UFC 143- Condit v. Diaz - Februrary 4

[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: UFC 143- Condit v. Diaz - Februrary 4

Aw man. Nick hadn't pissed dirty for almost five years, I thought he had beating the test down to a science. That's too bad. Hopefully, Nate continues to pass them because I'd hate to see both the Diaz brothers out of action for any extended period of time.

Nick doesn't need to go to rehab, he just needs to take this suspension on the chin and determine what he wants to do with his career from here on out. He's a big boy and he knew that there were consequences if he got popped for this again. For him, getting baked was worth the risk. You can call him an idiot for that or whatever, but I can't hate on a guy for burning if that's what he chooses to do. It's not like he was lighting up fifteen minutes before the fight started. He wasn't getting any performance enhancing benefits at all.

With that being said, rules are rules, and I'd assume his suspension will probably be a year since it was six months last time. I hope I'm wrong, but either way, I hope he gets another shot in the UFC. I couldn't blame Dana for dropping him due to some of his issues, but as a fan of his fights, I want to see him come back. Who knows though, he might reflect on everything during this time off and just say **** it altogether. He's a relatively young guy and he still has a lot of time to earn money in this sport if he wants to. In the UFC that is. I guess we'll find out where all this is going soon enough.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 143- Condit v. Diaz - Februrary 4

That seems like a bit of an exaggeration. Losing Diaz loses you the GSP/Diaz buys, but really...other than that, if they both disappeared from the UFC there's no "big setback" at all, in my opinion.

Completely agree. I like the Diaz brothers but all we are missing out on is one fight. The UFC is probably a little disappointed because Diaz was turning into a decent PPV draw but they will be fine without him.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Nick's MMA career, as far as being a main draw and contender, are pretty much hanging by a thread now.

He deserves to be punished, he broke a rule however that doesn't mean said rule isn't just plain stupid. He was robbed of a beautiful victory in Japan and now this time it may cost him his career. Punish the guy but to doc him an entire victory and then suspend him and potentially end his career? Hilariously stupid. God I wished other sports would implement this "weed" rule. The NBA and NFL would cease to exist.

Sure let TRT be legal. Sure thing.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 143- Condit v. Diaz - Februrary 4

Nick's MMA career, as far as being a main draw and contender, are pretty much hanging by a thread now.

He deserves to be punished, he broke a rule however that doesn't mean said rule isn't just plain stupid. He was robbed of a beautiful victory in Japan and now this time it may cost him his career.

Sure let TRT be legal. Sure thing.

Rules are rules though. Its been a problem with this kid's whole career. People also forget that this is technically the 3rd time he has done this. He forced Strikeforce to cancel a championship fight with Jay Hieron because he refused to take a pre fight drug test.

He lacks discipline when it comes to everything outside of training and fighting.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Rules are rules though. Its been a problem with this kid's whole career. People also forget that this is technically the 3rd time he has done this. He forced Strikeforce to cancel a championship fight with Jay Hieron because he refused to take a pre fight drug test.

He lacks discipline when it comes to everything outside of training and fighting.

Agreed with everything. But looking at the overall picture in other pro sports, if this same rule were to be put into place you'd see an uproar.

So I won't judge Nick like that because you know what, the NBA and NFL wouldn't exist if they had such stupid rules in place.

[p_rushing]

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His days in the UFC are probably over unless he wants to make a life change. The State commissions have wanted to start testing fighters randomly throughout the year and not just when they are fighting. If that happens, he would probably get caught again.

The guy just doesn't really care. He has issues from his family life and childhood. I don't think he knows how to be an adult and deal with life. It would benefit both of them if they would get into some type of counseling. At the very least, they need to have a mentor to help them out.

[aholbert32]

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Agreed with everything. But looking at the overall picture in other pro sports, if this same rule were to be put into place you'd see an uproar.

So I won't judge Nick like that because you know what, the NBA and NFL wouldn't exist if they had such stupid rules in place.

In the NFL you miss 4 games if you fail 2 tests (Marijuana is included. Nick's technically failed 3, which in the NFL would be an 8 game suspension. Their rules aren't so different.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: UFC 143- Condit v. Diaz - Februrary 4

In the NFL you miss 4 games if you fail 2 tests (Marijuana is included. Nick's technically failed 3, which in the NFL would be an 8 game suspension. Their rules aren't so different.

When are the tests conducted?

[bigbob]

Re: UFC 143- Condit v. Diaz - Februrary 4

When are the tests conducted?

All that was agreed upon in the new CBA was that they were able to do random drug testings instead of giving the players a 15-hour notice. Other then that, there are only two limitations. No testing for pot on Game Day and only 6 tests in the off-season which include steroids if needed.

[ManiacMatt1782]

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When are the tests conducted?

at random.

What a complete unprofessional clown (the only adjectives i could think of without violating the tos) It's just like making weight, give up the drugs so you can pass the test. He should be cut right along with rumble, but another company would still pick him up. UFC couldnt let that happen. But no more chances and title shots for this guy. Just Feed him Kos, Fitch, Brenneman, and any other strong wrestler you can think of to ride out his contract once his suspension is up to honor the remaining fights on his contract.

[ManiacMatt1782]

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Nick's MMA career, as far as being a main draw and contender, are pretty much hanging by a thread now.

He deserves to be punished, he broke a rule however that doesn't mean said rule isn't just plain stupid. He was robbed of a beautiful victory in Japan and now this time it may cost him his career. Punish the guy but to doc him an entire victory and then suspend him and potentially end his career? Hilariously stupid. God I wished other sports would implement this "weed" rule. The NBA and NFL would cease to exist.

Sure let TRT be legal. Sure thing.

Regardless of your opinions on whether Marijuana should be legal, it isn't. This has nothing to do with performance enhancers. It is considered a drug of abuse. If Nick got popped for Cocaine or Heroine the same punishments would be coming down. Leben got a DUI and got suspended for a year. and Alcohol is legal. But he still deserved his punishment. Why do people defend this guy? It's clear he does not want to be a professional. He is flat out disrespectful, and not the im hyping a fight and stating some prefabricated bs to put more asses in seats disrespectful. It's disrespect to the fans and to the sport itself. He is in the biggest fight of his life, with a chance to be called a champion. Interim or not, he would still be a UFC Champion. He blows that opportunity because he can't lay off weed. Hell I respect the steroid users more than this guy. The steroid users are at least trying to get an edge, however dishonest it may be. They care enough to want to win and succeed. This guy doesn't care. If he loses, he'll cry, ***** and moan about it till he gets what he wants. And he almost did.

Can you imagine if Diaz won vs Condit? The ****storm would be magnified by 20. They would have to strip Diaz of the interim title. They would have to have yet another interim title fight. They would have to find 2 contenders. It would have been a nightmare for the UFC. And he doesn't care, yet they wanna reward this guy with opportunity after opportunity. It doesn't make sense. And the fact that this guy has fans defending him makes even less sense. News Flash Diaz fans. He doesn't care.

[Azamien]

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The Diaz saga would make an interesting court case to test the limits of the Full Faith and Credit Clause. I'm pretty sure Nick has a medical marijuana card, and the NSAC is a government agency, I think. Typically prescribed medication, if cleared by the AC ahead of time, can be used, even if it contains a banned substance (there are a number of ailments and injuries that steroids are prescribed to treat, for instance).

In the eyes of California law, Diaz has a prescription for marijuana.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 143- Condit v. Diaz - Februrary 4

The Diaz saga would make an interesting court case to test the limits of the Full Faith and Credit Clause. I'm pretty sure Nick has a medical marijuana card, and the NSAC is a government agency, I think. Typically prescribed medication, if cleared by the AC ahead of time, can be used, even if it contains a banned substance (there are a number of ailments and injuries that steroids are prescribed to treat, for instance).

In the eyes of California law, Diaz has a prescription for marijuana.

Thats one of the problem. It wasn't cleared before hand. He didn't go to NSAC and inform him that he had a card and a prescription. Now NSAC could've still denied him a license but he would've had a much stronger argument if he plans to file suit.

[ManiacMatt1782]

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US law still negates state law, and if a fed in California wanted to break your stones over weed, they could. If you believe they can't, I've got some nice solar powered flashlights I'd like to sell you.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Who's defending this guy? I think it's more clear that some of you just flat out dislike him, which is perfectly OK by me.

I already said he deserves to be punished. However, the weed rule is beyond ridiculous.

The test cannot even detect when the user took it. Smh

Once again, TRT: OK. Medical weed: Suspension. Doesn't sit right with me, but if it does with others, cool.