Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

[Complex]

Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

I can see why Roy Jones and Malignaggi would say Kahn would have a chance against Mayweather. Kahn does have the hand speed to hang with Floyd, but I don't know if he can go 12 rounds without getting tagged and KO'd.

His chin is horrible and he has a less than stellar IQ. Khan would get lose by stoppage inside of 6 rounds.

[bigeastbumrush]

Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

Depending if you can believe what was reported, apparently Manny gave in to all of Floyds demands, including random blood testing. But then Floyd changed his mind about the money split and the fight was called off again.

When Floyd first retired in late 2007, the division was booming.
Margarito was a monster, and Paul Williams was an absolute freakshow at 147.
Cotto, Mosley and even Clottey and Cintron were up there as well, with Berto on the rise.
I think people were really excited for Floyd to fight some of these guys, especially Williams.

Then he ducked Pac. Say what you want about money, etc, both guys would have been rich from this fight, even at a 50/50 split.
Mayweather, IMO, really hurt his legacy by allowing money to get in the way of a superfight.

JayBee, I'm with you. I used to hate him a lot, but now I've softened on him.

There's nothing wrong with his legacy.

[N51_rob]

There's nothing wrong with his legacy.

He doesn't get nearly enough credit for being unhittable in the ring. Dude's can't put gloves on him.

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[JODYE]

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I also never understood this assumption, at least from the general media, that Floyd as a boxer, wouldn't hold up in these last 5 fights. Obviously not from anyone here, but various blogs and blurbs about this last 30 month stretch for Floyd.

Look at Hopkins who just won a belt at 48. Floyd is 3 times the fighter defensively that B-Hop is and he is still going strong. I have no doubt in my mind that if Floyd really wanted to he could fight another 5-6 years without a blemish.

You literally can not hit the guy.

[blackceasar]

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I can see why Roy Jones and Malignaggi would say Kahn would have a chance against Mayweather. Kahn does have the hand speed to hang with Floyd, but I don't know if he can go 12 rounds without getting tagged and KO'd.

I think Kahn would loose this fight soley on Mayweather's counterpunching ability. I think Kahn would probably find Floyd's head more than most other boxers, but Flyod is a defensive specialist with amazing counter punching ability. I say it goes 12, Flyod wins by unanimous decision but Khan gets some decent shots in.

You know since Manny fell to Marquez, Flyod truly is by far the biggest money making draw. And since fighters dont know if he's going to fight any more past this 5 fight deal or whatever the contract is with Showtime, I think fighters will be coming out of the woodwork to fight him, just to cash in, win or loose.

[JayBee74]

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You know since Manny fell to Marquez, Flyod truly is by far the biggest money making draw.

Barring another devastating defeat Manny will always rival Floyd in drawing power because of his huge Filipino fan base. Unlike Floyd he has a whole country behind him, among many other fans.

[blackceasar]

Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

Barring another devastating defeat Manny will always rival Floyd in drawing power because of his huge Filipino fan base. Unlike Floyd he has a whole country behind him, among many other fans.

There's no doubting the country. However the country is smaller than some individual US states, and then you have to look at just how many people over there are actually buying the PPVs.

[JayBee74]

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There's no doubting the country. However the country is smaller than some individual US states, and then you have to look at just how many people over there are actually buying the PPVs.

97 million people makes it the 12 most populous country in the world, and don't forget the other 12 million Filipinos that live outside the country.

Of course that doesn't include everyone else that likes the guy.

[bigeastbumrush]

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97 million people makes it the 12 most populous country in the world, and don't forget the other 12 million Filipinos that live outside the country.

Of course that doesn't include everyone else that likes the guy.

It is also one of the poorest countries in the world per capita.

[JayBee74]

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It is also one of the poorest countries in the world per capita.

That's a factor but he's still getting paid. His next bout is in China. Despite the friction between the two countries he is hugely popular there, but they don't have PPV yet.

But not as popular as the amateur superstar Zou Shiming, who at only 1-0 as a pro, is looking at a title shot within a year.

[blackceasar]

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I also think that people flock to the Mayweather fights and PPV's because they want to be there and see it live the night he actually gets knocked out or looses a fight. Not that I think this is going to ever happen. I think he will retire undefeated, but I find a way to watch every one of his fights because I feel like if he WERE to get knocked out, it would be the one fight I decide not to watch. LOL. I am that dude, the murphy's law dude which I why I wont go get Lasik eye surgery. I will be that 1 in 1000000000 patients that they mess up on and I'm blind in one eye. lol

[sheredia]

Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero

Guerro is in a long list of fighters recently that fought Mayweather and going into the first couple of rounds was really trying and wanting to win the fight. After Floyd figures them out and starts putting on his clinic that same fighter shifts his gears from laying it all out to beat Floyd to "let me just NOT get knocked out and get my biggest payday ever".

i believe guerrero just plain didn't have the speed or ring generalship to match floyd, but he was game. floyd never hurt him or had him in trouble. you had to figure after the last fight with cotto, floyd would play it safe. the only fighter that stands a chance against floyd is either a guy with a big punch or someone who can match floyd's speed, and it seems like floyd avoids those types of fighters.

[LakerFan56]

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Mayweather vs Canelo are apparently negotiating.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9259942/talks-underway-floyd-money-mayweather-jr-face-saul-canelo-alvarez

[aholbert32]

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Mayweather vs Canelo are apparently negotiating.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...canelo-alvarez

Just like him and Pac negotiated. I'll believe when they sign a contract.

[N51_rob]

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Reading this I will go ahead and say this fight won't happen.

One of the key stumbling blocks to making a Mayweather-Alvarez fight, however, will be settling on the weight. Mayweather is the welterweight champion -- 147 pounds -- who has twice won junior middleweight belts but never has weighed more than 151 pounds for either of those 154-pound maximum fights. Alvarez is a big junior middleweight and has said he was not interested in negotiating a catchweight that would require him to fight at a weight lower than 154

I say that Alvarez needs to realize what he is saying/doing. Floyd is the biggest fight of his career and he will make more money than at any other time in his career. There is no way that Floyd will fight a guy that will re-hydrate to close to 170 lbs for the fight, giving him a functional 20 lb weight advantage on fight night. Not gonna happen nor should we as fight fans expect him to.