoing...

[blackceasar]

Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

Honestly, I feel bad for anyone that actually paid the full $70 for this fight.

What a snooze fest. Guerrero was completely out matched. In his current state, I'm not sure he could have even gave Mosley a challenge. Floyd put on a clinic. Thought it was hilarious that they somehow found a way to unanimously agree that somehow RG won 3 rounds. I saw one, maybe 2 tops.

Honestly, if these are the type of scrubs that Mayweather is looking to ride out in the sunset with, then you forget about any Canelo fight actually happening.

I went to a bar, paid a 20.00 cover then drank another 50.00 in beer haha.

Seriously though everyone Floyd has fought in a while (outside of Cotto maybe) has been someone that you knew he was clearly going to beat AND it was someone that really was just looking to get that big payday for getting into the ring with Floyd. This is what has bothered me about the last few guys to fight him outside of Cotto. Leading up to the fight, they talk all this stuff about how Floyd needs to be put in his place. How he's so flamboyant that he's disrespectful to his opponent and the sport. Then this is what happens...

Fight starts... some of them show promise the first two rounds. Round 3, Floyd figures them out, starts sticking them with the jab and counter punching with the hook. Fight goes the distance, Flyod wins easily and the dude he just effortlessly beat his standing there smiling all happy right afterwards because he knows he just got the biggest payday he's ever going to have in his career. Outside of Cotto lately, I havent seen anyone that has shown true dissapointment in their loss. Its all smiles and hugs and everyone is laughing and celebrating the big payday. Guerrero was no different. And in his interview when he said "man I'm gonna keep boxing, maybe so I can get another shot at Mayweather". What he really meant was "I'm going to keep boxing and hope for another big payday from him even though I know the same thing is going to happen". Even Guerrero's dad was all in the right smiling and laughing as if the whole thing was just a movie they just shot, it wrapped up, and he's thanking showtime and the Mayweather camp for paying them to be the co-star in the episode of the Mayweather show. Imagine if there was a fight purse, and it was winner take all? You think some of these dudes would approach these fights with him differently? I think so.

At the same time though there are only maybe 3 or four fighters over the past five years or so that I think would pose a real threat to him and he's yet to fight any of them and probably never will. He wont fight Pac. I think he will duck Canello. I think if Broner made it up to 147 I dont think he would fight him either. Its not that I think Floyd is scared. I don't think he's scared of any fighter in the literal sense. I think Floyd is a smart business man. You have to understand that the entire Mayweather brand, everything he is, and sells to the public would all die if he suffered a loss. His brand has been built on perfection. Pefrect defense, perfect plan for everyone he's fought, perfect win loss record and as long as he's undefeated, the money raking in Mayweather brand lives. He sold himself long ago on all of that, so he's got to maintain that by any means necesssary.

[Jukeman]

Yeah, there were several "crys" for him to fight Hopkins, Taylor, and Pavlik when they held the middleweight belt.

I don't recall anyone, including himself, that pushed for those fights.

You may not have agreed with those fights but that point still stands, fans were crying for him to fight those guys.

[JayBee74]

Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

You may not have agreed with those fights but that point still stands, fans were crying for him to fight those guys.

I have no problem with the welterweight or junior middleweight champ fighting for the middleweight title. It's been done before. Floyd has never aspired to it.

What fans? Floyd fans or fans of anybody but Floyd?

[JayBee74]

Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

Floyd is ruling out Alvarez as his next opponent.

No Canelo