Coaching Career of Bob Knight (No, not THAT Bob Knight) - take #2 - ps2

[OSUPiper]

Re: Coaching Career of Bob Knight (No, not THAT Bob Knight) - take #2 - ps2

Expectations are going to be high considering only one player is leaving the team due to graduation, although that player is Reggie Williams.

I wonder if VMI will be getting any invitations to the invitational tournaments since we got to the sweet sixteen. I also wonder if getting to the sweet sixteen will have an effect with recruiting. There weren't many HS seniors who wanted to come to VMI (50%+ interest) who also fit my priorities. (Why my "scouts" contacted a couple of players with an intelligence grade of D, I'll never know.)

Yeah, sometimes I wonder about scouting. Either my coaches know something I really don't know, or they are smarter than me and realize which players I have a chance at, or they sometimes simply ignore my orders.

As for tourneys, my experience is that they do not rotate teams. As ORU I could go to the preseason NIT every year if I wanted. I think it is totally reasonable with a strong finish and returning nearly everyone that you would get an invite, so I say pick a tourney you want to attend and add it to your schedule. I see no problem in letting the game be fun.

[doncoryell]

Final 2007-08 Stats

                                     2007-08 VMI Basketball
                              Combined Team Statistics (as of Mar. 27,2008)
                                         All Games

RECORD:        OVERALL  HOME    AWAY   NEUTRAL
ALL GAMES       17-14    9-4     5-7     3-3
CONFERENCE      10-4     5-2     5-2     0-0
NON-CONFERENCE   7-10    4-2     0-5     3-3



DATE           OPPONENT               W/L   SCORE    HIGH SCORER          HIGH REBOUNDER
!11/09/07   vs Northern Colorado       L    58-62    (16)Holmes,Chavis    (14)Sargent,Stephen
&11/13/07   vs UL Monroe               W    68-63    (25)Holmes,Chavis    (11)Brownfield,Quinn
                                                                          (11)Sargent,Stephen
&11/14/07   vs Michigan State          L    58-74    (14)Williams,Reggie  ( 8)Sargent,Stephen
                                                                          ( 8)Williams,Reggie
11/21/07       JAMES MADISON           L    61-85    (21)Holmes,Chavis    ( 9)Brownfield,Quinn
                                                                          ( 9)Williams,Reggie
11/25/07    at Ohio State              L    64-79    (14)Williams,Reggie  ( 8)Brownfield,Quinn
12/01/07       ARMY                    W    69-52    (25)Williams,Reggie  (11)Mosley,Travis
                                                                          (11)Sargent,Stephen
12/04/07    at South Carolina State    Lot  83-91    (27)Williams,Reggie  (18)Mosley,Travis
12/08/07       HOWARD                  L    65-75    (24)Williams,Reggie  (10)Mosley,Travis
12/20/07    at William & Mary          Lot  71-74    (30)Williams,Reggie  (16)Sargent,Stephen
12/30/07    at Richmond                L    54-67    (12)Williams,Reggie  ( 8)Brownfield,Quinn
01/02/08    at Mercer                  L    69-77    (18)Holmes,Travis    ( 8)Williams,Reggie
01/12/08    at Charleston Southern     W    67-63    (16)Holmes,Chavis    (14)Sargent,Stephen
01/14/08    at Coastal Carolina        L    50-60    (13)Williams,Reggie  ( 9)Brownfield,Quinn
01/19/08       UNC ASHEVILLE           W    79-52    (18)Holmes,Chavis    ( 6)Josey,Carl
                                                                          ( 6)Williams,Reggie
01/23/08    at Winthrop                W    68-61    (16)Williams,Reggie  (10)Sargent,Stephen
01/28/08       LIBERTY                 W    70-62    (24)Williams,Reggie  ( 9)Brownfield,Quinn
02/03/08    at High Point              W    79-60    (20)Williams,Reggie  ( 8)Sargent,Stephen
02/05/08       RADFORD                 W    85-60    (30)Williams,Reggie  (10)Brownfield,Quinn
02/09/08       COASTAL CAROLINA        W    66-64    (27)Williams,Reggie  (10)Brownfield,Quinn
02/11/08       CHARLESTON SOUTHERN     W    79-72    (24)Holmes,Chavis    (11)Brownfield,Quinn
02/16/08    at UNC Asheville           L    78-88    (18)Holmes,Chavis    ( 6)Sargent,Stephen
02/20/08       WINTHROP                L    59-79    (14)Holmes,Travis    ( 9)Brownfield,Quinn
02/23/08    at Radford                 W    87-72    (17)Kenon,Austin     ( 9)Brownfield,Quinn
02/26/08    at Liberty                 W    63-55    (13)Holmes,Chavis    (13)Sargent,Stephen
03/01/08       HIGH POINT              L    59-78    (14)Holmes,Travis    ( 9)Brownfield,Quinn
#03/04/08      Radford                 W    88-86    (28)Williams,Reggie  (14)Brownfield,Quinn
#03/06/08      Coastal Carolina        W    69-57    (25)Williams,Reggie  ( 9)Brownfield,Quinn
#03/08/08      High Point              W    75-74    (29)Holmes,Chavis    ( 8)Sargent,Stephen
$03/20/08      West Virginia           W    82-69    (29)Williams,Reggie  (12)Brownfield,Quinn
$03/22/08      Butler                  W    79-65    (27)Williams,Reggie  ( 7)Mosley,Travis
$03/27/08      Colorado                L    71-86    (22)Holmes,Chavis    ( 7)Brownfield,Quinn

! Air Force Classic
& College Basketball Experience Classic
# Big South Tournament
$ NCAA Tournament




## Summary             GP   PT/G  R/G  A/G  B/G   MIN TO/G  F/G   FG%   3P%   FT%
55 WILLIAMS,Reggie     31   18.7  4.9  1.8  0/3  27.9  1.6  1.1  .429  .371  .734
03 HOLMES,Chavis       31   14.6  1.7  2.1  0.0  28.7  2.0  1.3  .426  .417  .793
27 HOLMES,Travis       31    7.3  1.8  0.5  0.2  15.5  0.7  0.6  .373  .361  .824
11 BROWNFIELD,Quinn    31    5.5  7.3  1.5  0.3  24.7  1.6  1.6  .419  .454  .724
50 SARGENT,Stephen     31    5.0  7.4  0.6  1.9  23.0  0.4  1.6  .430  .333  .700
01 LONON,Adam          31    4.8  1.5  4.2  0.0  29.5  2.6  1.1  .379  .100  .480
10 KENON,Austin        30    4.5  1.0  0.6  0.0  10/1  0.7  0.1  .452  .481  .764
21 MOSLEY,Travis       31    2.9  4.3  0.7  0.3  14.1  0.4  0.6  .345  .250  .565
22 HUNTER,Christian    31    2.5  1.1  1.1  0.0   9.4  0.8  0.2  .491  .500  .857
32 JOSEY,Carl          29    2.0  1.3  0.3  0.0   6.9  0.3  0.5  .328  .344  .778
34 HOUSTON,Hunter      30    2.0  1.4  0.5  0.1   8.3  0.6  0.3  .435  .357  .333
02 BELL,Willie         28    0.6  0.6  0.1  0.0   5.5  0.3  0.1  .333  .000  .363
   Totals              31   70.1 34.0 13.9  3.2       12.0  9.0  .412  .383  .693
   Opponents           31   69.7 39.1 13.0  2.7       14.6  7.7  .429  .340  .729


                                                                   REBOUNDS
## Detail              GP   MIN   FG-FGA  3FG-FGA   FT-FTA  PTS  OFF  DEF  TOT  AST   TO  BLK   PF
55 WILLIAMS,Reggie     31   865  233-542   55-148   58-79   579   40  111  151   57    9   49   33
03 HOLMES,Chavis       31   890  162-380   79-189   50-63   453   16   38   54   64    2   62   40
27 HOLMES,Travis       31   479   84-225   26-72    33-40   227   13   46   56   15    7   22   18
11 BROWNFIELD,Quinn    31   767   73-174    5-11    21-29   172   45  180  225   45   10   50   49
50 SARGENT,Stephen     31   714   74-172    1-3      7-10   156   66  163  229   19   58   13   51
01 LONON,Adam          31   915   60-158    3-30    25-52   148   19   27   46  131    0   81   34
10 KENON,Austin        30   304   48-106   26-54    13-17   135    7   22   29   17    0   20    3
21 MOSLEY,Travis       31   437   38-110    1-4     13-23    90   36   98  134   21    8   11   18
22 HUNTER,Christian    31   290   29-59    12-24     6-7     76    3   30   33   33    1   25    5
32 JOSEY,Carl          29   201   21-64    10-29     7-9     59    6   33   39    9    0   10   15
34 HOUSTON,Hunter      30   248   27-62     5-14     1-3     60    9   34   43   16    3   19    9
02 BELL,Willie         28   153    7-21     0-3      4-11    18    6   10   16    3    2    8    3
Totals                 31        856-2073 223-581  238-343 2173  266  789 1055  430  100  371  278
Opponents              31        862-2008 141-414  297-407 2162  306  907 1213  404   85  453  238



Team Statistics
                               VMI          OPP
SCORING                       2173          2162
  Points per game             70.1          69.7
  Scoring margin              +0.4          --
FIELD GOALS-ATT           856-2073          862-2008
  Field goal pct              .412          .429
3 POINT FG-ATT             223-581          141-414
  3-point FG pct              .383          .340
  3-point FG made per game     7.2          4.5
FREE THROWS-ATT            238-343          297-407
  Free throw pct              .693          .729
REBOUNDS                      1055          1213
  Rebounds per game           34.0          39.1
  Rebounding margin           -5.1          --
ASSISTS                        430          404
  Assists per game            13.9          13.0
TURNOVERS                      371          453
  Turnovers per game          12.0          14.6
  Turnover margin             +2.6          --
  Assist/turnover ratio        1.2          0.9
BLOCKS                         100          85
  Blocks per game              3.2          2.7



SCORE BY PERIODS:     1st   2nd   OT   Total
VMI                  1040  1120   13    2173
Opponents            1048  1090   24    2162

[doncoryell]

Recruiting

Recruiting didn't go as planned. With only two scholorships and high school seniors ducking our military school, the two players that were offered declined and opted to go to Ball State and Appalachian State instead.

We did, however, have five walk ons with only one spot available on the bench. The others will have to live with being members of our reserve squad.

Immanuel Forte - Center
hgt/wgt: 6'10" - 235 lbs
Hometown: San Bernadino, CA
ovr: F, oawr: D, dawr: D, close: D, med: D, 3pt: F, ft: C-, lay: D, dunk: C-, hand: C-, pass: C-, lowo: C-, lowd: C-, def: D, blk: C-, stl: C-, oreb: C-, dreb: C-, spd: D, stam: C-, dur: B-, clt: C-, cons: F, foul: C-, conf: 61%, pot: C-

Rudolph Borders - Point Guard
hgt/wgt: 6'0" - 184 lbs
Hometown: Phoenix, AZ
ovr: F, oawr: D, dawr: D, close: C+, med: C-, 3pt: D, ft: C-, lay: D, dunk: F, hand: D, pass: C, lowo: C-, lowd: C-, def: C-, blk: C+, stl: C-, oreb: C, dreb: C-, spd: D, stam: F, dur: C, clt: D, cons: F, foul: C, conf: 50%, pot: C-

Hatila Rodriguez - Small Forward
hgt/wgt: 6'7" - 224 lbs
Hometown: Somewhere in Brazil
ovr: F, oawr: D, dawr: F, close: D, med: D, 3pt: D, ft: D, lay: C-, dunk: D, hand: D, pass: D, lowo: C-, lowd: D, def: D, blk: C-, stl: C-, oreb: C-, dreb: C-, spd: C-, stam: D, dur: C-, clt: D, cons: F, foul: D, conf: 42%, pot: D

Jasper Sharp - Shooting Guard
hgt/wgt: 6'5" - 219
Hometown: Worcester, MA
ovr: F, oawr: D, dawr: D, close: C-, med: D, 3pt: D, ft: D, lay: F, dunk: C, hand: F, pass: C-, lowo: C-, lowd: C-, def: C-, blk: C+, stl: C-, oreb: C, dreb: C-, spd: C-, stam: F, dur: C-, clt: F, cons: F, foul: D, conf: 42%, pot: D

Guillermo Bethel - Small Forward
hgt/wgt: 6'6" - 213
Hometown: Indianapolis, IN
ovr: F, oawr: F, dawr: F, close: D, med: D, 3pt: D, ft: D, lay: D, dunk: D, hand: D, pass: D, lowo: C-, lowd: D, def: D, blk: C, stl: C-, oreb: C-, dreb: C-, spd: C-, stam: D, dur: C+, clt: F, cons: F, foul: D, conf: 41%, pot: C-


Out of these five shmucks, I am leaning towards Borders as being the 12th man on the bench. Although Forte's overall is higher (53 to 51), Borders looks to be a better shooter and defender than Forte.

[doncoryell]

Meet the Team

VMI Keydets Roster

          2008-2009 Virginia Military Institute Keydets

NUM  PLAYER               POS      HT    WT   CLASS  OVR
--------------------------------------------------------
 1  Adam Lonon              G   5-11    175    JR     59
 2  Willie Bell             F   6-5     205    SR     54
 3  Chavis Holmes           G   6-4     195    SR     72
 8  Rudolph Borders         G   6-0     184    FR     51
10  Austin Kenon            G   5-11    180    SO     62
11  Quinn Brownfield        F   6-7     195    SO     61
21  Travis Mosley           F   6-7     195    SO     60
22  Christian Hunter        G   6-2     180    SO     60
23  Travis Holmes           G   6-4     195    SR     71
24  Jasper Sharp            G   6-5     219    FR     48
30  Hatila Rodriguez        F   6-7     224    FR     48
32  Carl Josey              G   6-4     195    JR     53
33  Guillermo Bethel        F   6-6     213    FR     45
34  Hunter Houston          F   6-6     195    SO     60
50  Stephen Sargent         C   7-0     245    SO     61
52  Immanuel Forte          C   6-10    235    FR     53

As always, the military does not redshirt.


VMI's Category Ratings:

Offense: 75
Defense: 67
Shooting: 77
Rebounding: 63
Overall: 70

Green indicates improvement based on beginning of previous season
Red indicates decline based on beginning of previous season

[doncoryell]

Re: Coaching Career of Bob Knight (No, not THAT Bob Knight) - take #2 - ps2

VMI Keydets Schedule

          2008-2009 Basketball Schedule

DATE    OPPONENT (OVR)
----------------------
2008
Nov 14  Wisconsin-Green Bay (75) -- Paradise Jam Tournament
    23  Missouri State (73)
    26  @ Rice (72)
    29  @ Cincinnati (82)
Dec  2  Kent State (76)
    11  @ Vanderbilt (79)
    16  @ Quinnipiac (70)
    19  James Madison (75)
    27  @ Maryland (82)

2009
Jan  3  @ Southern Methodist (75)
    10  @ UNC Asheville (68)
    13  Charleston Southern (69)
    17  @ High Point (69)
    21  Liberty (69)
    24  Coastal Carolina (72)
    28  @ Radford (68)
    31  @ Winthrop (70)
Feb  4  @ Coastal Carolina (72)
     7  UNC Asheville (68)
    10  @ Charleston Southern (69)
    14  High Point (69)
    18  @ Liberty (69)
    24  Radford (68)
    28  Winthrop (70)

(OVR) is preseason rating

[doncoryell]

Re: Coaching Career of Bob Knight (No, not THAT Bob Knight) - take #2 - ps2

[B]PRESEASON MEDIA POLL
RK[/B]
01  Michigan State (87)
[color=orange]02  Connecticut (88)[/color]
03  Tennessee (87)
04  North Carolina (88)
05  Memphis (88)
[color=orange]06  Texas (86)[/color]
07  Stanford (87)
08  Providence (87)
09  Arizona (86)
10  UCLA (85)
11  Indiana (86)
[color=orange]12  Villanova (86)[/color]
13  Georgetown (85)
[color=orange]14  Duke (86)[/color]
15  Louisville (86)
16  Gonzaga (84)
17  Kansas (84)
18  Baylor (84)
[color=orange]19  Kentucky (84)[/color]
20  Alabama (83)
21  Notre Dame (83)
22  Washington (85)
23  San Diego State (82)
24  Texas A&M (83)
25  Georgia (84)



[color=orange][B]AROUND THE NCAA[/B]

Connecticut (88)
Duke (86)
Illinois (85)
Kentucky (84)
Michigan (80)
Oklahoma State (84)
Tennessee-Martin (70)
Texas (86)
Texas Southern (68)
Villanova (86)
West Virginia (81)
Winston-Salem State (68)[/color]



[b][u]Big South[/u][/b]
Coastal Carolina (72)
Winthrop (70)
[color=red]VMI (70)[/color]
Liberty (69)
Charleston Southern (69)
High Point (69)
UNC Asheville (68)
Radford (68)

[superjames1992]

Re: Coaching Career of Bob Knight (No, not THAT Bob Knight) - take #2 - ps2

Looks like you didn't exactly get what you wanted in the recruiting period. Good luck in the Paradise Jam Tournament!

By the way, are you thinking about moving on to greener pastures if you have another good season?

[doncoryell]

Re: Coaching Career of Bob Knight (No, not THAT Bob Knight) - take #2 - ps2

Looks like you didn't exactly get what you wanted in the recruiting period. Good luck in the Paradise Jam Tournament!

By the way, are you thinking about moving on to greener pastures if you have another good season?

Well, I don't want to start spreading any rumors, but, if a higher level school comes calling, I'll think about it. (meaning yes if mid-major, major or power levels desire my services)

BTW, the WVU Mountaineers and the OSU Cowboys are also down here on the island of St.Thomas in the U.S. Virgin Islands. (Although in the game, however, we are playing in Tampa, Florida)

[OSUPiper]

Re: Coaching Career of Bob Knight (No, not THAT Bob Knight) - take #2 - ps2

Beat those stinking Cowboys' asses!

[doncoryell]

Re: Coaching Career of Bob Knight (No, not THAT Bob Knight) - take #2 - ps2

Lexington, VA - Midnight madness has arrived on the campus of Virginia Military Institute in a huge way as 45% of the stands are filled, double from last year, in anticipation of the upcoming season for the Keydets. A surprise trip to the NCAA sweet sixteen can have that effect on others and expectations are high on campus in hopes of another trip to the "Big Dance".

Four of the five starters from last season have returned as well as everyone that was on the bench last season, including both assistant coaches. All four will be starting again and will be joined by senior forward Travis Holmes as he is promoted from last season's sixth man role to that of starting small forward.

Starters
PG - Adam Lonon, Jr
SG - Chavis Holmes, Sr
SF - Travis Holmes, Sr
PF - Quinn Brownfield, So
C - Stephen Sargent, So

Bench
guards:
Rudolph Borders, Fr
Christian Hunter, So
Carl Josey, Jr
Austin Kenon, So

forwards/centers:
Willie Bell, Sr
Hunter Houston, So
Travis Mosley, So

Reserves
Guillermo Bethel, Fr - forward
Immanuel Forte, Fr - center
Hatila Rodriguez, Fr - forward
Jasper Sharp, Fr - guard

[doncoryell]

Re: Coaching Career of Bob Knight (No, not THAT Bob Knight) - take #2 - ps2

11/3/08

TOP 25

No games scheduled

OTHERS

Tennessee-Martin 68, East Carolina 53

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11/4/08

TOP 25

No games scheduled

OTHERS

Tennessee-Martin 80, Duquesne 79

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11/5/08

TOP 25

No games scheduled

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11/6/08

TOP 25

No games scheduled

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11/7/08

TOP 25

South Dakota State 78, #3 Tennessee 65
#5 Memphis 65, Austin Peay 59
#9 Arizona 63, Idaho State 51
Northern Arizona 90, #10 UCLA 67
#15 Louisville 60, Northern Iowa 51
#17 Kansas 83, UL Lafayette 78
#19 Kentucky 64, Dayton 32
#25 Georgia 68, Davidson 65

Big South

UNC Asheville 87, Massachusetts 85
Brigham Young 95, Charleston Southern 58
Liberty 88, Northern Colorado 67
Michigan 82, High Point 63
Chattanooga 89, Winthrop 59

OTHERS

Illinois 51, UNC Wilmington 44
Winston-Salem State 80, St.Bonaventure 76

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11/8/08

TOP 25

Hartford 66, #4 North Carolina 62
#13 Georgetown 71, Norfolk State 29
#18 Baylor 70, UC Davis 66
#20 Alabama 78, Tennessee State 65
#21 Notre Dame 85, IPFW 64
#23 San Diego State 70, Pacific 58

Big South

Idaho 62, Charleston Southern 61
UNLV 74, Liberty 62

OTHERS

Tulane 77, Texas Southern 62

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11/9/08

TOP 25

#3 Tennessee 79, SE Missouri 74
#11 Indiana 68, William & Mary 63
#13 Georgetown 58, Temple 42
#14 Duke 84, Boston University 59
#16 Gonzaga 82, Weber State 51
#17 Kansas 66, Oakland 49

Big South

Charleston Southern 71, San Francisco 53
Ball State 63, High Point 43

OTHERS

Dartmouth 63, Michigan 47
Oklahoma State 77, Southern 66

[doncoryell]

Re: Coaching Career of Bob Knight (No, not THAT Bob Knight) - take #2 - ps2

11/10/08

TOP 25

#1 Michigan State 85, Wisconsin-Milwaukee 49
Florida Atlantic 86, #4 North Carolina 78
#6 Texas 70, Central Arkansas 54
#10 UCLA 77, Detroit 45
#12 Villanova 72, Niagra 41
#21 Notre Dame 70, UT-Pan American 45

Big South

Southern Miss 74, Radford 53
Montana State 66, Charleston Southern 56

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11/11/08

TOP 25

#1 Michigan State 75, Cornell 45
#7 Stanford 76, Portland State 43
#9 Arizona 78, San Jose State 64
#10 UCLA 70, Montana State 51
#12 Villanova 69, Xavier 50
#16 Gonzaga 73, Louisiana Tech 51
#20 Alabama 86, Western Michigan 62
#22 Washington 85, Savannah State 50
Southern 83, #23 San Diego State 55

Big South

Coastal Carolina 52, Kennesaw State 51
UL Lafayette 72, Liberty 33
Texas Christian 84, UNC Asheville 76

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11/12/08

TOP 25

#14 Duke 65, Winston-Salem State 57
#18 Baylor 74, Sam Houston State 41
Texas Christian 68, #22 Washington 49
#23 San Diego State 68, Montana 61

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11/13/08

TOP 25

#5 Memphis 66, George Mason 45
#8 Providence 75, Dayton 64
#13 Georgetown 75, Arkansas-Pine Bluff 53
#25 Georgia 84, Appalachian State 58

OTHERS

Illinois 61, Arizona State 37
DePaul 66, Michigan 59
Alabama State 67, Tennessee-Martin 66

[doncoryell]

11/14/08 -- Wisconsin-Green Bay (0-1) vs. VMI (0-0) -- Paradise Jam Tournament

Phoenix Rises Over Keydets' Late Surge, 69-62

St.Thomas Island
U.S. Virgin Islands


First Half
Chavis Holmes and Schachtner trade two free throws each and after Schachtner makes two more, Mosley banks in a short turnaround jumper. Page and Schachter bury hooks then Page lays in a rebound to give Wisconsin-Green Bay a six point lead, 10-4, with under 15:00 remaining. Schachtner sinks a turnaround jumper and after Kenon makes two free throws, Schachtner hits another jumper. Segura banks in a couple of layups then after Brownfield drains a runner, Barkley puts in a layup to give the Phoenix a 12-point lead, 20-8, halfway through the first half. Fletcher drops in a layup and Evans makes 1 of 2 free throws then after Brownfield puts in a layup on a fast break, Tillema cans two free throws. Travis Holmes banks in a turnaround jumper and Lonon drains 1 of 2 free throws and after Schachtner swishes a couple of hooks, Chavis Holmes drills two free throws to pull VMI to within 14, 29-15, with just under 5:00 to go. Travis Holmes puts in a layup then after Schachtner nails a turnaround jumper, Chavis Holmes tips in a rebound to pull the Keydets to within 12 at the half. Wisconsin-Green Bay's Schachtner leads all scorers with 16 points and Chavis Holmes leads VMI with 6.

Second Half
Chavis Holmes banks in a jumper then after Evans makes two free throws and Perine drains 1 of 2 free throws, Travis Holmes banks in a layup. Page sinks a hook and after Perine nails a 3pter, Travis Holmes puts in a layup. Brownfield and Schachtner trade jumpers and after Fletcher cans 1 of 2 free throws, Kenon buries a 3pter to pull VMI to within 12, 42-30, with just under 15:00 remaining. Schachtner and Chavis Holmes trade 3pters and after Chavis Holmes buries a jumper, Kenon and Schachtner trade layups. Kenon banks in a layup on a fast break then Evans drops in a layup to give Wisconsin-Green Bay a ten point lead, 49-39, midway through the second half. Tillema makes two free throws and after Travis Holmes and Jackson trade jumpers, Evans and Travis Holmes trade layups. Hunter and Travis Holmes each bank in layups then after Schachtner hits a turnaround jumper, Chavis Holmes nails a 3pter to pull the Keydets to within five, 57-52, with 5:00 to go. Fletcher makes two free throws and Page slams in a dunk and after Travis Holmes hits a 3pter, Schachtner and Lonon trade jumpers. Page and Travis Holmes trade layups then VMI starts fouling. Fletcher drains two free throws then after Houston nails a 3pter, Fletcher drills two more free throws to ice the game.

"The refs took this game from us right from the start." Coach Knight stated after the game. "They took our main force in the middle from us early and often plus were very inconsistent with their foul calling."

                      1   2   F
     Wisc-Green Bay  31  38  69
     VMI             19  43  62                  



[b]Wisconsin-Green Bay Phoenix
Starters          min fgm-a  ftm-a off reb ast pf pts[/b]
R.Fletcher         35   1-4    7-8   0   0   2  0   9
B.Perine           20   1-2    1-2   0   0   1  3   4
T.Evans            35   2-3    3-4   1   5   2  1   7
M.Schachtner       33  11-21   4-4   0   5   0  0  27
E.Page             28   5-10   0-2   2  14   3  1  10
[b]Bench             min fgm-a  ftm-a off reb ast pf pts[/b]
T.Cotton           10   0-0    0-0   0   1   0  0   0
R.Tillema           8   0-0    4-4   1   3   1  1   4
E.Segura            6   2-5    0-0   1   2   0  0   4
J.Henley            9   0-1    0-0   0   4   0  0   0
C.Barkley           5   1-1    0-0   0   1   0  0   2
R.Berry             7   0-2    0-0   0   1   1  0   0
D.Jackson           3   1-1    0-0   0   0   0  0   2
[b]Totals                 24-50  19-24  5  36  10  6  69
                       .480   .792

Turnovers[/b]: 13 (R.Fletcher 5, T.Evans 2, M.Schachtner 2,
E.Page 1, E.Segura 2, D.Jackson 1)

[b]Blocked Shots[/b]: 4 (T.Evans 1, E.Page 3)

[b]3-PT FG[/b]: 2-5, .400 (B.Perine 1-1, M.Schachtner 1-1,
E.Segura 0-2, R.Berry 0-1)



[b]VMI Keydets
Starters          min fgm-a  ftm-a off reb ast pf pts[/b]
A.Lonon            33   1-6    1-4   0   1   4  4   3
C.Holmes           33   6-12   4-4   2   3   2  2  18
T.Holmes           22   9-13   0-0   2   2   1  1  19
Q.Brownfield       28   3-9    0-0   0   7   3  1   6
S.Sargent           4   0-0    0-0   0   0   0  4   0
[b]Bench             min fgm-a  ftm-a off reb ast pf pts[/b]
A.Kenon            14   3-9    2-2   0   3   0  0   9
C.Hunter           12   1-5    0-0   0   0   3  0   2
T.Mosley           20   1-2    0-0   0   7   0  1   2
H.Houston          17   1-4    0-0   0   3   2  2   3
W.Bell             10   0-0    0-0   0   1   1  0   0
C.Josey             5   0-3    0-0   0   0   0  1   0
R.Borders           2   0-0    0-0   0   0   0  0   0
[b]Totals                 25-63   7-10  4  27  16 16  62
                       .397   .700

Turnovers[/b]: 9 (A.Lonon 3, C.Holmes 1, C.Hunter 2, H.Houston 2,
R.Borders 1)

[b]Blocked Shots[/b]: 4 (S.Sargent 3, W.Bell 1)

[b]3-PT FG[/b]: 5-22, .227 (A.Lonon 0-3, C.Holmes 2-4, T.Holmes 1-3,
Q.Brownfield 0-1, A.Kenon 1-5, C.Hunter 0-3, T.Mosley 0-1,
H.Houston 1-2)

Next Game: 11/23/08 - vs Missouri State @ Cameron Hall

[doncoryell]

Re: 11/14/08 -- Wisconsin-Green Bay (0-1) vs. VMI (0-0) -- Paradise Jam Tournament

Lexington, VA - After hearing about VMI's coach Knight complain about the officiating after last night's game against Wisconsin-Green Bay, the NCAA has fined him an undisclosed amount.

[doncoryell]

Re: Coaching Career of Bob Knight (No, not THAT Bob Knight) - take #2 - ps2

11/14/08

TOP 25

#5 Memphis 83, Siena 62
#6 Texas 70, Long Beach State 56
#8 Providence 85, #25 Georgia 61
#9 Arizona 70, Louisiana Tech 58
New Mexico State 84, #11 Indiana 75
#12 Villanova 62, Charlotte 57
#19 Kentucky 70, Alcorn State 43
#23 San Diego State 84, Southern 64

Big South

Wisconsin-Green Bay 69, VMI 62
Seton Hall 80, Coastal Carolina 73

OTHERS

Texas Southern 73, Missouri 70
Oklahoma State 68, Illinois State 41

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11/15/08

TOP 25

#2 Connecticut 80, Albany 60
#3 Tennessee 75, Pittsburgh 55
#7 Stanford 69, #14 Duke 46
#15 Louisville 72, Illinois 63
#16 Gonzaga 83, UC Davis 73
#18 Baylor 89, Texas-Arlington 59
Prairie View 65, #24 Texas A&M 63

Big South

Rice 78, Charleston Southern 45
Winthrop 60, Kennesaw State 51
High Point 66, South Carolina Upstate 63

OTHERS

Arkansas 83, Tennessee-Martin 48
Columbia 62, Winston-Salem State 43
West Virginia 67, Oklahoma State 58

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11/16/08

TOP 25

#2 Connecticut 66, Southern 44
#4 North Carolina 81, Belmont 61
#8 Providence 69, #5 Memphis 53
Idaho State 62, #22 Washington 53

OTHERS

West Virginia 65, Illinois State 44