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  • reyes the roof
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2009
    • 11526

    #91
    Re: Brand Split 2.0

    Originally posted by ubernoob
    If it's not different creative teams brand split won't matter.
    I've heard that the head writer from NXT was recently promoted to head writer on Smackdown, so that at least gives me a bit of hope that Smackdown will have a different feel from Raw

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    • DJ
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2003
      • 17756

      #92
      Re: Brand Split 2.0

      Originally posted by ubernoob
      If it's not different creative teams brand split won't matter.
      So true. There were rumblings when SD moved back to USA that it was going to evolve into a WWE/NXT hybrid show,and with the move mentioned above and the brand split, it looks like that may be the case.

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      • SPTO
        binging
        • Feb 2003
        • 68046

        #93
        Re: Brand Split 2.0

        Originally posted by reyes the roof
        I've heard that the head writer from NXT was recently promoted to head writer on Smackdown, so that at least gives me a bit of hope that Smackdown will have a different feel from Raw
        This would be awesome if it's true. Every time i've seen NXT it really feels like a modernized take on some of the older principles of the wrestling business. Having a 2 hour show could allow them to expand on some of that and really make it feel like a modern take on the wrestling production/booking style of the late '80s/early '90s. I always get the sense that NXT is a less rednecky reinterpretation of the Southern Style with a dash of indies and Japan style thrown in.
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        • Majingir
          Moderator
          • Apr 2005
          • 47585

          #94
          Re: Brand Split 2.0

          After seeing Raw, really does make me think they'll have some sort of special thing regarding tag teams at the draft. They only acknowledged a brand extension when talking about tag teams.

          Could see 1 of 2 options:
          1.They enforce a rule where tag teams are a package deal.
          2.They announce that all tag teams will be on one brand(which would kinda kill tag team wrestling on the other brand though)


          lol, it's reminding me of the NHL expansion draft in a way. People all speculating on the rules of what the draft could hold, and people getting teased with possible draft rules, but having to wait so long to really find out about the draft and if it's even happening.

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          • Streets
            Supreme
            • Aug 2004
            • 5787

            #95
            Re: Brand Split 2.0

            I don't understand people saying the tag division isn't strong. I feel the tag division and the Women's division are stronger than they've been in a very long time.

            New Day
            Usos
            Dudleys
            Enzo and Cass
            Vaudevillians
            Wyatts
            The Club
            Ascension
            Golden Truth
            Breezango
            Social Outcasts

            I think many of these teams could be champs, just as the League of Nations could have been, but I think WWE is keeping the titles on New Day until they break the record and ultimately the league had to break up when they couldn't string together any legit victories.

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            • redsox4evur
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2013
              • 18169

              #96
              Re: Brand Split 2.0



              Some of NXT Stars most likely getting a call up in the brand split. My guesses are Nakamura, Balor, Bayley, Asuka.


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              • Mercury112491
                All Star
                • Mar 2007
                • 7426

                #97
                Re: Brand Split 2.0

                If Balors "debut" is through the draft, that's dumb.


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                • Majingir
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 47585

                  #98
                  Re: Brand Split 2.0

                  Apparently WWE might be trying to have 2 PPVs a month post-brand split.

                  In the OT thread people were already talking about WWEs overkill on this stuff, I think 2 PPVs a month would more than do that. 5+ hours of WWE stuff a week is way too much(even if we can DVR/skip whatever we want). I don't care how entertaining a show may or may not be, 5 hours of it a week is beyond overkill.

                  I've said it in the past and I'll say it again, WWE shows are turning into MLB game level of importance. Is there really major importance in MLB game #55 in a season? Or Game #91? Game #106? That's what WWE feels like now. You miss a few weeks worth of things,and you really don't miss much at all.

                  So many hours of stuff a week that isn't needed at all. 2HR Raw and 2HR Smackdown is all they need with 1 PPV a month. Can't imagine what the 5 hours of programming on a brand extension,combined with multiple 3 hour PPVs a month would do to the already declined quality.

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                  • cima
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 13478

                    #99
                    Re: Brand Split 2.0

                    This is extreme overkill.

                    RAW PPV: 3 hours x 1/month = 3 hours
                    SD PPV: 3 Hours x 1/month = 3 hours
                    RAW: 3 hours x 4/month = 12 hours
                    SD: 2 hours x 4/month = 8 hours
                    ME: 1 hour x 4/month = 4 hours
                    Superstars: 1 hour x 4/month = 4 hours

                    Throw in NXT and you get another 4 hours for a grand total of 38 hours per month of WWE content.

                    Yeah, no thanks. Less = more.

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                    • IndianBird
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 2909

                      #100
                      Re: Brand Split 2.0

                      If all shows were two hours including non-big 4 PPV we'd be in business.


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                      • Majingir
                        Moderator
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 47585

                        #101
                        Re: Brand Split 2.0

                        Originally posted by cima
                        This is extreme overkill.

                        RAW PPV: 3 hours x 1/month = 3 hours
                        SD PPV: 3 Hours x 1/month = 3 hours
                        RAW: 3 hours x 4/month = 12 hours
                        SD: 2 hours x 4/month = 8 hours
                        ME: 1 hour x 4/month = 4 hours
                        Superstars: 1 hour x 4/month = 4 hours

                        Throw in NXT and you get another 4 hours for a grand total of 38 hours per month of WWE content.

                        Yeah, no thanks. Less = more.
                        They absolutely need to get rid of Main Event/Superstars. Those shows are partially killing the crowd. Bad enough crowds got to sit through 3 hour Raws, but then another hour or so beforehand with a filler show? Would even a single person be like "WWE removed Superstars & Main Event from the network! I'm unsubscribing!".

                        I'd just go with 2hr Raws, 2hr Smackdowns, 1hr NXT. 1PPV a month which is the usual 3 hour length. 23 hours instead of 38. DVR RAW/SD and the total time is more like 18 or so hours without commercials(compared to what they have right now which is around 30 hours without commercials)
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                        • DJ
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 17756

                          #102
                          Re: Brand Split 2.0

                          Originally posted by cima
                          This is extreme overkill.

                          RAW PPV: 3 hours x 1/month = 3 hours
                          SD PPV: 3 Hours x 1/month = 3 hours
                          RAW: 3 hours x 4/month = 12 hours
                          SD: 2 hours x 4/month = 8 hours
                          ME: 1 hour x 4/month = 4 hours
                          Superstars: 1 hour x 4/month = 4 hours

                          Throw in NXT and you get another 4 hours for a grand total of 38 hours per month of WWE content.

                          Yeah, no thanks. Less = more.
                          Did WWE all of a sudden become can't miss television? I don't understand the point of oversaturating your market when you're struggling to avoid record low ratings.

                          The show-specific specials could drive more numbers to the Network, but could also have more people tune out the TV shows. You could just watch the specials and the pre-match hype videos will catch you up on the feuds going on and why Superstar A vs. Superstar B is happening.
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                          • cima
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 13478

                            #103
                            Re: Brand Split 2.0

                            Originally posted by Majingir
                            They absolutely need to get rid of Main Event/Superstars. Those shows are partially killing the crowd. Bad enough crowds got to sit through 3 hour Raws, but then another hour or so beforehand with a filler show? Would even a single person be like "WWE removed Superstars & Main Event from the network! I'm unsubscribing!".

                            I'd just go with 2hr Raws, 2hr Smackdowns, 1hr NXT. 1PPV a month which is the usual 3 hour length. 23 hours instead of 38. DVR RAW/SD and the total time is more like 18 or so hours without commercials(compared to what they have right now which is around 30 hours without commercials)
                            Originally posted by DJ
                            Did WWE all of a sudden become can't miss television? I don't understand the point of oversaturating your market when you're struggling to avoid record low ratings.

                            The show-specific specials could drive more numbers to the Network, but could also have more people tune out the TV shows. You could just watch the specials and the pre-match hype videos will catch you up on the feuds going on and why Superstar A vs. Superstar B is happening.
                            Agreed with everything said above. I think the purpose of ME/Superstars is so lesser talents are still technically on TV. Almost seems like if they're pretty much exclusives to those shows (I have no idea who's on them cause I dont watch) they might as well be on NXT, but then that negatively impacts their show so...yeah I don't know. All I know is I'll probably start watching again when the NBA is over but I have no desire to watch even half of the 38 hours they're gonna be putting out.

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                            • SmashMan
                              All Star
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 9733

                              #104
                              Re: Brand Split 2.0

                              Originally posted by Majingir
                              They absolutely need to get rid of Main Event/Superstars. Those shows are partially killing the crowd. Bad enough crowds got to sit through 3 hour Raws, but then another hour or so beforehand with a filler show? Would even a single person be like "WWE removed Superstars & Main Event from the network! I'm unsubscribing!".

                              I'd just go with 2hr Raws, 2hr Smackdowns, 1hr NXT. 1PPV a month which is the usual 3 hour length. 23 hours instead of 38. DVR RAW/SD and the total time is more like 18 or so hours without commercials(compared to what they have right now which is around 30 hours without commercials)
                              I doubt Main Event and Superstars can be eliminated - they probably have international tv deals that they have to honor with new shows.

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                              • reyes the roof
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 11526

                                #105
                                Re: Brand Split 2.0

                                Depending on how the rosters shake out, I could see myself just picking one show to follow and just tuning in to the ppv of the other show

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