As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

[ForUntoOblivionSoar∞]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

If you're using my QB trait edits then that would make sense cause Goff is a pocket passer type. I'm happy to see Cam Newton start scrambling.

Well, he didn't actually run past the line much. He did a lot of scrambling behind the pocket though. Wilson, on the other hand, tore my *** up a few plays, both running past the line on a scramble and acting like a rabbit to my defense when I was going to sack him before throwing down field. Well, he didn't actually do the video game crap Wilson does in real life, but he easily outran even my corner blitzes, found some room and threw down field.

Yes this was a post I made earlier in this thread:

Rodgers really shouldn't though I don't think. He is a scrambler. He is the QB most like Russel Wilson in the real NFL. He does a BUNCH of extending the play before throwing down field, more than anyone else besides Wilson.

[RogerDodger]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Well, if they could bring back the T&R trait and keep improving upon the adaptive traits, adding adaptive defensive and offensive CPU ai. We would have a special Madden for the CPU to get all that love.

What are the odds they removed the T&R trait specifically because it was being abused online? That would pretty much sum up the current problems with Madden development. Offline is meaningless to them.

[timhere1970]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

What are the odds they removed the T&R trait specifically because it was being abused online? That would pretty much sum up the current problems with Madden development. Offline is meaningless to them.

The tuck and run trait doesn't come into play for a human controlled qb so it shouldn't have any affect in online play. The human player makes that decision themselves.

[RogerDodger]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

The tuck and run trait doesn't come into play for a human controlled qb so it shouldn't have any affect in online play. The human player makes that decision themselves.

*eats humble pie*

I don't play online.

[ForUntoOblivionSoar∞]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Been experimenting trying to get QB's to run for some yards under pressure. Having a heck of a time.

The clip is of all the movement I was able to induce from Russell Wilson in my most recent game. He only had one rush in the game—a read option that I blew up which I excluded from the reel. Now, I know Wilson isn't a running QB, but I think he should still be good for at least 40-50 carries/year on the low end at this point in his career. I tried like hell to blitz him, and then I tried dropping everyone in coverage for a bit as well. The ai qb behavior remained the same I'd say.

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Some of the scrambles to pass look decent, but I did also have six sacks in the game. I'm not really commenting on anything generally, just trying to get some data out there and see what others think.

That's odd. He completely smoked me several times with runs when I played him.

I wonder... are you playing online or offline franchise? I'm playing a single player online franchise, and saw a few scrambles for yards from him, and many more scrambles away from sacks before throwing the ball.

[bad_philanthropy]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

That's odd. He completely smoked me several times with runs when I played him.

I wonder... are you playing online or offline franchise? I'm playing a single player online franchise, and saw a few scrambles for yards from him, and many more scrambles away from sacks before throwing the ball.

Cloud. And yeah, I completely ignored his legs and mostly sold out on excessive dropping back and pass committing.

[GR5Noles]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

so I played my first game of M18 last night with the Vikings vs. the Rams on All-Pro Sim.

I sacked Jared Goff 6 times, but he did also have a nice rushing touchdown where the tucked it and ran after the pocket collapsed.

[extremeskins04]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

That's odd. He completely smoked me several times with runs when I played him.

I wonder... are you playing online or offline franchise? I'm playing a single player online franchise, and saw a few scrambles for yards from him, and many more scrambles away from sacks before throwing the ball.

So you're playing in the cloud (online) CFM and you've made the QB trait edit adjustments? Or have you left them at default from the latest roster update?

Just want to be clear.

[phillyfan23]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Ive been playing some games against cam newton and see how he does....

I edited his traits to scramble, paranoid ideal force passes, and throwaway yes

The good is i see less statue sacks a bit...but when he does break the pocket, 9 times out of 10 he starts scrambling but at the LOS he makes a throw against his body usually incomplete. Had he continued his run, he could have gotten 5-8 yards minimum.

Should i decrease his force pass to minimum? The biggest himdrance to good ai right now is the cpu qb ai. It was PERFECT in madden 16. Playing against scramblers i used to use the shadow tactic against kaep newton wilson....

Hopefully they can patch this as well as the zone coverage


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[extremeskins04]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Ive been playing some games against cam newton and see how he does....

I edited his traits to scramble, paranoid ideal force passes, and throwaway yes

The good is i see less statue sacks a bit...but when he does break the pocket, 9 times out of 10 he starts scrambling but at the LOS he makes a throw against his body usually incomplete. Had he continued his run, he could have gotten 5-8 yards minimum.

Should i decrease his force pass to minimum? The biggest himdrance to good ai right now is the cpu qb ai. It was PERFECT in madden 16. Playing against scramblers i used to use the shadow tactic against kaep newton wilson....

Hopefully they can patch this as well as the zone coverage


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Yea, change Force Passes to Conservative and see if it helps.

[phillyfan23]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Yea, change Force Passes to Conservative and see if it helps.

They dont force throws anymore but their method of scrambling is so idiotic....even if there is 20 yrds open field to run, they run a straight line headed towards the sideline and when they come near it, the qb then turns up. Turning a 15 yrd potential run into a 2 yrd gain or a sack.

Forget about busting one up the middle thru the pocket ( which occured often with cpu qb scramblers in madden 16).

I dont think anything we do can really fix the problem....and to me, as far as offline gaming is concerned, its a gamekiller. This is what makes wilson and rodgers great players....so if the game cant recreate that, its a damn shame. Especially disheartening since it was already PERFECT in madden 16, as i tested the cpu qbs intensively.

All we can hope is a patch....but im not expecting it. Madden 17 qb ai was when it went backwards, and madden 18 continues it.


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[mooch49]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

If you watch this clip towards the end of it, you'll notice that Russell Wilson makes a smart decision.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5kFs_D39OGkTmZWWTZ4R19hakU/view?usp=drivesdk

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[phillyfan23]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

If you watch this clip towards the end of it, you'll notice that Russell Wilson makes a smart decision.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5kFs_D39OGkTmZWWTZ4R19hakU/view?usp=drivesdk

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I do not think that was a good decision, he coulda had a touchdown. Thats another thing the ai qb does....they run a straight line towards the sidelines and sometimes throws it away a half yard from the LOS even if they could run 3-6 yards ahead. Makes no sense....


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[extremeskins04]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Not having luck here fellas. I'm about to throw my controller against the wall.

EA. FIX THIS.

FIX IT. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason for this kind of gameplay from the CPU. It's ludicrous in fact.

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[Rocket32]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Hope they fix it for those playing on All Pro but on All Madden I'm really not seeing a problem with the QB play. Maybe it would be nice if the CPU QB scrambled more but I'm seeing plenty of movement in the pocket. Not really seeing the statue QB issue on All Madden. Playing on default All Madden Sim.


It's probably worth noting I haven't played in CFM yet so this is just what I'm seeing in Play Now. I haven't seen anyone say this is an issue exclusive to CFM gameplay though so I figured I'd post this anyway. I'll try playing in CFM later.