Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

[booker21]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Booker, do you remember 13? The demo? That was the first year for physics in Madden. The demo felt amazing. They released a patch which tightened that up. The release version felt nothing like it. That is the way this tuner feels. It changes the dynamics of the tackling animations drastically.


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I`m glad i`m not crazy then. Yeah, i played a the whole weekend with the tuner just to see if it was me or some imagination. It did`t wow may anymore. I started seeing those scripted tackles over and over. I decided today to remove the tuner, i hate it, because i always want to be updated but the tacking is night and day to me at least. Some people prefer the scripted tackles because they are more "cleaner" i think is the word they used. But i like the rag doll effects, it make every tackle different and also make players weight matter most. No CB tackling Power RB and having that animation that throw the RB back 2 yds.

[SECElit3]

Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Ahh, I gotcha. Yeah I've noticed more big hits on ball carriers. I'll have to look out for static tackles next game.

The've already made two moves which significantly impacted the dynamics of the tackling system. With the first tuner and the second patch, they altered the code so that defenders would no longer attempt to punch the ball out. Why? To prevent fumbling for those who didn't use the cover ball button. Why make that change instead of increasing the effectiveness of the cover the ball feature. "Hey guys, we see that you have complaints in regards to fumbling. Here is a way to prevent that from happening..."

See it's funny when they are marketing the game and trying to get everybody on the hype train, it's like yeah we want to make the game more simulation. We want the game to teach people football. Then they make a change which negates an important feature of the game. A feature that teaches people to cover the ball in traffic.

It makes no sense to me. And yes it feels like a bait and switch


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[booker21]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

See this is what I don't like about the whole "online" v "offline" argument. It can come across rather condescending. It's like the offline CFM crowd are the real sim players who really know football and know how it should be versus the online crowd that are cheesy and only know FB based on their fantasy football league.

The reality it there are ton's of online sim leagues with 32 guys in each league with most having a great football mind. I'm both. I'm in an online league and a knowledgable football sim player. Our league has had crazy rushing numbers. This tuner has helped.

No one abuses a certain play. We can't. It's against our rules. It was just too easy to run overall. So the data that Rex had matches our findings. Our league averaged over 5 yards per carry in week one. The average we want is 4.1 or so. We use All Madden with sliders to help run defense.

With this tuner it looks like we are pretty close to 4 yards per carry.


I guess my point is don't assume the data being used are all a bunch of mindless cheese balls abusing outside zone all game.

But we don`t know that. I seriously doubt it that they leave away my "cousin" stats for example, who only throw 4 verticals all day.

And it`s not about Online players vs Offline players. It`s about Sim players vs Casual players.

[cable guy]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

I`m glad i`m not crazy then. Yeah, i played a the whole weekend with the tuner just to see if it was me or some imagination. It did`t wow may anymore. I started seeing those scripted tackles over and over. I decided today to remove the tuner, i hate it, because i always want to be updated but the tacking is night and day to me at least. Some people prefer the scripted tackles because they are more "cleaner" i think is the word they used. But i like the rag doll effects, it make every tackle different and also make players weight matter most. No CB tackling Power RB and having that animation that throw the RB back 2 yds.

I do notice that. Pre patch. It was how the players felt like they had weight to them. It really felt like they were running on the ground, different size different feel. Maybe a placebo affect. Maybe I played on slow speed then.

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[charter04]

Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

But we don`t know that. I seriously doubt it that they leave away my "cousin" stats for example, who only throw 4 verticals all day.

And it`s not about Online players vs Offline players. It`s about Sim players vs Casual players.

Look I agree with what's being said about tackling and the strips that where happening. I was not happy with the tuning of the strip and I'm not happy about the adjustment to tackling or WR drops. The only thing that needed to happen in my opinion was for the force defenders to play better and the defensive players to take better pursuit angles.

Everything else was fine out of the box to me.

They increased block shedding and increased tackling. I don't agree with how the adjusted things but, I agree that it needed an adjustment.

I was just saying that I don't like the negative connotation about "online" crowd as I am a part of the online crowd as one who is in a online franchise of 32 guys. That was my complaint.

[booker21]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Look I agree with what's being said about tackling and the strips that where happening. I was not happy with the tuning of the strip and I'm not happy about the adjustment to tackling or WR drops. The only thing that needed to happen in my opinion was for the force defenders to play better and the defensive players to take better pursuit angles.

Everything else was fine out of the box to me.

They increased block shedding and increased tackling. I don't agree with how the adjusted things but, I agree that it needed an adjustment.

I was just saying that I don't like the negative connotation about "online" crowd as I am a part of the online crowd as one who is in a online franchise of 32 guys. That was my complaint.

I'm sorry. I should have said casual vs sim.


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[SECElit3]

Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

You know, none of these changes would be an issue for me if EA gave me access to downloads, commentary updates, uniforms, and other DLC, regardless of having the latest updates to the game. it just feels like them saying "Our way is the way to play" If you don't like the changes, we cut your access to everything else.


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[cable guy]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

One thing I recommend if you use the latest tuner is delete all of your sliders and madden profile . This will reset the gameplay back to default and erase all of the minor changes you might have made either through sliders, penalties or auto subs . You don't have to delete your rosters ! What this does is reboot the game to its original state .

Adjusting sliders on a constant basis and changing other gameplay variables builds upon changes to the game . It's like your corrupting the original code to satisfy your custom gameplay. I've changed sliders so many time just to notice that the game sometimes moves a little slower or sluggish. Something changes in the code when default gameplay sliders are altered.

With that said ,I strongly recommend deleting all of your sliders and profile . Update the tuner then put your sliders and other changes to where they were .

I did this and the tuner plays great. I also play on default All Madden, but it def plays tighter and cleaner than on launch .

How about this? Has anybody tried it? Does it make a difference.

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[booker21]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

How about this? Has anybody tried it? Does it make a difference.

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I did. I did`t see any difference at all.

i even download the game, yeah the whole game.

[Culture Rot]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Is this the annual tuning update where they seem to ruin the game from what it was out of the box based on user feedback?

[SECElit3]

Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Is this the annual tuning update where they seem to ruin the game from what it was out of the box based on user feedback?

Hahaha.... You said it, I didn't... Post of the year right here boys!

I like to say game play updates built by the"suits" for the......well, "suits"


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[rich8682]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Hahaha.... You said it, I didn't... Post of the year right here boys!


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Except this tuner actually improved the gameplay. Your point?

Like seriously, if you hate the game don't post on a Madden board.

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[SECElit3]

Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Except this tuner actually improved the gameplay. Your point?

Like seriously, if you hate the game don't post on a Madden board.

Rich, your opinion is subjective as is mine. I don't hate the game, and no it didn't improve the game play imo

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Rich, your opinion is subjective as is mine. I don't hate the game, and no it didn't improve the game play imo





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[rich8682]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

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Aight man fair enough. Let's just agree to disagree on this one.

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[Jm0ney2001]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Idk my first game with the tuner on default all madden and I had 337 rushing yards with AP. By far my most. And the cpu had 253 with David Johnson. My 6-3 Vikes won in a shootout 46-40 in OT. This game just can't be played on default to get sim stats in 15 min qtrs can it?