i feel like this game is not for casual players at all

[aholbert32]

Re: i feel like this game is not for casual players at all

1) OK, Is this " personal attack" or he just say that disagree with me ?

https://forums.operationsports.com/f...&postcount=110

I found that this is a personal insult and is not for this forum.

So it will be OK when next time i will call you "Lier" instead of "disahgree you are wrong and mistaken" and will post a call "Get the f*** out here, Aholbert"???

2) Is a ban permanent or it has a duration? how long and what factors?

1) That could be considered one but you didnt report it. You assumed that a mod saw it and they likely didnt. You shouldnt assume they read every or even most posts.

2) A ban is supposed to be permanant but exceptions are made at times.

[TheShizNo1]

Re: i feel like this game is not for casual players at all

The only way to win me in discussion is bringing FACTS + LOGIC.
Bringing insults or spam is useless and the sure way to ignore.
You can NOT say that this is wrong, that Reracted or Aholbert over discussed me, but while Aholbert did not insult me, Retracted DID - do wfrom your logic , Retracted must to be bannedm as you banned Oshigi and Reticulan. Why not?

I disagree with your thesis that Retracted was "in-depth poster w facts" at least in discussions with me, every time he started his posts with personal insults to my adres, and some of his "facts" were wrong.

i did not wanted to summon moderators to this thread so i prefered to send him into ignore list instead of reporting his posts... so i dont want to come back now and unlock him , read his insults to make a report, B/C i am sure you already saw those posts which i am talking about and did nothing.
I dont want to ASK moderators HERE now to punish anybody. BUT i am asking about
1) removing DOUBLE STANDARDS, at least in the future.

2) and asking about How long those banned will be in ban (while the other side did not get even warning)?

This victim shtick is getting really really old. Just because someone says something you don't agree with or criticizes a post doesn't mean they're insulting you.

Now you’re ignoring the fact that we can blatantly see there is no time change going on in your video for full guard. Ignoring the fact that only ONE position decreases regen. Ignoring literally everything else you’ve been called out on.

I can’t believe you got away with lying this long until I started actually reading your abhorrently long and redundant posts.

I’ve found when someone says they’re done responding to someone and then immediately responds to them, they are at the end of their rope, mentally.


Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

You again prove yourself to either be purposefully misleading to try and save face or to not have a strong enough grasp on English to debate.

No one in this topic is talking about stand up. You mean to tell me that while everyone is talking about the ground denials and you come in to chat about clinch and takedown denials?

Your point about denials was they couldn't be preemptively denied. So if you were talking about standup denials, why say something so obviously false? Why, in the middle of a debate about GROUND denials, would you say holding R2 gives the opponent GA without clarifying you meant standing up?

You are also STILL wrong about blocking reducing recovery time (except during standup, which we were NOT talking about). I don't see any difference in recovery while in full guard in the video and I just tried it myself in several positions on the ground. No change in recovery time. You do lose recovery in single collar while blocking, but not in any other clinch position (maybe submissive Muay Thai, didn't test it). There is even an animation in single collar for holding block, but not in the others. That to me signifies the fact that single collar is an outlier.

He pointed out a flaw in a video that you showed.
Said you were lying in your posts (which appeared questionable with the video).
Said your post were really long and repetitive.
Said you either change the subject when wrong or struggle with English at times (you've admitted this).


None of these are insults, man.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Operation Sports mobile app

[RetractedMonkey]

Re: i feel like this game is not for casual players at all

I'll actually disagree with you a little on this. One of the consistent arguments I had earlier this year was basically different versions of this:

"Elite ranked fighters feel X is over or under powered. Players at OS dont think thats the case and then think the change could make the game more unrealistic. The change is made in favor of ranked fighters".

With that said, I think that the majority of those situations have turned out to make the game better. The reality is ranked players tend to play the game more often than most. They tend to take the time to know the details and mechanics of the game. They tend to interact with players who use exploits and can clearly express what issues they are seeing.

I'll reword it to reflect my thoughts more accurately: there hasn't be catering to the top players in any way that makes the game more arcadey or unrealistic. The game is catered to the top players in the sense that they know what's best for the game's systems, generally, but not catered to make them better players. Only to increase the overall balance of the game.

[SUGATA]

Re: i feel like this game is not for casual players at all

Off top
ic, but SUGATA you are some right about the side lunges being somewhat broken, so I'm going to have to apologize for not believing you. Not enough to be game breaking, but definitely annoying lol.

too late, dude, after so many counters to that thread ... i repented of sin and is ready to go to the monastery... farewell. dont stop me!

[RetractedMonkey]

Re: i feel like this game is not for casual players at all

Off topic, but SUGATA you are some right about the side lunges being somewhat broken, so I'm going to have to apologize for not believing you. Not enough to be game breaking, but definitely annoying lol.

You don't have to apologize. He made a ridiculous claim about how he was "unbreakable" using the lunges and then admitted he never even took it against a real player. He could have been completely right, but made no solid effort to prove his claim. If he came with some gameplay evidence of him in ranked slicing guys up with lunges, no one would have questioned him like that.

[SUGATA]

Re: i feel like this game is not for casual players at all

This victim shtick is getting really really old. Just because someone says something you don't agree with or criticizes a post doesn't mean they're insulting you.





He pointed out a flaw in a video that you showed.
Said you were lying in your posts (which appeared questionable with the video).
Said your post were really long and repetitive.
Said you either change the subject when wrong or struggle with English at times (you've admitted this).


None of these are insults, man.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Operation Sports mobile app

So, you wanted to say that you have not see this post (which is pure 100% personal insult) that days?... or saw and closed your eyes b/c of no reports.. this is double standards, man.

that was Daisuk's post

Retracted continued to calling me "lier"

I dont like to report anybody, the only time it was when some guy used national insulting to me.

[RomeroXVII]

Re: i feel like this game is not for casual players at all

You don't have to apologize. He made a ridiculous claim about how he was "unbreakable" using the lunges and then admitted he never even took it against a real player. He could have been completely right, but made no solid effort to prove his claim. If he came with some gameplay evidence of him in ranked slicing guys up with lunges, no one would have questioned him like that.

It's more of a half apology if anything. I don't regret calling him out on it, but that thread is now the reason I see people trying it now lol.

Sent from my SM-G965U using Operation Sports mobile app

[DaisukEasy]

Re: i feel like this game is not for casual players at all

1) OK, Is this " personal attack" or he just say that disagree with me?

https://forums.operationsports.com/f...&postcount=110

Neither.

So it will be OK when next time i will call you "Lier" instead of "disahgree you are wrong and mistaken"

This isn't a disagreement. I just think you lied on purpose to avoid having to admit you were wrong. So I called you out.

and will post a call "Get the f*** out here, Aholbert"???

Zero sense of humor. I literally meme'd you with Conor. You take yourself way too seriously.

[SUGATA]

Re: i feel like this game is not for casual players at all

1) That could be considered one but you didnt report it. You assumed that a mod saw it and they likely didnt. You shouldnt assume they read every or even most posts.

2) A ban is supposed to be permanant but exceptions are made at times.

1) So as wee found that some one STARTED insulting the other side of discussion (and not only me but others later too)- NO MATTER old or not - so i dont think that banning permanently is right step...

2) What about some exceptions b/c of TWO sides were not right honestly? and to cancel ban or at least to decrease its duration?

[aholbert32]

Re: i feel like this game is not for casual players at all

1) So as wee found that some one STARTED insulting the other side of discussion (and not only me but others later too)- NO MATTER old or not - so i dont think that banning permanently is right step...

2) What about some exceptions b/c of TWO sides were not right honestly? and to cancel ban or at least to decrease its duration?

Whether you think a permanant ban is the "right step" doesnt matter. You and everyone else here agreed to the terms of service when you joined OS. If you dont like them, you are free to post on the myriad of other websites that discuss the game like the EA forums or Reddit.

I dont understand what you are asking with the second question.

[aholbert32]

Re: i feel like this game is not for casual players at all

Neither.



This isn't a disagreement. I just think you lied on purpose to avoid having to admit you were wrong. So I called you out.




Zero sense of humor. I literally meme'd you with Conor. You take yourself way too seriously.

You do need to be more careful though. Again, its a clear line. Attack the post not the poster. Say that what he said was a lie instead of calling him a liar.

[SUGATA]

Re: i feel like this game is not for casual players at all

Whether you think a permanant ban is the "right step" doesnt matter. You and everyone else here agreed to the terms of service when you joined OS. If you dont like them, you are free to post on the myriad of other websites that discuss the game like the EA forums or Reddit.

I dont understand what you are asking with the second question.

We ALL agreed OS TOS.

But i found that TOS was NOT used to another side persons (their personal insults and provoking), consciously or not no matter, - this IS the problem here.

My second part - i am hoping for "exception" for banned in this thread persons ,otherwise, 2 others must to be banned TOO . This is THE ONLY reason why i returned into this thread after a while.

You do need to be more careful though. Again, its a clear line. Attack the post not the poster. Say that what he said was a lie instead of calling him a liar.

especially when there are keeping to insult others until now.

i saw his post in your quote, - I basically will not report it. I want to watch how moderators will justice on their own here, w/o "reporting".

[aholbert32]

Re: i feel like this game is not for casual players at all

We ALL agreed OS TOS.

But i found that TOS was NOT used to another side persons (their personal insults and provoking), consciously or not matter, - this IS the problem here.

My second part - i am hoping for "exception" for banned in this thread persons ,otherwise, 2 others must to be banned TOO .



especially when there are keeping to insult others until now.

i saw his post in your quote, - I basically will not report it. I want to watch how moderators will justice on their own here, w/o "reporting".

It is not your role to demand how the mods moderate this forum. Also "provoking" is not against the TOS.

[SUGATA]

Re: i feel like this game is not for casual players at all

It is not your role to demand how the mods moderate this forum. Also "provoking" is not against the TOS.

of course not.

this is very simple:

P1 insulted P2 and P3, P2 and P3 have not reported this, later P3 responded by insult for ex, and was banned...
Question 1 - why P1 was not banned as a starter?
b/c he was not reported by anyone - b/c P2 added him to ignore list, P3 was naive may be.

Question 2 - is this OK for forum atmosphere?
is this fair?
I think no, better to ban BOTH or nobody.

> So, i am ASKING may be it will be better to decrease ban period for P3 to solve the problem instead of forcing P2 to report P1's insults to make him banned?

[TheShizNo1]

Re: i feel like this game is not for casual players at all

No. I let a ton of **** go here. Many of you have been PM'd by me to edit a post or to "calm down". I'd rather not ban anyone and I've said this multiple times. But if someone can't check their feelings and blatantly breaks TOS, there are consequences.

Instead of trying to speak for others, maybe telling them to hold themselves accountable for what they type might be a bit better advice.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Operation Sports mobile app