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  • studbucket
    MVP
    • Aug 2007
    • 4610

    #1276
    The Biggest NBA storylines ahead of a fascinating season


    The 2024-25 NBA season may be the most interesting we’ve had in many years. In putting together this article, the storylines I put on the backburner or had to fold into other storylines to keep this list to 5 could have made up the top storylines in a previous season. From the juggernaut Bucks to the league’s new villains in Oklahoma City, drama and intrigue exists all over the league. So what are the top 5 stories from this author’s perspective?

    #1 – Will Giannis and Milwaukee complete the three-peat?
    Milwaukee has 3 titles in the last 5 years, Giannis has 5 MVPs (including 4 straight), and it feels like the Bucks are inevitable. The East is certainly better this year, but are there any contenders to knocking off the Bucks? We thought it might be Boston last year, but we saw them easily dispatched in the playoffs the last 2 seasons. The last team to beat the Bucks in the East is the Nets and they were average last year and just sent Kevin Durant to the Thunder.

    So who will challenge them? Are they going to easily dominate the East again? It doesn’t feel like it. They may still win the East, but it feels closer than it has been in a few years. Let’s start by looking at their roster.

    There are no doubts about Giannis – and we’ll talk more about his legacy later – but there are doubts around him. Khris Middleton is on the cusp of being too old to be an impact player. Is this the year he falls off? Clint Capela and Giannis have surprisingly made up the best “twin towers” this league has seen in 30 or 40 years. But is Capela still an All-Star? If his athleticism starts to slow down, can he still provide the same value for the Bucks?

    Donte DiVincenzo and Matt Forney are good players, but they aren’t All-Stars. Are they going to fill the gaps if Middleton’s scoring drops off? Maybe Forney can, but he’s already looking to fill the shoes of Eric Bledsoe, who looks like he may not even be a rotation piece this year. The Bucks 6th man is journeyman Harry Giles III, which is an interesting development, and the rest of their bench is largely young guys or unproven veterans. Maybe it all doesn’t matter because Giannis is just that good, but we’re a bit concerned.


    The Bucks starting 5 seems unstoppable.

    Looking at the rest of the East, two primary contenders show up: Boston and Philadelphia. Fans might try to make an argument for Charlotte, Toronto, or Detroit, but they haven’t shown themselves to be serious contenders. We’re focusing on the teams with the proven talent to win a championship and the personnel to challenge Milwaukee.

    Boston has largely the same team as last year, which is a very good thing. Bruno Radja is one of the league’s top point guards and Tatum and Lillard are well-rounded scorers. They have scoring, size, and defense at every position in their rotation and have taken offense at those that say that Denver or Oklahoma City has the most talented team in the league. The reason to doubt Boston is because they’ve never shown they can do it. Will Damian Lillard coming off the bench ultimately be successful? Can Tatum be the #1 guy on a champion? Do they have anyone who can slow down Giannis enough? They think the answer to all those questions is yes, but it’s been a resounding “no” the last 2 seasons as the Celtics have won 1 playoff game and lost 8 against Milwaukee the past two postseasons.


    Radja, Tatum, and Turner make up a formidable big three for the Celtics.


    The Bucks and 76ers have a bit of playoff history during this historic Milwaukee run, but it’s a few years old. That’s largely due to the 76ers absolutely falling in the playoffs. Here’s their last 5 postseasons:

    2020: 2nd seed, lost in 4 games to Milwaukee in conference finals
    2021: 2nd seed, lost in 6 games to Milwaukee in conference finals
    2022: 3rd seed, lost in 6 games to Milwaukee in conference finals
    2023: 2nd seed, swept in round 1 by the Raptors
    2024: 4th seed, lost in 7 games to Atlanta in round 1

    Despite all that, Philadelphia is feeling like this is their year. John Collins is a fantastic complementary piece to Embiid and they have as much talent as anyone in the East. If this isn’t their year, fans will have to wonder when it ever will be, but they have good reasons to be optimistic.


    Simmons and Embiid have full familiarity and chemistry with each other. Can it finally lead to postseason success?

    Bonus: Giannis’ Legacy Checkin
    We mentioned Giannis’ legacy earlier. This is a great time to take a look at his place in the pyramid of greats. Using Bill Simmons’ all-time list as the basis for this, let’s see where the Greek Freak would slot in. First, the easy part:
    1. He’s at least #10, jumping ahead of Jerry West and Oscar Robertson
    2. He’s not in the top 4 as he hasn’t surpassed Jordan, LeBron, Russell, or Kareem yet

    So that puts him somewhere between 5 and 10. Let’s look at his resume and see how it stacks up against the players currently ranked 5 through 9: Wilt, Bird, Magic, Duncan, and Kobe. Through 11 seasons, Antetokounmpo has won 3 titles, 5 MVPs, 2 DPoYs, and is averaging 24, 10, and 5 for his career. Here’s how that ranks against those other 5.

    Author's Note: after publishing I realized I accidentally omitted Steph Curry from this conversation. He's right there with Giannis fighting for a spot in the top 10.

    Player
    Years
    Titles
    MVPs
    All-NBAs
    All-Defenses
    All-Stars
    Wilt Chamberlain
    15
    2
    4
    10
    2
    13
    Larry Bird
    13
    3
    3
    10
    3
    12
    Magic Johnson
    13
    5
    3
    10
    0
    12
    Tim Duncan
    19
    5
    2
    15
    15
    15
    Kobe Bryant
    20
    5
    1
    15
    12
    18
    Giannis Antetokounmpo
    11
    3
    5
    8
    7
    8

    After comparing the numbers, if Giannis retired right now he’d stay at #10. However, as a 29 year old, he’s probably got at least 6 more great-to-good seasons left in him. He’s not ready to pass Kobe, but a few more titles or MVPs and we may be having that conversation.

    Giannis has been literally and figuratively head and shoulders above the league the last 6 seasons.


    #2 - Who the heck will win the West?
    It truly is the wild West this year. Denver, Golden State, and Oklahoma City are strong favorites in Vegas, with all three of them listed as +600 in Vegas to win the NBA title, but there’s a reasonably sized contingent of fans and pundits that are advocating for the Timberwolves, Pelicans, Rockets, and Mavericks. There are fun conversations to be had about those 4 teams but clarity is a good thing and we’re going to focus on the top 3 contenders in this article as this author doesn’t believe anyone outside of those 3 will make it out of the West.

    We’ll start with the reigning Western Conference champions: the Denver Nuggets. The upside of this team is undeniable. With a starting frontcourt of Jokic (6’11”), Bol Bol (7’3”), and Jonathan Isaac (6’10”), opponents are not going to find any space in the paint. On the offensive side, Jokic, Bol, Bradley Beal, and Jamal Murray all regularly score 20+ points a game and if you shut down 1, you have three more to pick up the slack.

    So what’s the problem with this team? There are 2 of them. The first is depth. The Nuggets’ trade for Ivica Zubac last year helped with this, and they made a concerted effort to improve the bench this year as well with the additions of Malik Monk, T.J. McConnell, and Jrue Holiday. It may not be perfect, but those three, 3rd year SF Bryan Wade, 2nd year PG Mac Nance, and Cam Johnson provide a better supporting cast than last year.

    The second problem hasn’t been solved: Mike Malone. Many observers feel that Denver made the Finals last year in spite of him and every time that the Denver brass is close to firing him, he goes on a great run and saves his job. Critics point to his inability to run a system that consistently uses his team’s strengths on offense and defense. Instead it feels like it’s a set of very talented players playing a pickup game. The team is at their best when running through Jokic, but far too often it feels like Beal needs the ball or Bol wants to set up in the paint.


    Denver’s starting 5 is as talented as they come (not pictured, Nikola Jokic).


    The Golden State Warriors won a title 4 seasons ago and defeated the Milwaukee Bucks in that series. Their detractors will say they are too old, their proponents will point to the extreme consistency. They had bad injury luck last postseason and many expected them to have beaten Denver in the Western Conference Finals if DeAndre Ayton wouldn’t have gotten injured. Despite being age 36, Steph Curry is still one of the best 5 players in the NBA and DeAndre Ayton is a perfect complementary piece to him. Jarrett Pressley has emerged as the 3rd most important player on the team, providing great leadership for the second unit and showing he is able to play capably alongside Steph.

    The concerns come in after those top 3. Jimmy Butler (age 35) and Klay Thompson (age 34) are both slowing down far more than Steph Curry is and are not the defensive forces they once were. Players 6-10 on this roster are Tyler Lydon, Kelly Oubre Jr, Daniel Theis, Evan Carlisle, and Davis Bertans. They are all competent players in their own right, but don’t make anyone too excited.

    But maybe none of that matters because when Steph, Ayton, and Pressley are right, all this team needs is role players.


    As Curry and Ayton go, so go the Warriors. The two make a fearsome duo.


    This leaves us with the Oklahoma City Thunder, the team that everyone has been talking about. They gave up an unbelievable amount of talent this offseason, but are probably a better team than last year. Gone are Domantas Sabonis, TJ Warren, Bogdan Bogdanovic, Dan Vignale, and Milos Jeffers. The fact that they are a better team speaks not only to the acquisition of LeBron and KD, but also to how good of a job the front office had done building this roster as this is a very deep, talented, and well-rounded team.

    Around their big two stars, they have:
    1. a very good rim protector and rim runner in Jarrett Allen
    2. Three-and-D extraordinaire Vytas Kowalczuk
    3. Draymond-lite in Dana Bright
    4. A dollar-store version of Ben Simmons in Seth Valsin
    5. Former NCAA National Player of the Year Sidney Dunnington as a backup 5

    …and several more players on their deep bench that ends with little Bronny James buried on the bottom. But he’s not forgotten: he’s the whole reason LeBron didn’t retire and forced his way out of LA.

    So what are the problems with this team? Don’t they seem perfect? Maybe. LeBron and KD have been slowing down offensively for several years now, with both hitting career lows in scoring and seeing their teams struggle in the postseason. If they can’t carry the scoring burden for this team, it’s not clear anyone has. Each of those role players are very nice - every team in the NBA would want these guys - but they aren’t a top 2 scoring option on a good team. If this Thunder team struggles, it’s going to be because they can’t get enough points.

    Let’s go back to our original question: who the heck is going to win the West? It’s difficult, that’s why we’re asking it. But if you made me place a bet, I’d say that the Warriors make 1 last run out of the West.


    It’s an image nobody ever expected: LeBron and Durant on the same team.


    #3 – Will the East’s two young superstars challenge the hierarchy?
    With all the focus on the Bucks and the Celtics’ superstars, it can be easy for the casual observer to forget about 2 of the most exciting young players in the league: Detroit’s Trevor Merchant and Charlotte’s Jerry Sparks. While both have had some success, it’s not hard to imagine how much higher their ceiling is given the brilliance that we’ve seen so far.

    Trevor Merchant came to prominence by snatching the League’s Most Exciting Young Guard title from Ja Morant in the 2022-23 NBA season, Merchant’s third year. Coming out of Mississippi State, most draft experts had he and Kansas wing Ernesto Parkinson as 1A and 1B in the draft, claiming you couldn’t go wrong with either. Most folks predicted Parkinson going #1 overall as the Nets had that pick and already had Kyrie Irving. While the Nets can’t complain Parkinson’s impact – he was the 3rd best player on their 2022 title team – the two can’t really be compared anymore. Parkinson is settling in as a solid 3rd scorer and reasonable defender. Merchant is scoring 30 points per game and churning out near triple-doubles on a Giannis-like level.

    Now entering his 5th season and having signed a huge new deal, the expectation is that the Pistons start to make deeper playoff runs. Merchant is an absolute handful, but can he elevate his teammates to win consistently in the regular season and be a true playoff threat? Marvin Bagley III’s game has certainly been elevated by playing with Merchant, but we’re still waiting for things to really click with Kevin Huerter, Andrew Wiggins, and Darrall Gosley alongside those two. None of those 3 can create their own shot, so for the Pistons to consistently get points they will need Merchant to make things happen for them.

    It will take a lot for the Pistons to surpass the Celtics and 76ers, let alone challenge the Bucks, but they’ve shown they can be a top 4 team in the East. Let’s see if Merchant can make the leap and become a true top 5 player in the league.


    Trevor Merchant is the most exciting young player in Detroit since Grant Hill, or even Isiah Thomas.

    Jerry Sparks has not been quite as consistent or successful as Trevor Merchant, but it’s common for big men to take a little longer to adjust to the NBA. However, the 1st overall pick of the 2021 draft has shown a tantalizing skillset and he has been good enough to make an All-Star game, so it’s not like we’re talking about a disappointment here – at least when talking about Sparks.

    The Hornets on the other hand have regularly disappointed. Over the last few years they’ve included Collin Sexton (now at LAC), Zach Lavine (now at BRK), Richaun Holmes (now at BRK), Lonzo Ball (now at MEM), De’Aaron Fox, and Jaren Jackson Jr in the roster. JJJ may finally change things, but the theme of this team has been “score a lot, allow even more”. They’ve struggled to stay around .500 while boasting a thrilling offense and one of the worst defenses we’ve seen in recent years.

    A lot of that struggle is due to personnel. Despite the exciting talent, it’s never really fit fully together. Fox and Sparks are a good match – that’s why they are still in Charlotte. But when they also had Sexton and Ball on the roster, you had 3 point guards vying playing time and the ball. Getting rid Sexton and bringing in Lavine solved that problem and Charlotte finally shifted Ball to the 3, allowing him to be a wing playmaker. Strictly from an offensive perspective, it mostly worked. Ball was among the league leaders in assists each of the past 3 seasons. However, Lavine was never a great fit. He can shoot the lights out, but won’t play defense and tries to do a lot of what Fox already does well on offense.

    Pair that with the lack of any depth in the frontcourt and no real rim protector and you had a team that looked great as a fantasy roster but didn’t bring the best out of Sparks. Charlotte is hoping they’ve finally found a winning formula: surround Sparks and Fox with defensive players who are happy to be secondary options in the offense and help space the floor. Even though giving up players like Lonzo Ball and Bobby Portis was a meaningful cost, the move to bring in JJJ should be brilliant for Charlotte. He can protect the rim as well as anyone in the league and can space the floor on offense. He doesn’t need to be a primary scorer and has playoff experience as part of that 2022 Memphis team that lost in 7 to the Nets in the Finals.

    So for these 2 young stars, there’s no way the season can successful if they are in the play-in. Detroit should be expecting to push Philly and Boston for a top 3 spot, while Charlotte should be looking to grab the 4, 5, or 6 seed and winning a playoff series. We know these two have the talent to catapult their teams into the realms of contender, now we just need to see them do it.


    Jerry Sparks’ talent is top tier. But he’s never tasted success in college or the pros.


    #4 – Which new look team will become a serious contender?
    There were major moves this offseason and the league is better and more exciting for it. The Thunder, Kings, Magic, Hornets, Grizzlies, and Knicks all feel they upgraded their rosters and are excited for the season. But there’s 3 “new look” teams that are more intriguing than the rest. They all feel they improved their teams, but public opinion is mixed on this and it’s likely that 1 or 2 of these three will flame out similarly to how Portland and Indiana did after the Lillard mega-trade. Who are these 3 teams? The New Orleans Pelicans, Phoenix Suns, and Brooklyn Nets.

    All three think they have set themselves up to make playoff runs, but did they actually?

    In the bayou, fans can’t believe they turned Adrian Stewart and Victor Oladipo into one of the league’s best perimeter scorers in Devin Booker. The New Orleans Pelicans have disappointed for Zion Williamson’s entire career, but somehow he’s been immune to the criticism. Now he’s gotta a running mate who may be better than him, but somebody whose teams have also been far from what has been expected. If this team doesn’t win, they’ll both be branded as losers.

    What will it take for them to be more than disappointments? A top 6 finish in the West with both players making the All-Star game is likely what the target should be.

    Whether it’s a new team or their same team, it’s a new situation for all 6 of these stars.


    Out in the desert, the Phoenix Suns have a new rival and someone to compare themselves to: the Pelicans. Devin Booker forced his way out of town, Dejounte Murray (now of the Magic) said that 3 months in Phoenix was enough for him to realize he wanted nothing to do with that locker room, and polarizing locker room personalities like Draymond Green have been released. It’s a fresh start in Phoenix with Bam Adebayo at the center and a cadre of promising and complementary pieces around him.

    This leaves us with what might be the weirdest roster in the NBA: the Brooklyn Nets. It was just 3 seasons ago they outdueled the Milwaukee Bucks – the only Eastern team to do so in the last 5 seasons. Some of their roster looks very familiar: Kyrie Irving is still there, as is Ernesto Parkinson and former UCLA big man Stewart Mobley. But there’s a few big changes, most notably Kevin Durant. The Slim Reaper came to Brooklyn and won them a title, then saw his production drop significantly over the following 2 seasons. Enough that Brooklyn wasn’t too heartbroken to see him leave. In his place they managed to get Zach Lavine, T.J. Warren, and more. It’s a weird, but very intriguing situation in Brooklyn, and one that just might cook up some victories.


    Answering the question – will any of these teams become a contender this year? My heart wants to choose the weird, wacky, and deep Nets. But ultimately, I think the East is just too tough and they won’t make an impact unless there are significant injuries elsewhere. Looking to the West, I’m going with the easy answer: New Orleans. There aren’t many duos more talented than Zion and Booker and their supporting cast is good enough to help them win 50+ games.


    #5 – [Meta] How will 2K23’s sim engine change history?
    We wrap up this article by breaking the 4th wall with some meta commentary. The first 5 seasons of this dynasty were run in NBA 2K20 on the Xbox. We’ve now moved the entire thing over to NBA 2K23 on the PC, spending 4 months editing faces, attributes, ratings, coaches, and uniforms to attempt to stay true to the universe that has been built around Dinko and Oggy.

    NBA 2K23 is a new game. The PC is a different system than console. My ratings transition may not have been perfect. All this is going to change how things operate in the universe. One huge example was in the 2 seasons I simmed to bring the dates into sync with the universe: the Atlanta Hawks won 2 straight NBA Finals. Something about 2K23 must love Trae Young and what they have going on in Atlanta. Will that continue now? The Hawks have been disappointing in this dynasty so far, so it will be interesting.

    The first 5 years, there have been a few key themes of the sim engine:
    1. It loves Giannis and the Bucks. He’s won 4 straight MVPs, they’ve made 4/5 Finals and won 3 of them. Only once have they not had the best record in the NBA in that stretch.
    2. LeBron is not a winner. The Lakers have been middle of the playoff pack or worse many years and has disappointed in every single playoffs but one.
    3. Super teams usually don’t work. LeBron, Davis, and Paul George. Kawhi, Ingram, and co on the Clippers. Luka, Porzingis, and Drummond. Fox, Lavine, Ball, and Sparks in Charlotte. None of them have won. Most have missed the playoffs at least once. The Radja, Tatum, and Lillard Celtics have been somewhat successful. The only counter-example is the Warriors since adding Jimmy Butler and DeAndre Ayton. They won the 2021 title over the Bucks and have been contenders every year.


    Will those things continue? Will young scoring stars like Trevor Merchant and RJ Barrett continue to put up numbers? Or will they fall off a bit? I don’t have the answers, but I’m excited to see what happens.


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    • JoshNormanMane
      Rookie
      • Jun 2018
      • 335

      #1277
      Re: The Bulgarian Brothers – A College Hoops 2K8 & NBA 2K20 Dynasty

      Love all of the detail you shared and the cyberfaces for guys like Adrian Stewart and Trevor Merchant.

      It'll be interesting to see from the fourth wall perspective you highlighted how much the landscape of the league changes. Giannis and Capela in the front court should keep the Bucks in contention but without a big move, idk if I see the 3-peat happening. Maybe Giannis can just force his way to Atlanta to put the 3-peat in the bag lol.

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      • studbucket
        MVP
        • Aug 2007
        • 4610

        #1278
        Re: The Bulgarian Brothers – A College Hoops 2K8 & NBA 2K20 Dynasty

        Originally posted by JoshNormanMane
        Love all of the detail you shared and the cyberfaces for guys like Adrian Stewart and Trevor Merchant.
        Thanks man. I had a 3.5 hour flight back to Iowa recently and it gave me a lot of time to be creative and work out all the angles here. There's a lot I left on the cutting room floor, but I'm excited for this season.

        I've been really enjoying the cyberfaces. Some are absolutely terrible - I should share some of those sometime lol. Skintone mismatches, hair in the wrong places, but those are for role players and I find the variety funny.

        For some players, I re-use cyberfaces of existing or past NBA players, just because I know they work well. For instance I think I've used Luka Garza and Bimbo Coles for existing young players.


        Originally posted by JoshNormanMane
        It'll be interesting to see from the fourth wall perspective you highlighted how much the landscape of the league changes. Giannis and Capela in the front court should keep the Bucks in contention but without a big move, idk if I see the 3-peat happening. Maybe Giannis can just force his way to Atlanta to put the 3-peat in the bag lol.

        The Bucks will absolutely be contenders, but I'm not sure how they'll hold up in the playoffs. Will they get a 1 seed again? I also think the West is better than the East, at least at the top, so maybe they get to the Finals and lose? Either way, this will be their toughest path to the Finals since the Nets won it all 3 years ago.

        And LOL about going to Atlanta. I've now simmed 2 months of the NBA season and I'm working on a mix of Drago Derby and NBA recap content. The Hawks are likely gonna make a big move before the deadline, but it won't involve the Bucks.
        ?The Bulgarian Brothers - a story of two brothers (Oggy and Dinko) as they coach in the NCAA and the NBA.

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        • studbucket
          MVP
          • Aug 2007
          • 4610

          #1279
          Coaches’ Corner: Episode 9 (November 15, 2024)


          It is KDKA Channel 2’s distinct privilege to present Coaches’ Corner with Pittsburgh’s adopted son, Ognyan Dragomirov. Live from Los Angeles, California, here is the head coach of Loyola Marymount University.
          -----

          Oggy:
          Welcome and ‘zdraveyte’ to a very special edition of Coaches’ Corner. Now you might be saying “Oggy they are all special.” Fair enough, they are. But it’s not often you have a guest as esteemed as the one we have tonight. Even ESPN would say an interview with this gentleman would be a huge get, and somehow this local access program was able to secure the interview.

          So who is this esteemed guest? It’s one that will make every other guest on this show, even Dinko, seem inconsequential. Someone I’ve had the privilege to meet over the past few months since moving to California: he has 20+ years as a personnel man in the NBA and is the architect of 8 NBA title teams in the Bay Area. Please welcome the one and only Rhadi Staley.

          Rhadi:
          Oggy, I appreciate you having me on. I'm more of a local broadcast guy, so honored to be on the show.


          Oggy:
          We’ll take the wins where we can get ‘em around here. You’ve had a career that has had a truly worldwide impact: how did you get into the business side of basketball? What was the path you took to get you to the top of one of the greatest teams and sports organizations in NBA history?


          Rhadi:
          I've been very fortunate in my career to have worked with some really impressive and incredible people, but Bob Myers was as impactful on my career as anyone. He was the one who gave me my initial start at SFX Sports back in 2002 as a player agent and really helped me at every step of my career. He showed me the value of relationships in sports as well as the work ethic and time required to do this job. No one gets to where they are without some help along the way, and he's been a huge help for me.


          I was lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time. When Bob retired in 2023, I had been with the organization for a decade and had already been the general manager for four years, so I was just lucky to have had some experience with the organization. I think that familiarity and trust that I could do the job, and trust from me that the organization would have my back if I made some boneheaded decisions, really helped out. It's been a fun ride.

          Oggy:
          This wasn’t on my question list, but I’ve got to know: as much as you can tell me, who were your best and worst clients?


          Rhadi:
          Each player is unique, and it was always my priority to treat them as such. One guy may want to be closer to family, one guy may want to be as far away as he could possibly get. One guy may hate the cold, the other may not care. Every player that I worked with had moments when they were the worst to work with, and moments when they were the best to work with.


          What always amazed me was the motivation of the players. You'd think you had an idea of what they wanted, and I like to think we did a good job of doing that, but they're humans. Inevitably they change their mind. So you would walk into a meeting and expect them to want something and it turns out they want something else. That's the challenge, and also the fun part, about working with these players.

          Oggy:
          In some ways that sounds like coaching, but with a different set of focuses. Given that, why front office instead of coaching?


          Rhadi:
          Coaching wasn't really something that ever crossed my mind when my playing career finished. I enjoyed the game, but I also knew that I wasn't going to be good at that aspect of it. What's the adage, the best players can't coach? I certainly wasn't the best player, but I can tell you right now I wouldn't have made a good coach.


          And I don't know that I really expected to end up in a front office. When I started as an agent, I was pretty convinced that's what I was going to do for my career. But life's unpredictable, and when the opportunity to work with a team came about, it was exciting. It was a new challenge, which is something that I've always tried to do: challenge myself with things I may be uncomfortable with doing. If I fail, so be it, at least I did it. Fortunately, I've had some good people with the Warriors that have helped make this thing a success.

          Oggy:
          I appreciate a man with self-awareness. You clearly know basketball, but coaching, playing, being an agent, and doing personnel work are 4 different roles. So as a front office guy, what is your working relationship with your coaches? How do you expect roles and responsibilities to be split?


          Rhadi:
          There has to be a connection between the front office and the coaching staff, and it's about having a collaborative and flexible approach to building the roster and putting pieces in place. Our coaching staff, Steve and now Chris, have a vision of how they believe we can play to win games, something we obviously need to share. The front office needs to have the trust in the staff to execute on that vision.


          We also have to have the trust of our coaches to go out and acquire players that fit that vision. There's obviously going to be times when the front office may want to get a guy that the coaching staff may not be targeting, and vice versa, but it's important for us to be flexible with one another because we all want the same thing.

          Oggy:
          Thank you for those details. I know it’s probably more of an art than a science and that’s hard to describe in a few sentences. Let’s wrap things up with a question that I am *ahem* asking for a friend.


          What pieces of advice do you have for college coaches who make the jump to the NBA? How can they best succeed?

          Rhadi:
          College and the NBA each have their own challenges, though the trajectory that college has been on has sort of blurred the lines. I think the biggest thing is just understanding the differences in the personalities. In college, you're working with 18, 19, 20 year old kids who are still figuring things out.

          In the NBA it's dealing with professionals who are making a career out of it. They have different motivations, different desires, and different views on the league, the team, their playing time, and plenty of other things. You just have to manage the people differently. The X's and O's change slightly, but it's the people who are different and I've found it's important to manage them as such.

          Oggy:
          That’s a great way to think about it. I obviously have a lot to learn tactically – Dinko is a bit more passionate there – but learning to deal with the personalities is a different job entirely than getting guys to understand sets and plays on the basketball court.


          It’s truly been a pleasure having you today Rhadi, and good luck this offseason. May the signings and trades be in your favor!

          Rhadi:
          Thanks a lot, Oggy. I appreciate you having me on. Always been a big fan from afar but wish you nothing but the best out here in California.


          Oggy:
          And with that boys and girls, we’re out of time. Join us in a few weeks for our next Coaches’ Corner.



          If you haven’t read Marshdaddy’s The Golden Era yet, please do so! It’s a wonderful addition to the OS dynasties.
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          • JoshNormanMane
            Rookie
            • Jun 2018
            • 335

            #1280
            Re: The Bulgarian Brothers – A College Hoops 2K8 & NBA 2K20 Dynasty

            Nice read. I didn't have a Bulgarian Brothers and Golden Era crossover episode on my bingo card lol.

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            • studbucket
              MVP
              • Aug 2007
              • 4610

              #1281
              Re: The Bulgarian Brothers – A College Hoops 2K8 & NBA 2K20 Dynasty

              Originally posted by JoshNormanMane
              Nice read. I didn't have a Bulgarian Brothers and Golden Era crossover episode on my bingo card lol.
              If there's one thing that's true about Oggy, you never know what he's gonna do next
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              • HarkTheSound
                MVP
                • Dec 2007
                • 1167

                #1282
                Re: The Bulgarian Brothers – A College Hoops 2K8 & NBA 2K20 Dynasty

                I have a 6-hour flight in a couple of weeks and I think I am going to spend some that time re-reading this thread and refreshing my memory on some of these players and the state of things. Enjoying seeing your NBA world slowly coming together as more of these college players enter the league.

                How are you enjoying NBA 2K23 PC gameplay? Will you play more games or prefer to do sim watches?
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                • studbucket
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 4610

                  #1283
                  Re: The Bulgarian Brothers – A College Hoops 2K8 & NBA 2K20 Dynasty

                  Originally posted by HarkTheSound
                  I have a 6-hour flight in a couple of weeks and I think I am going to spend some that time re-reading this thread and refreshing my memory on some of these players and the state of things. Enjoying seeing your NBA world slowly coming together as more of these college players enter the league.

                  How are you enjoying NBA 2K23 PC gameplay? Will you play more games or prefer to do sim watches?
                  That sounds like a great flight! Hopefully it's headed to somewhere fun. When I think 6 hour flights, I think of going to Hawaii, Mexico, Europe, or the Caribbean. I've re-read this thread twice or so and definitely even re-remember some things myself.

                  Let me know what questions you have or if there are any noteworthy players or moments you want to follow up on.

                  So far I am liking 2K23 gameplay more than 2K20. Maybe I did better with my sliders, but it feels smoother than 2K20, which had a lot of problems with either being "arcade" or "players constantly getting stuck on each other" with no in between. I have decided to use real FG% instead of shot timing, and I just need to keep slightly tweaking the sliders to make it a good challenge.

                  I mostly just straight up sim the season, but jump into playing parts of several games a month. I use it to get some highlights and screenshots, as well as seeing how to tweak the sliders.

                  Once the brothers make the NBA, I will probably play ~10 games per year per brother and sim the rest.
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                  • HarkTheSound
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 1167

                    #1284
                    Re: The Bulgarian Brothers – A College Hoops 2K8 & NBA 2K20 Dynasty

                    Originally posted by studbucket
                    That sounds like a great flight! Hopefully it's headed to somewhere fun. When I think 6 hour flights, I think of going to Hawaii, Mexico, Europe, or the Caribbean. I've re-read this thread twice or so and definitely even re-remember some things myself.

                    Let me know what questions you have or if there are any noteworthy players or moments you want to follow up on.

                    So far I am liking 2K23 gameplay more than 2K20. Maybe I did better with my sliders, but it feels smoother than 2K20, which had a lot of problems with either being "arcade" or "players constantly getting stuck on each other" with no in between. I have decided to use real FG% instead of shot timing, and I just need to keep slightly tweaking the sliders to make it a good challenge.

                    I mostly just straight up sim the season, but jump into playing parts of several games a month. I use it to get some highlights and screenshots, as well as seeing how to tweak the sliders.

                    Once the brothers make the NBA, I will probably play ~10 games per year per brother and sim the rest.
                    Flying to the west coast (Seattle area) for some hiking and outdoor adventures with some buddies. Should be a good time!

                    I would say the one thing that should help me during the re-read is figuring out which of the players are generated recruits and which were the ones that were in your original roster file since you started with a roster that didn't have the real names. Been funny to see the Michael Beasley and Tyler Hansbrough doppelgängers, as well as several others, move forward in your universe. Was Merchant an original roster guy or someone that CH2K8 generated?
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                    • studbucket
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 4610

                      #1285
                      Re: The Bulgarian Brothers – A College Hoops 2K8 & NBA 2K20 Dynasty

                      Originally posted by HarkTheSound
                      Flying to the west coast (Seattle area) for some hiking and outdoor adventures with some buddies. Should be a good time!
                      I've lived in Seattle since 2009, so send me a DM if you have questions about food, hikes, etc. I hope you have an awesome time. When it's sunny (which it will be for the next few days/week at least), it's amazing here.

                      Originally posted by HarkTheSound
                      I would say the one thing that should help me during the re-read is figuring out which of the players are generated recruits and which were the ones that were in your original roster file since you started with a roster that didn't have the real names. Been funny to see the Michael Beasley and Tyler Hansbrough doppelgängers, as well as several others, move forward in your universe. Was Merchant an original roster guy or someone that CH2K8 generated?
                      Ha, totally. Generally, the 2020-2023 draft were 90-100% existing players from the roster like Beasley (Jerry Sparks), Tyler Hansbrough (Jarek Kickert), Luke Harangody (Sidney Dunnington), Brandon Rush (Ernesto Parkinson), Bill Walker (Jameer Trammell), or Roy Hibbert (Juan King).

                      Merchant was probably Jamont Gordon. I love that Merchant is amazing and Gordon didn't do much.

                      Bonus: Bobby Drake (SuperSonics) is probably Donte Green.

                      EDIT: the next post I make is basically going to be a "what other storylines do you want to know about?" - feel free to make a catalog of curiosities on your flight and ask them here. I can do all the necessary research to answer them.
                      Last edited by studbucket; 06-07-2024, 12:09 PM.
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                      • studbucket
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 4610

                        #1286
                        Other storylines and players to highlight

                        A few days ago I posted about what I felt were the top 5 stories of this upcoming NBA season, but there’s so much that I left out. What else do you want to hear more about? Any teams you want an update on? Any young players you want a spotlight of?

                        Here are some storylines that didn’t make the cut:
                        1. Will any young teams make the leap this year? The Spurs led by Raynell Ere and Horace Wolfe? The Magic with their lottery pick quartet of Erroll Reaser, Jaan O’Donnell, Jameer Trammell, and Angelo Braswell (out for 2024-25 season)? Or maybe the SuperSonics, led by Bobby Drake?
                        2. Are the Knicks relevant again now that they have Jaylen Brown, Brandon Ingram, and #1 overall pick Kordel Cleaves? Or is this just a teaser and the fans need to wait for Mirko Bosnjak to come over from Croatia next season?
                        3. The Blazers and Kings overhauled their rosters. Will either of them make the playoffs? Are they set up to succeed in the near future?
                        4. The Raptors and Mavs are extremely talented and extremely disappointing. Will either star-laden team be real contenders this season?
                        5. Is this the last hurrah for the Rockets and Jazz? If they can’t make it happen with their current cores, do they move on?
                        6. Which rookies should we watch this year? Experts seem very mixed on who the Rookie of the Year favorite should be and it’s wide open as to which rookies will have the biggest impact early in their careers.
                        7. Is this LeBron’s last season? Or will he stay longer to play with Bronny as he develops?


                        If any of these, or any teams or players seem interesting. Let me know in this thread or a private message. I’m happy to dig in more.
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                        • HarkTheSound
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 1167

                          #1287
                          Re: The Bulgarian Brothers – A College Hoops 2K8 & NBA 2K20 Dynasty

                          Originally posted by studbucket
                          I've lived in Seattle since 2009, so send me a DM if you have questions about food, hikes, etc. I hope you have an awesome time. When it's sunny (which it will be for the next few days/week at least), it's amazing here.



                          Ha, totally. Generally, the 2020-2023 draft were 90-100% existing players from the roster like Beasley (Jerry Sparks), Tyler Hansbrough (Jarek Kickert), Luke Harangody (Sidney Dunnington), Brandon Rush (Ernesto Parkinson), Bill Walker (Jameer Trammell), or Roy Hibbert (Juan King).

                          Merchant was probably Jamont Gordon. I love that Merchant is amazing and Gordon didn't do much.

                          Bonus: Bobby Drake (SuperSonics) is probably Donte Green.

                          EDIT: the next post I make is basically going to be a "what other storylines do you want to know about?" - feel free to make a catalog of curiosities on your flight and ask them here. I can do all the necessary research to answer them.
                          Ahhh, yes I actually know that name (Jamont Gordon) and remember he was pretty highly rated on the game. I've played with those 07-08 rosters so much I recognize many of the names that shipped with the game, big and small. He had a solid college career in real life but never panned out in the pros. Not the case for the doppelgänger who looks like he's one of (if not the) best players from your CH2K8 file so far.

                          Who are some new guys from CH2K8 you're excited to see enter the NBA soon? I like that you can set Boom/Bust/Average percentages when creating a player (at least you can on Next Gen) so that while you'll have a pretty good idea if someone is good, it's not a guarantee either. And there are bound to be surprises pop up too, just like real life.
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                          • JoshNormanMane
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2018
                            • 335

                            #1288
                            Re: The Bulgarian Brothers – A College Hoops 2K8 & NBA 2K20 Dynasty

                            Imo, the hardest part of the Dynasties is writing about the Create-A-Players. Writing about a Luka, Giannis, Jokic etc requires no backstory or extra details since we're all already familiar with them while the CAPs, I feel as we always need to rehash their backstory and what they've done recently to keep interest.

                            For me, I think it'd be interesting to write some Bill Simmons-form content of either NBA re-drafts or maybe the Best (or Worst) 5-10 Draft Picks over the last X-Years. Not only do I think you could rehash those prospect's initial expectations entering the league but then you could touch on how their careers have panned out since.

                            I know it's not a specific storyline and I think any of the options you listed out would be an interesting read as well, especially if you're eager to write about the topics.

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                            • studbucket
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 4610

                              #1289
                              Re: The Bulgarian Brothers – A College Hoops 2K8 & NBA 2K20 Dynasty

                              Originally posted by HarkTheSound
                              Ahhh, yes I actually know that name (Jamont Gordon) and remember he was pretty highly rated on the game. I've played with those 07-08 rosters so much I recognize many of the names that shipped with the game, big and small. He had a solid college career in real life but never panned out in the pros. Not the case for the doppelgänger who looks like he's one of (if not the) best players from your CH2K8 file so far.

                              Who are some new guys from CH2K8 you're excited to see enter the NBA soon? I like that you can set Boom/Bust/Average percentages when creating a player (at least you can on Next Gen) so that while you'll have a pretty good idea if someone is good, it's not a guarantee either. And there are bound to be surprises pop up too, just like real life.
                              As I thought on this last night, I realized that honestly I was way more excited about last year's draft class than this year's. However, here are some guys that I think are interesting.
                              • Caron Williams, 7'2" C, Sophomore, Boston College - huge, young, and already good.
                              • Jazz Grace, 6'5" SG, Senior, Tulane - well rounded, great name, small school.
                              • Jermaine Faulk, 6'6" SG, Junior, Louisville - has arguably been the best player on Louisville for 2-3 years. Will he go pro?
                              • Joshua Berrelleca, 6'10" SF, Junior, San Francisco - he and San Fran are gonna destroy Oggy. He's got great size, can shoot threes, and is an OK athlete.
                              • RJ Bartlett, 6'11" HS Sr, TBD college (likely WVU, UConn, or Pitt) - big man who attended the Drago Dominators camp and is a top 20 recruit this year.


                              For boom/bust, PC is last gen so it doesn't have that. However, I get a bit of randomness via my process.
                              1. I enter all ~60 prospects into a spreadsheet. Then I sort by draft projection, position, overall, and potential to get an approximate top-to-bottom list. This list often doesn't correlate with college production.
                              2. Then I go to the auto-generated NBA draft (quality 42) and go position by position, putting the #1 center from the spreadsheet as the #1 center in the auto-generated draft. I edit key attributes to be roughly aligned, but usually don't touch potential.
                              3. So we get things where the #20 NBA prospect may have the highest potential.
                              4. Because there are so many draft prospects and I do this in the offseason, I honestly forget who has amazing potential, so the draft and NBA careers are often a bit of a surprise to me.


                              Originally posted by JoshNormanMane
                              Imo, the hardest part of the Dynasties is writing about the Create-A-Players. Writing about a Luka, Giannis, Jokic etc requires no backstory or extra details since we're all already familiar with them while the CAPs, I feel as we always need to rehash their backstory and what they've done recently to keep interest.

                              For me, I think it'd be interesting to write some Bill Simmons-form content of either NBA re-drafts or maybe the Best (or Worst) 5-10 Draft Picks over the last X-Years. Not only do I think you could rehash those prospect's initial expectations entering the league but then you could touch on how their careers have panned out since.

                              I know it's not a specific storyline and I think any of the options you listed out would be an interesting read as well, especially if you're eager to write about the topics.
                              I have definitely been considering a look back on drafts for sure. We're not quite 5 years from the 2020 NBA draft, and it kinda feels like we could be ready to revisit that. Here's some ideas I had:
                              • Re-draft of 2020 NBA draft
                              • Ranking of the top 25 under 25 NBA players
                              • Biggest draft busts of 2020-2023
                              • More player spotlights (probably doing 3 per season because they're more effort to write)
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                              • studbucket
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 4610

                                #1290
                                Mid-December NCAA Update

                                It’s been several in-game weeks for the brothers, and as we approach the Drago Derby, we didn’t want to clutter up those posts with news from around the NCAA. Here’s your update on basketball around the country for mid-December.

                                St. Francis
                                1. They suffered a huge loss to Darrall Sheridan (C, 86 ovr) and BYU: 83-45. Sheridan scored 28 points and no Red Flash player was in double digits.
                                2. After that rough game, St. Francis regrouped and went on a nice run of 3 straight wins:
                                  1. Beat Stetson 83-78. 5 players were in double digits and Chris Thompson had a 10 point, 11 rebound double-double. Ray Rowe (C, 73 ovr) scored 20 points in the loss.
                                  2. St. Francis then won 2 games in the Gossner Foods Holiday Classic. First 75-57 over Savannah State. E.F. McGuire scored 21 points off the bench.
                                  3. Then they beat Chattanooga 89-57, led by Erwin Willingham’s 19 points, 6 rebounds, and 3 assists.



                                Loyola Marymount
                                1. The Lions started off with a 65-79 loss to Cal Poly. Nashif had 19 points and 9 rebounds while Kahrimanovic had 6 points, 6 rebounds, and 8 assists.
                                2. They followed this up with a big-time victory over Mississippi State, 72-71. After being up at halftime, they held on for dear life as the Bulldogs clawed back but lost by 1. MSU’s star Corsley Laudato (SG, 83 ovr) dropped 25 points, but Skip Salow, Herbert Nashif, Reid Christensen, and Konrad Abbott combined for 47 points to get the win. Mississippi State only shot 4 free throws the entire game while Loyola shot 36.
                                3. They wrapped up the stretch with a win over familiar foe Jacksonville 82-64. They held Homer Nelke (C, 72 ovr) to 3-18 shooting and go Clarence Bowen (C, 70 ovr) to foul out. Reid Christensen had 22 points.


                                Around the NCAA
                                1. #4 Louisville loses to Illinois 72-77 despite Jermaine Faulk’s (SG, 88 ovr) 32 points. This drops Louisville to 16th.
                                2. #16 Marquette destroys #5 North Carolian 91-69 behind 12-19 shooting from deep. UNC drops to #15 in the polls.
                                3. Clemson beats #3 Pitt 67-55. It’s the first loss of the year for the Panthers, who fall to #8.


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