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  • RomeroXVII
    MVP
    • May 2018
    • 1663

    #646
    Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

    Originally posted by 1212headkick
    I dont want to be a gamechanger. I would never sign an nda. Ive said what I wanted. A realistic mma game. My vote would be for pryoxis or sugata instead of you. You do nothing for the community. Your attitude is appauling. You have a knack for belittling others and manipulating things to your liking. I tell the truth and you hate that because honesty is not a virtue I feel your capable of. You double talk too much for any thinking individual to honestly believe you have their interests as gamers at heart. I am all open to being proven wrong in this aspect. You support exploiters for gamechangers like zombie. Hes ruined his name because of how he fought amongst the xbox elite players. I must not suck that bad if I beat a gamechanger.

    Sounds like you're talking about yourself here.

    Aholbert plays both sides so people can see where the argument will fall versus the other. He doesn't have an agenda for anything, and he will respond accordingly if you confront the IDEA and not the person.

    He's also done way more for the community than you have any clue about.

    Whereas, I liked aholbert's responses' to you on another thread, and you went as far as to DM me on Twitter saying ' Why are you on aholbert's d***. (And I have the screenshot to prove it as well.)


    You make vast assumptions about things you clearly do not know about, you don't know how aholbert has contacted OTHER higher level players to get their inputs on what should be done for the next installment of the game, you take nearly every single response as a personal attack against YOU, and proceed to go off on a nonsensical rant about something completely off topic, and then you'll finish it with how you almost died and that's why you have such 'passion' for the game, and apparently you believe that should give you a 'pass' on how you talk to others from time to time.

    For example, I'm a 2x NJCAA National qualifier heading into NCAA D3, who's life was saved by wrestling and which is now parlaying into MMA for my future after wrestling and college, however REGARDLESS of my background in said sport, or who I train with, I won't use my passion for a sport to belittle somebody else because they have a different opinion than me. I don't care if you're a guy who simply games off of his couch and nothing more, if you have a good point and solid reasoning I will hear you out.


    You're calling Zombie an exploiter for his style, even though when you fought Spider on stream, literally all you did was throw knees, side kicks, and spinning side kicks and claimed that, 'They shouldn't pressure me' or 'I'm just creating distance', meanwhile the match up was SAKI against your Jones, a B who should be a C+ vs an A+, and you STILL had a difficult time grappling against the person with the worst ground game in the game.

    Note that when mangala and aholbert talk to each other, they agree on things and they disagree on things, but it's never PERSONAL. It's ideas vs another idea and how to come to a compromise to bring things into the next game, and while I bet half of what John says won't be put into the game, I can say with certainty, I'm sure somebody in the higher ups has taken what he's said into consideration.


    You need to have some time off and learn how to assess things better.
    Last edited by RomeroXVII; 05-26-2019, 01:21 AM.
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    • tomitomitomi
      Pro
      • Mar 2018
      • 987

      #647
      Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

      Originally posted by Haz____
      I don't think anyone stopped taking him seriously. He proved hes an elite player, and knows what he's talking about. Abrasive or not.
      If only his argumentative skills matched his in-game skills. It's hard to take him seriously when half his posts are either him stroking his own ego at the expense of others (Seriously, who self-proclaims their own posts as roasts or 10-7s) or makes up false claims to boost his agenda ("Realistic games sell better than unrealistic", "League of Legends is a cult classic"). The lad could not even commit to proving that pressure is king because his ego could not cope with potentially losing.

      I'm not in a position to complain about someone being abrasive.
      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33106

        #648
        Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

        Originally posted by 1212headkick
        I dont want to be a gamechanger. I would never sign an nda. Ive said what I wanted. A realistic mma game. My vote would be for pryoxis or sugata instead of you. You do nothing for the community. Your attitude is appauling. You have a knack for belittling others and manipulating things to your liking. I tell the truth and you hate that because honesty is not a virtue I feel your capable of. You double talk too much for any thinking individual to honestly believe you have their interests as gamers at heart. I am all open to being proven wrong in this aspect. You support exploiters for gamechangers like zombie. Hes ruined his name because of how he fought amongst the xbox elite players. I must not suck that bad if I beat a gamechanger.
        No. You dont suck at all. You are the 36th best player on a "dead" (your words) console. All credit goes to you. You take alot of pride in that and I dont ever want you to take that away from you. That rank appears to be a very significant part of your life so credit to you.

        I respond to you because you think you are a part of the community I represent. You arent. I represent offline players who are focused on creating a realistic game. You dont play offline so I pretty much dont give a **** about your take on the game. You should focus more on convincing people like Zack, Zombie and Kenetic because they are comp players like you.

        I dont give a **** about how good you are online either. I actually find it funny how much you promote your rank. I also find it funny how you selectively dodge questions and comments. You are one of the best in the world on Xbox right? Well after you challenged me to "bet against you", I offered to bet you and you disappeared until after you fought Zombie. You even fought him on an alt account so those losses wouldnt hit your main account and so that you could potentially claim that it wasnt you if you lost the best of 5?

        Thats lame as hell for someone who is supposed to be one of the best in the world.
        Last edited by aholbert32; 05-26-2019, 01:54 AM.

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        • ZombieRommel
          EA Game Changer
          • Apr 2016
          • 659

          #649
          Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

          Originally posted by 1212headkick
          I dont want to be a gamechanger. I would never sign an nda. Ive said what I wanted. A realistic mma game. My vote would be for pryoxis or sugata instead of you. You do nothing for the community. Your attitude is appauling. You have a knack for belittling others and manipulating things to your liking. I tell the truth and you hate that because honesty is not a virtue I feel your capable of. You double talk too much for any thinking individual to honestly believe you have their interests as gamers at heart. I am all open to being proven wrong in this aspect. You support exploiters for gamechangers like zombie. Hes ruined his name because of how he fought amongst the xbox elite players. I must not suck that bad if I beat a gamechanger.
          First off, as Aholbert pointed out, you were terrified of losing to me as evidenced by your refusal to play on your main account. I asked you 2-3 times to play on your main and you refused while spaming "Invite. Inv. Inv." You got a fluke sub with Ortega during a set where we were supposed to be testing standup aggression vs defense and then DM'd me after I bodied you and made it 2-2, asking me if we could go to LHW, which I agreed to. I rocked you multiple times in the last fight despite that I never fight at LHW and you finally managed to put me away by abusing the MT clinch denies (again, nothing to do with the original intent of the entire set, which was standup). I never initated any grappling exchanges btw. YOU did. Several times, which is how you won two out of three of the fights.

          In the standup, you had nothing to offer me, aside from the busted 6-to-12 elbow into spin combo (frames of which are absurdly broken) and spin kicks to the body every time I advanced, which only proves my original point that the game's meta currently favors defense.

          I know this is a personal side beef that most people on here don't care about, so I won't belabor the point: You won the set, but I am the better player. I know you don't want to hear that but it's true. You abused grappling in a set that was supposed to shed light on the defense vs aggression debate because you were desperate to win and didn't care how. You told me you would jab me 250 times a round and come into the next round with full stamina. I maintained stamina advantage over you in every fight and had you gassed out and doing anything to survive in our last match, which is why you spammed out spin-2-win elbows and kept trying to clinch me. What happened to your deadly jabs?

          You complain that I kept nailing you with the rear body knee - that's funny. I could have sworn I've seen you on these forums constantly crying about how body shots need a buff. You run into someone (me) who knows how to use body shots, and now you're back here to cry about how body shots are overpowered. Classic.

          Last I checked I was rank 40 on Xbox so I'm sure I'll run into you there again and I'll be happy to send your bum @ss right back down the rankings where you belong.


          Last edited by ZombieRommel; 05-26-2019, 06:43 AM.
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          • bmlimo
            MVP
            • Apr 2016
            • 1123

            #650
            Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

            Originally posted by aholbert32
            Yes....we can all become better at this game.

            All it takes is:

            1) Hard work
            2) Hours of play time
            3) Hundreds of dollars to pay Kenetic for lessons. (After the lessons, you have to bash him publicly and not mention that he helped you out)

            Do all 3 things (3 is pretty important though) and you can get in the lower half of top 50 of a "dead" console.
            lol he gave money to kenetic, are foi serious? I refuse tô believe someone actually paid other person to learn the game

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            • bmlimo
              MVP
              • Apr 2016
              • 1123

              #651
              Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

              Originally posted by 1212headkick
              he didn’t teach me anything. My improvements came on my own by studying the game mechanics. Coaching is common in esports especially in games like madden etc. in my opinion your a very bitter sad person who genuinely hates this community. It’s shown by the way you carry yourself
              the problem is:
              this game isnt an e-sport

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              • bmlimo
                MVP
                • Apr 2016
                • 1123

                #652
                Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

                Originally posted by ZombieRommel
                First off, as Aholbert pointed out, you were terrified of losing to me as evidenced by your refusal to play on your main account. I asked you 2-3 times to play on your main and you refused while spaming "Invite. Inv. Inv." You got a fluke sub with Ortega during a set where we were supposed to be testing standup aggression vs defense and then DM'd me after I bodied you and made it 2-2, asking me if we could go to LHW, which I agreed to. I rocked you multiple times in the last fight despite that I never fight at LHW and you finally managed to put me away by abusing the MT clinch denies (again, nothing to do with the original intent of the entire set, which was standup). I never initated any grappling exchanges btw. YOU did. Several times, which is how you won two out of three of the fights.

                In the standup, you had nothing to offer me, aside from the busted 6-to-12 elbow into spin combo (frames of which are absurdly broken) and spin kicks to the body every time I advanced, which only proves my original point that the game's meta currently favors defense.

                I know this is a personal side beef that most people on here don't care about, so I won't belabor the point: You won the set, but I am the better player. I know you don't want to hear that but it's true. You abused grappling in a set that was supposed to shed light on the defense vs aggression debate because you were desperate to win and didn't care how. You told me you would jab me 250 times a round and come into the next round with full stamina. I maintained stamina advantage over you in every fight and had you gassed out and doing anything to survive in our last match, which is why you spammed out spin-2-win elbows and kept trying to clinch me. What happened to your deadly jabs?

                You complain that I kept nailing you with the rear body knee - that's funny. I could have sworn I've seen you on these forums constantly crying about how body shots need a buff. You run into someone (me) who knows how to use body shots, and now you're back here to cry about how body shots are overpowered. Classic.

                Last I checked I was rank 40 on Xbox so I'm sure I'll run into you there again and I'll be happy to send your bum @ss right back down the rankings where you belong.


                thats true, he won but in overall u were the better player.
                i believe for ufc 4 they should nerf this spinning instant rock elbow and the knee, you guys comp players are always looking for balance and those strikes speed advantage kills it, in fact the absurd speed generated in combos its how players use to cover their defensive holes... if you have time to see romero fighting a guy with ponzi, he is doing everything perfect, but is Just surviving and getting damaged. He won um the end but i trully believe, he was going to lose if his opponent didnt **** in the ending rounds

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                • ZombieRommel
                  EA Game Changer
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 659

                  #653
                  Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

                  Originally posted by bmlimo
                  thats true, he won but in overall u were the better player.
                  i believe for ufc 4 they should nerf this spinning instant rock elbow and the knee, you guys comp players are always looking for balance and those strikes speed advantage kills it, in fact the absurd speed generated in combos its how players use to cover their defensive holes... if you have time to see romero fighting a guy with ponzi, he is doing everything perfect, but is Just surviving and getting damaged. He won um the end but i trully believe, he was going to lose if his opponent didnt **** in the ending rounds

                  Thanks. Do you mean the rocked flying knee? Or do you mean the body knee? I personally think the body knee is balanced because you can catch it and punish with 3 options or block it and punish. The body knee into elbow is probably too fast. Rocked flying knee is also a bit silly and OP. Completely agree on the instant rock spin stuff. I wish I would have caught it sooner, but not enough people abused it, so it wasn't on our radar for most of the game's life cycle.

                  If you have a link to that fight you're referencing, please post here.
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                  • bmlimo
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 1123

                    #654
                    Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

                    Originally posted by ZombieRommel
                    Thanks. Do you mean the rocked flying knee? Or do you mean the body knee? I personally think the body knee is balanced because you can catch it and punish with 3 options or block it and punish. The body knee into elbow is probably too fast. Rocked flying knee is also a bit silly and OP. Completely agree on the instant rock spin stuff. I wish I would have caught it sooner, but not enough people abused it, so it wasn't on our radar for most of the game's life cycle.

                    If you have a link to that fight you're referencing, please post here.
                    here is the link:


                    about the knees, rocked flying knees are a bug, devs forgot to change the animation.
                    the starionary body knee problem its the speed. its faster than others single strikes and basically you have to know that the opponent is gonna throw to have a chance do defend, i undestand why u defend them you Love them, but is OP and cheesy like the spinning elbow itself...

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                    • RomeroXVII
                      MVP
                      • May 2018
                      • 1663

                      #655
                      Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

                      Originally posted by ZombieRommel
                      Thanks. Do you mean the rocked flying knee? Or do you mean the body knee? I personally think the body knee is balanced because you can catch it and punish with 3 options or block it and punish. The body knee into elbow is probably too fast. Rocked flying knee is also a bit silly and OP. Completely agree on the instant rock spin stuff. I wish I would have caught it sooner, but not enough people abused it, so it wasn't on our radar for most of the game's life cycle.

                      If you have a link to that fight you're referencing, please post here.
                      Only thing really getting damaged was my block. I got rocked twice lol, compared to body rocking my opponent 3-4* times, dropped him as well, it was E-González. The only times I've lost to him, which I haven't in like 14 fights, is by being a sitting duck and waiting too long to strike back against that annoying jab jab straight lead hook combo that he will do in elbow range, or not grappling him out of pure ego.

                      The issue was the fact that once my block got overcommitted, I could NOT move my head, and that's an issue I've been talking about with Martial, it's a bug that comes and goes and definitely how I could have lost there like bmlimo says.

                      Here's the link to the Ponzi fight:





                      Also, if you want to see a crazy fight on Ranked against the dude on his alt with an absurd amount of strikes thrown and the best comeback ever, you can watch this here too. (47:51)

                      Last edited by RomeroXVII; 05-26-2019, 11:14 AM.
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                      • bmlimo
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 1123

                        #656
                        Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

                        oh Romero, what I tryed to say is that you were doing everything right, but his pressure made the fight look hard by:

                        a) dont letting you have space to strike, making you lose rounds.

                        b) breaking your block and making your life in the ending rounds harder than it should
                        -
                        u are lighting years better than he is, but the pressure strategy its to Strong in attacking and defense as the opponent doesnt have space to strike
                        Last edited by bmlimo; 05-26-2019, 11:56 AM.

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                        • Haz____
                          Omaewa mou shindeiru
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 4023

                          #657
                          Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

                          I fully agree with 1212.

                          The way everyone is coming down on him here is pretty twisted, but not surprising at all for these boards.

                          He actually hasnt asked for anything crazy, or out of control at all.
                          PSN: Lord__Hazanko

                          Just an average player, with a passion for Martial Arts & Combat Sports

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                          • bmlimo
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 1123

                            #658
                            Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

                            Originally posted by Haz____
                            I fully agree with 1212.

                            The way everyone is coming down on him here is pretty twisted, but not surprising at all for these boards.

                            He actually hasnt asked for anything crazy, or out of control at all.
                            its not what he claim about the gameplay the problem is personal attacks

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                            • Haz____
                              Omaewa mou shindeiru
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 4023

                              #659
                              Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

                              Originally posted by bmlimo
                              its not what he claim about the gameplay the problem is personal attacks
                              Hes being ganged up on by like 5 different people, and being outright dismissed repeatedly. I'd be aggravated too.

                              I agree with 99% of what hes saying.
                              PSN: Lord__Hazanko

                              Just an average player, with a passion for Martial Arts & Combat Sports

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                              • bmlimo
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 1123

                                #660
                                Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

                                Originally posted by Haz____
                                Hes being ganged up on by like 5 different people, and being outright dismissed repeatedly. I'd be aggravated too.

                                I agree with 99% of what hes saying.
                                well the only objective here is discuss the game, when u guys turn it personal everything lose the purpose here

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